Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[NdMk2o1o]

Ryzen 1200 arrived, the biggest star are the Crucial Ballistix Sport modules, humble 2400MHz, stable at 3200 (with higher timmings).
Testing if 3900 @ 1.4v is stable, so far it is.

What are the temps like on that stock cooler at 3.9 1.4v?

 

[GoldenX]

What are the temps like on that stock cooler at 3.9 1.4v?

65 ºC under normal full loads, 80 with IBT.

 

[GoldenX]

The "efficiency hole" in Ryzen is huge, I need 1,4v for 3900-3950MHz, but just 1,25v for 3800.

 

[eidairaman1]

The "efficiency hole" in Ryzen is huge, I need 1,4v for 3900-3950MHz, but just 1,25v for 3800.

Amd parts have always been fine running 1.3-1.6 volts, i noticed that across all of AMDs product stack.

I wonder how well a scythe ashura would handle a 1800X or Ryzen+ or the 1950X...

 

[_JP_]

1300X boots, very pleased with the motherboard, being budget-level, has surprised me with the layout and the features.
Holidays in the way, no pics or extensive testing, but I'll get to that soon

EDIT: I stubbornly learned that the screws on the stock cooler don't really have much travel to reach the backplate's holes, which were too low. You DO have to mount it on the box outside.

 

[Johan45]

After many changes, I've finally settled on my final build for the HTPC. Pulled out the ASUS and went MSI.

 

[GoldenX]

White motherboards look so nice.

 

[eidairaman1]

White motherboards look so nice.

I miss when there were Green, Red, Blue PCBs, most are now all black or with red accents or RGB...

 

[xorbe]

The "efficiency hole" in Ryzen is huge, I need 1,4v for 3900-3950MHz, but just 1,25v for 3800.

This is called "hitting the wall". Mine does 3.9 @ 1.18v, but 4.0 needs more than 1.3v (I don't know how much more because my cheap board smacks the chip down to 1550 after 1.3v+)

 

[_JP_]

I guess the lack of aesthetics was the aesthetic itself back then...
Speaking of which, since retro is such a crowd pleaser these days, ASUS could go for a yellow PCB, gold heatsink, Gigabyte go full RGB, plastic-wise, on light blue PCB, ASRock full green, à lá 939 era, when Athlon reigned supreme.

 

[Johan45]

I guess the lack of aesthetics was the aesthetic itself back then...
Speaking of which, since retro is such a crowd pleaser these days, ASUS could go for a yellow PCB, gold heatsink, Gigabyte go full RGB, plastic-wise, on light blue PCB, ASRock full green, à lá 939 era, when Athlon reigned supreme.

Like the old DFI LP NF4 looked good in the dark

 

[eidairaman1]

Like the old DFI LP NF4 looked good in the dark

NF2 Ultra-B too lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

The "efficiency hole" in Ryzen is huge, I need 1,4v for 3900-3950MHz, but just 1,25v for 3800.

How are you gauging voltage? And did you get it to 4ghz?

 

[GoldenX]

How are you gauging voltage? And did you get it to 4ghz?

Motherboard sensor, or the MSI software, CPU-Z is not very reliable.
Couldn't reach 4GHz at 1,4v, and I don't want to go higher on a cheap motherboard and a wraith stealth.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Motherboard sensor, or the MSI software, CPU-Z is not very reliable.
Couldn't reach 4GHz at 1,4v, and I don't want to go higher on a cheap motherboard and a wraith stealth.

Ok, so not the bios then. I've learned that the voltages the bios report are not always one par with the actual voltages used, thus the question. If you have a better cooler, I would say you'd be ok with 1.42 or 1.43 volts. However, 3.9ghz is a damn good OC for that CPU. Even if you don't want to push 4ghz, a better cooler would be a good idea for OCing. Your stats say that you're in Argentina. Are parts expensive down there?

