[Rumor] RX480 AIB Card Leaked and Tested!

[Eroticus]

That's older Doom, for starters.
Firestrike leaks are EXACTLY the same, point for point, as in wccft "leaks".

In short: fake.

Doom 4 = Doom Reboot
Hitman 6 = Hitman Reboot

They just found 2 box arts from Google and made it in Windows Paint.

Chinese Marketing, What did you expected ... ?


+RX 480 Extreme 1.1 3D Mark Benchmark
http://www.3dmark.com//fs/8796301#

Same score..

 

[arroyo]

I have not seen such big hype around graphics card for a long time.
Pascal architecture was a big surprise, because no one expected to be really that good.
And now AMD is expected to be even better.

God, please don't let me down like you did in last AMD few GPU generations.
I want to buy something extraordinary like HD4850 and HD5850 was.

 

[Assimilator]

Do you know what's going to be even better than the RX 480 launch? Looking back at this thread afterwards. I can't wait.

 

[Eroticus]

Google Translate-
各种的偷跑成绩曝光，我们选取了其中一个：搭配Core i7-4770，在3DMark 11中得到了P14461分（疑似），比GTX 970高出了大约2500分，逼近GTX980,。跑分如此实测游戏究竟如何呢？请留意后续的6月29日的详细首测，敬请期待~


Various sneak exposure results , we selected one : with Core i7-4770, get P14461 in 3DMark 11 points in the ( suspected ) , higher than the GTX 970 is about 2500 points, approximation GTX980 ,. Found run sub so how does the game ? Please note the following detailed first test of June 29 , so stay tuned ~

Source - http://diy.pconline.com.cn/805/8053421.html

 

[eidairaman1]

I think that's the same thing at the end of the day because it still ends in thread derailing...But w/e, ill agree to disagree in this case since I view it differently.

Well its all they are releasing first, so yea some people are hyped for that card because its cheap. For all we know it may end up being a steaming pile of... But anyway, its the first time in awhile that a cheap card comes out first (And is an actual new card) so I guess people are over hyping it for themselves.

Well maybe they could, problem is we can only speculate what they are thinking. In my opinion, they are just doing it this way to gain market share with the mid range crowd and lower to get some market share without competition. I am in the same boat because I don't feel like spending money on anything currently (Though I am waiting for a voltage unlocked classified 1080...I want 2200mhz)

Well, if people over hype it with rumor is their own fault if it does not live up to the hype. That's why I don't believe stuff until NDA lifts or someone shows significant proof more than a quick "Here is where it sits" chart.

Yea along with like 20 other people, but its a problem when you have an entire thread where people are fighting addressing a blank entity.

I agree, lets wait till parts are in hand for review, (Even though im keeping my 290 VaporX for Zen and Watercooling)

 

[medi01]

Sapphire Italy FB page is confirmed to be SI's after all (that "1500 OC" thing):

at least according to some random dude on an internet forum
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29665445&postcount=6397

Pascal architecture was a big surprise, because no one expected to be really that good.

Nobody expected next 600$ card to be 25% faster than previous gen card of the same price tier, wah?

Neither AMD nor nVidia card perf is surprising (given the 1.5 node jump). The special thing about 480 is... it's price. I'd expect good 50-80$ higher MSRP .

But probably exactly that was your point, mia culpa...



PS
Interesting, that AMD flops now are (expected to be ) close nVidia flops (in "effectiveness at games") as far as performance goes (TDP figures in the table are misleading):

 

[medi01]

Vega in Oct this year?

PS
Update on RAM chips in 480, confirmed to be the same as in 1070:

RAM CHIPS
Samsung k4g80325fb-hc25

GTX 1070

RX 480

The 1070 achieved a +250MHz OC on their 256bit GDDR5 memory system.

The 480 should perform similarly.

 

[arbiter]

Nobody expected next 600$ card to be 25% faster than previous gen card of the same price tier, wah?

Its about 60-70% faster SINCE the card replaces the gtx980.

 

[medi01]

Its about 60-70% faster SINCE the card replaces.

