Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[cdawall]

Next time, buy G.Skill.

I was playing with the Corsair lpx 3600's at 3800 again today on my now replaced ch6...

 

[cadaveca]

I was playing with the Corsair lpx 3600's at 3800 again today on my now replaced ch6...

Good for you, but all the launch-day reviews with Corsair sticks (sent by AMD) had trouble, including the review here.

 

[cdawall]

Good for you, but all the launch-day reviews with Corsair sticks (sent by AMD) had trouble, including the review here.

They are also lower binned by a lot. Top end sticks as a whole seem to be clocking fine. The - b Samsung seems more forgiving and is what Gskill uses in their top end kits, but they all seem fine. Even on the release bios I was able to push 3600. It was other issues that frustrated me with that board.

 

[Grings]

Avoid TridentZ F4-3200C16-8GTZB as they are dual sided sticks
(I still see these in stock a few places in the uk)

I got them cheap a while back for a skylake build hoping to pick up some 4000ish sticks later on and put these in a Ryzen build when it came out...

Arse.

 

[the54thvoid]

Got my build up and running, set the memory to 3200 and it's stayed there faithfully. Everything working well so far. Haven't tried any real overclocking yet but will try soon. Still have old system as main PC while I 'experiment' with AMD.

 

[bencrutz]

Got my build up and running, set the memory to 3200 and it's stayed there faithfully. Everything working well so far. Haven't tried any real overclocking yet but will try soon. Still have old system as main PC while I 'experiment' with AMD.

what mem stick you are using?
i can't get my team delta 3000MHz 2x16GB to run even at measly 2666MHz
could only ran at 2400MHz on the crosshair vi hero

 

[cdawall]

what mem stick you are using?
i can't get my team delta 3000MHz 2x16GB to run even at measly 2666MHz
could only ran at 2400MHz on the crosshair vi hero

Well those are dual rank dimms.

 

[the54thvoid]

what mem stick you are using?
i can't get my team delta 3000MHz 2x16GB to run even at measly 2666MHz
could only ran at 2400MHz on the crosshair vi hero

I used the QVL list and got GSkill kits. I read that using over 16gb can cause issues.

 

[cdawall]

These are the single rank corsair 3600's again. They do 3600 at these timings as well, but the IMC is becoming unstable on me. This yielded the best performance overall.

 

[cadaveca]

These are the single rank corsair 3600's again. They do 3600 at these timings as well, but the IMC is becoming unstable on me. This yielded the best performance overall.

ROFL, so it takes 3600 MHz Corsairs to match 3200 MHz G.Skill? Interesting. I wonder which is more expensive.

I got 3600 MHz G.Skills... guess I gotta give them a try when I rebuild my Ryzen system.

 

[cdawall]

ROFL, so it takes 3600 MHz Corsairs to match 3200 MHz G.Skill? Interesting. I wonder which is more expensive.

I got 3600 MHz G.Skills... guess I gotta give them a try when I rebuild my Ryzen system.

These are just the sticks I have access to for this build. All Samsung -b seems to do well with this platform. Some smarter minds than me think it is the tertiary timings being set very tight and the -b's being able to cope better with that.

I tried a set of tridentz's that were 3200 rated and couldn't get them as tight in the timings. I bet if I pushed the ram voltage down I could pull off CL12.

 

[cadaveca]

G.Skill C14 sticks have worked just fine for me(both Intel and AMD-rated ones), but I'm using sticks at their rated speeds, not overclocking the sticks at all or trying higher-rated and more expensive sticks at lower speeds.

Potential buyers need to know exactly what to buy to get the most out of their dollar.

Since most boards don't offer tertiary timing settings, tweaking is going to be difficult for many. Benefit of the Intel platform is having those options I guess. But I see that secondary's matter a fair bit too with my board, but the review of the ASRock Taichi is complete, and I am now moving on to other boards. I'm not liking what I see from others yet (since ASUS's new BIOS is finally matching ASRock's pre-launch BIOS, a month later), but I have yet to get my hands on an MSI board...

 

[cdawall]

The MSI board is supposed to be reasonably good from what I have seen in some of the other threads. 1002 is finally a decent BIOS for the CH6, the rest should have never seen a consumers hands as far as I am concerned.

And yea these sticks aren't cheap, but were picked for obvious compatibility reasons.

 

[cadaveca]

And yea these sticks aren't cheap, but were picked for obvious compatibility reasons.

The struggle is real.

I sure got lucky with my first-pick hardware... except cooling. I dunno what to use... I am thinking my chip needs about 250 W of cooling to meet 4.1 at reasonable (70c) temps. Then there's the whole bracket availability thing... ROFL. Artic Cooling has a couple of coolers (one air, one AIO) at the local shop, but I don't think either is going to give me what I'm looking for.

