RX 9070 availability

[AusWolf]

At Overclockers UK:

 

[LabRat 891]

At Overclockers UK:
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Relation to/for US, Canada, North America restocking?

 

[Bomby569]

Relation to/for US, Canada, North America restocking?

why are you naming the same country twice?

 

[Jtuck9]

Letting things run out of your control and ownership, and relying on an external service instead is ALWAYS a bad idea.

Eh, I'll let someone else worry about it...

At Overclockers UK:
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Was there a delay?! They mentioned the week commencing the 10th in their newsletter update.

 

[Bomby569]

Letting things run out of your control and ownership, and relying on an external service instead is ALWAYS a bad idea.

you don't own any of your games, not even the GOG ones, and hardware... well we all know how that is going.

 

[LabRat 891]

why are you naming the same country twice?

Keyword farming(?) 'Guess I was hoping some 'New Member' would pop-in and answer

you don't own any of your games, not even the GOG ones, and hardware... well we all know how that is going.

Well then. I'd say @ that point... you own what you can keep.

Within tangible means,
any data on an airgapped PC or other electronic device, in one's physical possession and personal dominion, is "owned". Whether or not law dictates or defines otherwise.

 

[Chomiq]

why are you naming the same country twice?

North America is not a country.

 

[SirKeldon]

At Overclockers UK:
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That's good news. Here in Spain, no new stock has been announced yet. Let's see how the prices look in this second wave, my sad prediction is it’ll follow the same trend we saw hours after launch, with prices going from €100 to €400 over MSRP. Right now, the best deals I can find on my "usual sites" are for the 9070's, Sapphire PURE or PowerColor Hellhound for €749, which is already €110 above the suggested price, however, none of those is their "basic" model, so not that bad I guess.

Demand is high and is going to increase, as some of you mentioned, and not just from existing customers but also new ones. What do you guys think, how long will it take for things to settle or for these prices to drop?

 

[LabRat 891]

North America is not a country.

No. It is not.

For the scope of this discussion (and beyond), it's an economic region; a market.

I don't believe MX gets the same releases and supply as US and CAN, but they still are part of the North American region, AFAIK.
(110-127V 60Hz mains. NTSC 60hz. Etc. too)

 

[Bomby569]

North America is not a country.

not sure if you can't read or take a joke.

 

[Jtuck9]

Well then. I'd say @ that point... you own what you can keep.

Within tangible means,
any data on an airgapped PC or other electronic device, in one's physical possession and personal dominion, is "owned". Whether or not law dictates or defines otherwise.

Time to dust off the ol' copy of "Free Software, Free Society"

 

[Chomiq]

not sure if you can't read or take a joke.

Neither.

 

[Epaminombas]

It's a shame that AMD doesn't have the resources to manufacture chips.

Intel and Nvidia buy all the production machines and there's not much left for AMD.

 

[eidairaman1]

Paraguayan brick and mortar stores seem to have stock (and I don't know how, at least their websites mention "in stock" or "available") on both RX 9000 and RTX 5000 cards, but pricing on all of them are ludicrous.

9070 - USD 755 to 815
9070XT - USD 910 to 990

In comparison:
5070 - USD 800 to 900
5070Ti - USD 1090 to 1275
5080 - USD 1500 to 1850
5090 - USD 3900 to 3945

Pretty Simple there you get the 9070/XT.

 

[wNotyarD]

Pretty Simple there you get the 9070/XT.

Oh no, I'll get nothing. My watercooled 7900XTX will stay with me for at least 4 more years.
That doesn't stop me from looking where the market stands, though.

 

[eidairaman1]

Oh no, I'll get nothing. My watercooled 7900XTX will stay with me for at least 4 more years.
That doesn't stop me from looking where the market stands, though.

Thats totally understandable, just looking from outide in the choice is pretty clear. I will in 6 months.

 

[AusWolf]

Was there a delay?! They mentioned the week commencing the 10th in their newsletter update.

What delay? Launch day stock is gone, now they're awaiting the next shipment.

you don't own any of your games, not even the GOG ones, and hardware... well we all know how that is going.

You do own game installers that you downloaded from GOG. With Steam, you have an agreement to be able to play your game for life. If they go bust (which they won't in the foreseeable, but just for an example), I'd expect them to honour that agreement and transfer my library to another provider. I'm not saying they will, but unfortunately, that's the closest I can get to actually owning my games these days.

It's a shame that AMD doesn't have the resources to manufacture chips.

Intel and Nvidia buy all the production machines and there's not much left for AMD.