Nonsense.
Price AND ONLY THE PRICE (definitely not silly naming scheme) determines which tier it is.
And at 600-700$ price it is 980Ti tier. THAT is what it replaces.
And perf difference is in 20-25% ballpark stock for stock (less than that OC vs OC)

 

[Tatty_Two]

Nonsense.
Price AND ONLY THE PRICE (definitely not silly naming scheme) determines which tier it is.
And at 600-700$ price it is 980Ti tier. THAT is what it replaces.
And perf difference is in 20-25% ballpark stock for stock (less than that OC vs OC)

I don't disagree with what you are saying as pricing is always a major factor, however the structure of the tiers is also a factor and always has been, simply because globally different countries/continents have different pricing because of taxes etc so some "could" argue that unless the 1080 is going to be the top of the tree it will not replace the 980Ti.

 

[the54thvoid]

Nonsense.
Price AND ONLY THE PRICE (definitely not silly naming scheme) determines which tier it is.
And at 600-700$ price it is 980Ti tier. THAT is what it replaces.
And perf difference is in 20-25% ballpark stock for stock (less than that OC vs OC)

1080 is undoubtedly Nvidia top tier at the moment but it doesn't replace the 980ti. In the same way 980 didn't replace the 780ti.
That Nvidia have mastered profit making doesn't mean the architecture underlying is irrelevant to the tier of performance. The G'xn'04 denotes exactly what it is. So a generational 04 replaces the previous 04. Likewise, when the mother ship lands to take on Vega, the true successor to the '00’ will be (likely) a '00' or '02'.
I'd expect that chip to be only 25-40% faster than a 980ti.
Great thing with Vega is we have no idea what it is. Is it rehashed Fiji? Or more. I'm not interested in Polaris but Vega could be very good. But then again, do could Big Pascal.
Bring on the big fight.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Nonsense.
Price AND ONLY THE PRICE (definitely not silly naming scheme) determines which tier it is.
And at 600-700$ price it is 980Ti tier. THAT is what it replaces.
And perf difference is in 20-25% ballpark stock for stock (less than that OC vs OC)

No, YOU speak nonsense. As @the54thvoid says, one simply has to look at what chip is being used. Nvidia has made its product stack scheme available and always have stated what replaces what.

The 1080 is the top perfirmer and beats 980Ti. So what? It's a new generation. It's way more expensive than the 980 it replaces. So what? That is simply Nvidia showing their contempt for the lack of competition currently.

I used an example last week of BMW 3-series one year, let's say, getting a more powerful engine than the M3 from the previous year. It doesn't make it the M3 replacement. It simply makes it faster than the previous M3.

 

[Dethroy]

Can we all just agree that there are two different ways of looking at it... from the price point of view and from the architectural view. Depending on the view the 1080 could either be categorized as a midrange card architecture-wise or as a high-end card $-wise. Things are not quite so simple always as black and white.

 

[medi01]

from the price point of view and from the architectural view.
Depending on the view the 1080 could either be categorized as a midrange card architecture-wise or as a high-end card $-wise.

No, not really.
There is reasonable point of view: dudes have the same budget for GPUs, that's how one GPU replaces other GPU.

And there is BS argument about "architecture" even though in reality people just talk about numbering scheme, which is silly, to say the least. Talking about "architecture", number of transistors in 980Ti and 1080 is roughly the same.

Well, apparently: NUMBERING SCHEME DOES NOT MATTER. Unlike price and performance.

Oh, and 60-70%+ increased performance in the same tier is what 480 does. It is priced in 280/380 tier (heck, it's even cheaper). Oh, and there is no competition in that tier at the moment too.

Oh, and let me cite myself, for people seem to have forgotten what they are arguing about:

Nobody expected next 600$ card to be 25% faster than previous gen card of the same price tier, wah?

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[Valdas]

Nonsense.
Price AND ONLY THE PRICE (definitely not silly naming scheme) determines which tier it is.
And at 600-700$ price it is 980Ti tier. THAT is what it replaces.
And perf difference is in 20-25% ballpark stock for stock (less than that OC vs OC)

Price is only one point of comparison. For you it's +25% for the same price. For me it's +60% for a additional $50-100.
You'll complain that the gains are not impressive, I'll complain that the price is not impressive.
Yet when 1080 Ti will be released, it'll be above 1080 in both price and performance, won't it?