 

[eidairaman1]

Motherboard sensor, or the MSI software, CPU-Z is not very reliable.
Couldn't reach 4GHz at 1,4v, and I don't want to go higher on a cheap motherboard and a wraith stealth.

Utilize openhardware monitor

 

[lexluthermiester]

Utilize openhardware monitor

That's still in beta. How stable is it?

 

[eidairaman1]

That's still in beta. How stable is it?

Never crashed or locked up on me and I had Ryzen Blender running with CPUz open and that tool open, neat factor is it has an overlay you can change vital info such as temps or clocks, idk if it can detect fps.

That tool is how i figured out my cpu voltage creeps up from the hard set I have of 1.467 or was it 1.476 and increases to 1.5024 under heavy load, under normal its either at minimum or somewhere in between

 

[GoldenX]

Ok, so not the bios then. I've learned that the voltages the bios report are not always one par with the actual voltages used, thus the question. If you have a better cooler, I would say you'd be ok with 1.42 or 1.43 volts. However, 3.9ghz is a damn good OC for that CPU. Even if you don't want to push 4ghz, a better cooler would be a good idea for OCing. Your stats say that you're in Argentina. Are parts expensive down there?

VERY expensive, and those free AM4 brackets from Cooler Master don't get here, had to sold my 212+ because of that. If I manage to get a better cooler, I'll aim for 4GHz, since AFAIK according to AMD, up to 1,45v is safe with an increased but tolerable degradation. Considering that with 1,25v I can do 3,8GHz at 55º, I'm pretty happy with that at the moment.

Had to manually set the SoC voltage to 1v, the motherboard wants 1,15v for 3200MHz, and it's not necessary.

I'll try open hardware monitor, I remember using it with my Phenom II 980.

ED: openhardwaremonitor doesn't detect my motherboard sensors. Only CPU usage.

 

[eidairaman1]

VERY expensive, and those free AM4 brackets from Cooler Master don't get here, had to sold my 212+ because of that. If I manage to get a better cooler, I'll aim for 4GHz, since AFAIK according to AMD, up to 1,45v is safe with an increased but tolerable degradation. Considering that with 1,25v I can do 3,8GHz at 55º, I'm pretty happy with that at the moment.

Had to manually set the SoC voltage to 1v, the motherboard wants 1,15v for 3200MHz, and it's not necessary.

I'll try open hardware monitor, I remember using it with my Phenom II 980.

ED: openhardwaremonitor doesn't detect my motherboard sensors. Only CPU usage.

Okay it must have not been updated recently cpu-z has their own and it is just called hardware monitor

 

[lexluthermiester]

Never crashed or locked up on me and I had Ryzen Blender running with CPUz open and that tool open, neat factor is it has an overlay you can change vital info such as temps or clocks, idk if it can detect fps. That tool is how i figured out my cpu voltage creeps up from the hard set I have of 1.467 or was it 1.476 and increases to 1.5024

Cool, giving it a try.

 

[Johan45]

I use HWinfo64, seems pretty acurate to me

 

[lexluthermiester]

I use HWinfo64, seems pretty accurate to me

That's actually my go-to utility, but it's not been giving what seems to be perfectly accurate voltage data on the Ryzen platforms, which differs from the bios readings and differs from AMD's own utility. I tend go with the bios reading as a general rule.

 

[GoldenX]

Ryzen Master is pretty good, but it's QT interface kills performance while it's open.

 

[YautjaLord]

Back from the sorta dead...... See the sys specs, in a meantime here's a final pic of a build, by this weekend the benchmarks will follow, aside from AORUS Graphics Engine giving my *.dll error everything works like a charm:

This thing gives me 221fps in AvP D3D11 benchmark (1920x1080, VSync Off, 1xAA, max everything else) & 75fps in Heaven 4.0 (1920x1080, tessellation Extreme, 8xAA, textures @ Ultra, VSync Off), if you all want i'll drop the scores of these 2 here as well. Ryzen 7 1700X @ 3.7GHz gave a score of 1635cb. Cheers.