 

[cdawall]

EK block on mine is fine.

 

[cadaveca]

Too much hassle for me for board reviews to go to that length. I want AIO I guess, but not Corsair. Getting a 5c - 6c delta on inlet/outlet temps on H100.

Now that I've got the HVAC learning done, this makes me laugh a bunch.

 

[cdawall]

I am not a big fan of AIO's

 

[cadaveca]

I am not a big fan of AIO's

They are too popular, and easy to use. But Corsair's plastic backplates can go to hell, won't touch 'em.

 

[bencrutz]

Well those are dual rank dimms.

yep, am aware of that

I used the QVL list and got GSkill kits. I read that using over 16gb can cause issues.

unfortunately I bought mine along with ryzen preorder, and that was before asus put anything on the QVL list


well, mine are microns and dual rank, guess i'm fu*ked eh can only boot normaly at 2133MHz
it have problems on cold boot at 2400MHz & 2666MHz, it would turn on for a few seconds and then suddenly off, and a second later turn back on it self but the thing is, there's no such problem on warm boots

 

[m0nt3]

Update, I got past my q-code 55 error by setting PLL Voltage to 1.88 and have had no troubles passing POST since. Even got my Corsair Vengence booting without issue at 3200 16-18-18-18-36 1.35V (using DOCP Standard Profile.)

 

[bencrutz]

Update, I got past my q-code 55 error by setting PLL Voltage to 1.88 and have had no troubles passing POST since. Even got my Corsair Vengence booting without issue at 3200 16-18-18-18-36 1.35V (using DOCP Standard Profile.)

care to share how much voltage applied to the SOC?

 

[m0nt3]

care to share how much voltage applied to the SOC?

Didn't change SOC, only PLL and set it to 1.85

 

[Johan45]

G.Skill C14 sticks have worked just fine for me(both Intel and AMD-rated ones), but I'm using sticks at their rated speeds, not overclocking the sticks at all or trying higher-rated and more expensive sticks at lower speeds.

Potential buyers need to know exactly what to buy to get the most out of their dollar.

Since most boards don't offer tertiary timing settings, tweaking is going to be difficult for many. Benefit of the Intel platform is having those options I guess. But I see that secondary's matter a fair bit too with my board, but the review of the ASRock Taichi is complete, and I am now moving on to other boards. I'm not liking what I see from others yet (since ASUS's new BIOS is finally matching ASRock's pre-launch BIOS, a month later), but I have yet to get my hands on an MSI board...

They're sending me a lower end x370 SLI this week so we'll see how it works. I've been kicking the CHVI pretty good over the last few weeks. Better now they got the BIOS straightened out. Doesn't brick but I think some of the performance is still lacking. I find for me any way memory works the best between 2900-3300 at least the way things are at the moment. I've read thhat the memory should be opened up a bit in May but that's a long ways off in my eyes.

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[the54thvoid]

Well finally up and running. Still on original BIOS, 0702 but memory is running at 3200 no issues and tried mild OC (3.8Ghz). Used Asus software to begin and voltage as showing as 1.35 despite applying .05 offset.
Prime on max heat test (Small FT) and the air cooler keeping it below 70 degrees after 10 mins.

Happy so far. Feel no need for BIOS update. Will play more with OC as the week goes on. Also have my 1080ti FE under a heatkiller block and at 2Ghz settled at 43 degrees after 90 mins of BF1 averaging about 125-135 fps @ 1440p on ultra.

FWIW found Ryzen Master pretty poor compared to Asus own OC software.

Edit: ignore edit.... Phone acting weird

 

[m0nt3]

Well finally up and running. Still on original BIOS, 0702 but memory is running at 3200 no issues and tried mild OC (3.8Ghz). Used Asus software to begin and voltage as showing as 1.35 despite applying .05 offset.
Prime on max heat test (Small FT) and the air cooler keeping it below 70 degrees after 10 mins.

Happy so far. Feel no need for BIOS update. Will play more with OC as the week goes on. Also have my 1080ti FE under a heatkiller block and at 2Ghz settled at 43 degrees after 90 mins of BF1 averaging about 125-135 fps @ 1440p on ultra.

FWIW found Ryzen Master pretty poor compared to Asus own OC software.

Edit: ignore edit.... Phone acting weird

For the Crosshair VI you really should update the UEFI, there is a bug in that version that can cause the SOC voltage to get to high and brick your motherboard. Also has something to do if it updates the UEFI from within windows from the asus software.