 

[the54thvoid]

No, not really.
There is reasonable point of view: dudes have the same budget for GPUs, that's how one GPU replaces other GPU.

And there is BS argument about "architecture" even though in reality people just talk about numbering scheme, which is silly, to say the least. Talking about "architecture", number of transistors in 980Ti and 1080 is roughly the same.

Well, apparently: NUMBERING SCHEME DOES NOT MATTER. Unlike price and performance.

Oh, and 60-70%+ increased performance in the same tier is what 480 does. It is priced in 280/380 tier (heck, it's even cheaper). Oh, and there is no competition in that tier at the moment too.

Oh, and let me cite myself, for people seem to have forgotten what they are arguing about:
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Okay. Titan X is still £800 and GTX1080 is around £200 cheaper, model depending. So by your argument, the GTX1080 which is faster is lower tier.

Remove your blinkers.

 

[Dethroy]

No, not really.
There is reasonable point of view: dudes have the same budget for GPUs, that's how one GPU replaces other GPU.

People will not always spend the same amount of money on a new GPU. Sometimes I may buy a midrange GPU, sometimes a high-end GPU or this time I may even buy a RX 480 (which I consider entry level to midrange). It all depends on the needs I do have at the time of purchase, what funds are available and - most importanty - which I think is the best choice regarding performance/$, feature set, noise level/cooling solution, maybe even size. I am always looking for the sweet spot. I always make sure that my money is rather well spent. Some people may always buy the top dog - and this is fine as well. Different people have different needs.

And there is BS argument about "architecture" even though in reality people just talk about numbering scheme, which is silly, to say the least. Talking about "architecture", number of transistors in 980Ti and 1080 is roughly the same.

The number of transistors of 1080 and 980Ti are roughly the same since it is a new archtitecture that is built opon a new process node. I'm pretty sure the architecture is different.

 

[rtwjunkie]

The number of transistors of 1080 and 980Ti are roughly the same since it is a new archtitecture that is built opon a new process node. I'm pretty sure the architecture is different.

Exactly! New architecture has always has improvements in number of transistors, etc. If something is not going to be better than the previous generation model of one higher tier, as is frewuently done, then new card R&D is pointless, and we could stay with the same cards forever.

It's not "naming scheme" games. Gp104 chip is used in 1080. Nvudia will happily tell you it's not their top chip, and it replaces Gm204.

Medi01 is just upset it's not affordable to him. Guess what? It's not affordable to me either. That doesn't make it something it's not. SMFH...

Anyway, this is supposed to be about RX480, isn't it?

 

[64K]

Take a look at precedent if you want to understand Nvidia and their product stack intentions. The last few generations they have gotten away with pricing their upper midrange GPU x80 for what they used to price their high end GPU but that price doesn't determine their stack. There are more differences between a midrange GPU and a high end GPU than just number of shaders or transistor count. The midrange GPUs have a 256 bit bus and the high end have a 384 bit bus. The high end are in a different class altogether. There will most likely be a Titan and a 1080 Ti that will come along eventually and you will see the distinction in performance between the midrange and high end tiers.

 

[medi01]

Okay. Titan X is still £800 and GTX1080 is around £200 cheaper, model depending. So by your argument, the GTX1080 which is faster is lower tier.

Good job picking up bizzarred priced item, it sure validates your point.
Titan Z has even "cooler" pricing, comparing to it should look even more "convincing".

Medi01 is just upset it's not affordable to him.

I can afford paying 1k € for shit once a month, thanks for ad hominem, I like being reminded that I'm rather well paid.

You missed the point that it's 199$ priced 480 that gives 60-70%+ performance over last gen 199$ card. 1080 is 600-700$ card that is 20-30% faster than last gen 650$ card. Yeah, it ends with "80" and there is no "Ti", I know.
Still sad.
Sorry about that.

he midrange GPUs have a 256 bit bus and the high end have a 384 bit bus.

390x, cough.