There were 9 times as many 9070 and 9070 XT cards at Microcenter USA on launch day as 5070s.

 

[Bomby569]

You do own game installers that you downloaded from GOG. With Steam, you have an agreement to be able to play your game for life. If they go bust (which they won't in the foreseeable, but just for an example), I'd expect them to honour that agreement and transfer my library to another provider. I'm not saying they will, but unfortunately, that's the closest I can get to actually owning my games these days.

if you don't have the installer, you can't play the game you bought if it's pull down, so you don't really own the game. Steam is just a company, tomorrow Gabe can die and it all changes, his sons or whoever can sell the company to EA.

 

[AusWolf]

if you don't have the installer, you can't play the game you bought if it's pull down, so you don't really own the game. Steam is just a company, tomorrow Gabe can die and it all changes, his sons or whoever can sell the company to EA.

In that case, do you expect millions of game libraries with hundreds of games in each to be just lost forever instead of being transferred over to EA?

 

[PixelButts]

you don't own any of your games, not even the GOG ones, and hardware... well we all know how that is going.

I'm a game dev, this is a really funny comment until I remember its tragically true and depressing. I already see the derail so I wont add to it too much. I push for preservation of things and it immediately gets stopped due to a laundry list of reasons (copyright, license terms, platform owners, DRM itself, cost and lawyers, etc), if you want to do it the formal proper way at least it's just way too hard. It'd be nice if it wasn't such a problem but hey, at least sailing the high seas is a solution, even if its not the best one. I had fun discussions at work about this stuff and ultimately even as the devs we're still at the mercy of whoever is above us/working with us even if we made it ourselves.

I think they made the design in render, but cancelled it before manufacturing to save costs. I agree, it's a shame. I've got a reference 6750 XT and 7600, they're awesome (albeit a bit hot).

I think I heard actually making the cards is a little out of AMD's specialty and was putting strain on them. Don't get me wrong its not an insult, its just a small but focused company. AMD designs the chips, tsmc makes the chips, and gigabyte or whoever adds a pcb, heatsink and some fans. Everybody has their place. AMD just designs the chips and that helps them be lean and profitable.

But idk... they certainly look nice anyway. I think I prefer that over the nvidia design, not that I dislike the nvidia design. Also those are some sexy 8 pins. They give off a nice relaxing aura, quite different than the 12 pin which gives off an aura of unease and anxiety.

"Artist render" aka they were probably working on it but decided to dump it in favor of AIB's.

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More XTs in stock, starting at €839.

Thanks for clarifying. It's unfortunate, but not surprising. Maybe a higher end 9000 series may get one, but if they're not gonna play at the high end then I guess it's gone for good. I mostly shoot for it due to the size of the card itself. The size difference on the MBA 7900 XTX vs the other models is insane. It's tiny, relatively speaking and the same tends to hold true.

 

[LabRat 891]

In that case, do you expect millions of game libraries with hundreds of games in each to be just lost forever instead of being transferred over to EA?

Yes.
Esp. in the case of EA, they may-well decide to 'eat the costs' of a Class Action, over their projected losses from competing with their own legacy and EoL products.

There were 9 times as many 9070 and 9070 XT cards at Microcenter USA on launch day as 5070s.

I'm seriously curious what % of 9070(XT)s sold, are actually in end-used equipment, and how many are 'floating around' in scalpers' inventory.

 

[AusWolf]

Yes.
Esp. in the case of EA, they may-well decide to 'eat the costs' of a Class Action, over their projected losses from competing with their own legacy and EoL products.

That would be the class-action of the ages!

I'm seriously curious what % of 9070(XT)s sold, are actually in end-used equipment, and how many are 'floating around' in scalpers' inventory.

Good question, but judging by the fact that UK stores limited purchases to 1 per customer, I'd say, chances are good.

 

[SirKeldon]

I'm seriously curious what % of 9070(XT)s sold, are actually in end-used equipment, and how many are 'floating around' in scalpers' inventory.

I just did a quick search now, out of curiosity, on the most used platform at Spain for 2nd-hand stuff, I counted 31 9070s at sale, mostly XT's, from 750 to 1100 EUR. Disgusting

 

[Jtuck9]

What delay? Launch day stock is gone, now they're awaiting the next shipment.

A delay on the shipment. I've read that apparently certain stock arrived yesterday.

 

[Bomby569]

In that case, do you expect millions of game libraries with hundreds of games in each to be just lost forever instead of being transferred over to EA?

idk what would happen, but it sure as hell wouldn't be as consumer friendly.