Rumour that MX500 now has QLC variants?

[lemonadesoda]

IDK I've never had an ssd die on me, even the kingston I bought in 2013. Afaik its still working ( I sold the system it was in not long ago) yet when it comes to hard drives, I've had many fail, especially the shingled ones. I guess its all a crapshoot. You can get lucky, or not so much, either ssd or hdd.

I've run RAID 1 on my home server/NAS the last 20 years. Every single HDD failure (not total failure, but RAID controller showing errors) has been rebuilt without data loss.

The current SSD issues being discussed in this thread: for critical data (today) I might be more comfortable with a HDD RAID 1, than an SSD RAID 1.

I've got SSDs running that have been in the PCs for years. But I did suffer one catastrophic SSD loss 10 years ago, that made me very cautious. Unlike a HDD fail, where (typically) it degrades but most of the data is still recoverable, my SSD failure was catastrophic and everything went boom.

My main PC is running just a SSD. I am evaluating whether to drop in a second HDD to start mirroring my critical data partition.

 

[chrcoluk]

Yeah thats the issue with SSD failure, the most common type reported is just a totally dead drive with all data gone, when manufacturers tell us the proper fail state should be read only access.

It does feel like SSDs have regressed in recent times, I think due to pushing dramless and QLC tech, there is always that drive to find profit margins somewhere. I expect if QLC ever gets to where TLC is now with advancements they would be then pushing a newer higher density out to replace it.

Personally I have not had an important SSD die on me, I have two dead kingstons, one I am not sure ever worked, the other one was deffo working at some point but now dead. No detection etc. Both not used for anything important.

All my samsungs luckily still work including my two oldest 830s, although the 830s are way slower than new, they have some kind of performance degradation, a secure erase didnt recover it either.

MX500's did hit problems, but not catastrophic failure. They were relegated to unimportant roles by that time, as I already had alarm bells with the accelerated erase cycles (mine are the dodgy early rapid cycle variants). In fact the second MX500 was never really actually used, it was my OS drive on my PC temporarily for a few weeks, and then only ever was used for testing, it was the one I offered up to wizzard on here to investigate the rapid erase cycles problem. The one that was in my laptop, I was using for a while to record clips on xbox series S as the media drive before it started misbehaving. Now using an old 830 for it.

The second kingston that failed was used as a temporary OS drive before using the MX500, and then moved over to media drive duty on my xbox where it started failing (reported full when only about 10% used), and thats when the mx500 took over.

The kingston doesnt report full in windows, but if I write data to it and try to read it back windows spits out an error immediately.

 

[dream3]

guys should i get a samsung 870 qvo or a mx500 with qlc? those are my only options as far as 4tb new drives

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

guys should i get a samsung 870 qvo or a mx500 with qlc? those are my only options as far as 4tb new drives

MX500s are TLC, the QLC drives were phony clones from aliexpress.

Get the MX500.

 

[GabrielLP14]

guys should i get a samsung 870 qvo or a mx500 with qlc? those are my only options as far as 4tb new drives

The MX500 has no QLC variants so far

 

[dream3]

The MX500 has no QLC variants so far

hmm i dont understand, isnt this the whole point of the thread? aliexpress mx500 is QLC like the table in OP shows?

 

[ThrashZone]

hmm i dont understand, isnt this the whole point of the thread? aliexpress mx500 is QLC like the table in OP shows?

Hi,
Think the point is stop shopping on aliexpress
Which by the way there's nothing express about it except clone crap otherwise turtle is best to describe shipping.

 

[GabrielLP14]

hmm i dont understand, isnt this the whole point of the thread? aliexpress mx500 is QLC like the table in OP shows?

apparently there aren't.

 

[Vario]

Yeah thats the issue with SSD failure, the most common type reported is just a totally dead drive with all data gone, when manufacturers tell us the proper fail state should be read only access.

It does feel like SSDs have regressed in recent times, I think due to pushing dramless and QLC tech, there is always that drive to find profit margins somewhere. I expect if QLC ever gets to where TLC is now with advancements they would be then pushing a newer higher density out to replace it.

Personally I have not had an important SSD die on me, I have two dead kingstons, one I am not sure ever worked, the other one was deffo working at some point but now dead. No detection etc. Both not used for anything important.

All my samsungs luckily still work including my two oldest 830s, although the 830s are way slower than new, they have some kind of performance degradation, a secure erase didnt recover it either.

MX500's did hit problems, but not catastrophic failure. They were relegated to unimportant roles by that time, as I already had alarm bells with the accelerated erase cycles (mine are the dodgy early rapid cycle variants). In fact the second MX500 was never really actually used, it was my OS drive on my PC temporarily for a few weeks, and then only ever was used for testing, it was the one I offered up to wizzard on here to investigate the rapid erase cycles problem. The one that was in my laptop, I was using for a while to record clips on xbox series S as the media drive before it started misbehaving. Now using an old 830 for it.

The second kingston that failed was used as a temporary OS drive before using the MX500, and then moved over to media drive duty on my xbox where it started failing (reported full when only about 10% used), and thats when the mx500 took over.

The kingston doesnt report full in windows, but if I write data to it and try to read it back windows spits out an error immediately.

While my main machine is all solid state drives, I backup all my important data with Acronis imaging to a rotating collection of various mechanical HDDs on a monthly basis which gets stored in an antistatic bag.

 

[dream3]

Hi,
Think the point is stop shopping on aliexpress
Which by the way there's nothing express about it except clone crap otherwise turtle is best to describe shipping.

apparently there is a western digital official store there. I asked the seller and he said 100% original and TLC chip for mx500.

 

[Selaya]

wat
mx500 is made by micron, not wd
????