The number of transistors of 1080 and 980Ti are roughly the same since it is a new archtitecture.

That's one logical statement, dude.


And, LAST, BUT NOT LEAST: this is a thread about RX 480. You were responding to:

Nobody expected next 600$ card to be 25% faster than previous gen card of the same price tier, wah?
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You expressed your point clear enough, now get over it.


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Back on topic, hype mode off, dafuq that "long way" means and dafuq they celebrate:

Something that is or is not 480 playing Overwatch at 4k at max settings.

 

[Dethroy]

That's one logical statement, dude.

Next time you edit a quote to make it seem like your statement has any merit, make sure to hide it better. Done arguing with you. Back to the topic.

Original statement:

The number of transistors of 1080 and 980Ti are roughly the same since it is a new archtitecture that is built opon a new process node.

Your edited quote:

The number of transistors of 1080 and 980Ti are roughly the same since it is a new archtitecture.

 

[GhostRyder]

No, not really.
There is reasonable point of view: dudes have the same budget for GPUs, that's how one GPU replaces other GPU.

And there is BS argument about "architecture" even though in reality people just talk about numbering scheme, which is silly, to say the least. Talking about "architecture", number of transistors in 980Ti and 1080 is roughly the same.

Well, apparently: NUMBERING SCHEME DOES NOT MATTER. Unlike price and performance.

Oh, and 60-70%+ increased performance in the same tier is what 480 does. It is priced in 280/380 tier (heck, it's even cheaper). Oh, and there is no competition in that tier at the moment too.

Oh, and let me cite myself, for people seem to have forgotten what they are arguing about:
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No, your not getting the point with how Nvidia (And AMD do something similar) do their GPU's. Just because its better than the previous generations top tier does not automatically make it the max card. They priced it as such because it is their current highest card but it is still not the peak card of pascal. Hence why they still produce the GTX 980ti and Titan X but not the GTX 970 and 980. In about 6 months (Maybe 8) there will be a GTX 1080ti and possibly before that a GTX Titan Something that will have their peak chip on it (Or in this generations case, close to peak). Nvidia has already made the GTX X80 (Or XX80) nomenclature no longer mean their peak chip anymore, the XX80ti and Titan designate that. Sure its priced high and like its the supreme chip, but thats because of supply and demand mixed in with whats available. Nothing comes very close to it so of course they are going to price it high.

Price and performance do mean something, but I guarantee you in that time frame I listed above the GTX 1080 will move down to ~$500 and then a GTX 1080ti will take its place at around $650-$750 then we will not see anything higher (Save Titan) for another year or so.

Different subject, I stated earlier that I believe there will be X designated AMD GPU's with the full unlocked die's of the respected chip categories. Otherwise, to me it seems like they do not have room for many other chips this generation except for maybe 2 more high end.

 

[gasolina]

the cards are in my hands now .....

 

[P4-630]

the cards are in my hands now .....

Your creditcards, ok, ready to buy?

 

[medi01]

More teasing from Raja (they, somehow, "delivered" Vega):

Next time you edit a quote to make it seem like your statement has any merit, make sure to hide it better. Done arguing with you. Back to the topic.

Original statement:
Your edited quote:

That, somehow, should make more sense.
I see.
Nope, it doesn't, sorry.
"Same number of transistors shows it is new architecture (on any process)" is mind boggling nonsense.

Price and performance do mean something, but I guarantee you in that time frame I listed above the GTX 1080 will move down to ~$500 and then a GTX 1080ti will take its place at around $650-$750 then we will not see anything higher (Save Titan) for another year or so.

Possibly. How is that even relevant in this thread, dude?
You get next gen chips from various tiers from both nVidia and AMD.
AMDs costs less, does 60-70% more. nVidia's costs MORE (in EU much more) delivers 25% more.
That was the original quote people started to twist and spin around to make Huang look better.

Pricing is a reflection of what the market will pay.

Oh. That's how it works?
Where did Huang see reflection of 1080 price being at 789€ and 1070's being 499€ in Germany? Was it somewhere between evergreen "in stock" letters on most major online retailers only 2 weeks after cards were released?