OFFICIAL Star Citizen

[human_error]

Of course. Maybe because it is? Overhyped from day 0, shit ton of money taken from people, and after what, 3 years?, there's nothing more than a lousy buggy demo showcasing few individual game parts. That's a fail.

Considering they needed to build up the dev teams from nothing getting this far in 3 years is ahead of where I would predict their progress. Games like this take 4-5 years to build, and they're looking to be closer to the 4 year mark than 5 years, which is pretty good going. The game demo they have now is actually fully integrated - ai, combat, shopping, refitting ships, missions, fps and space combat all in one environment is not what I would call individual parts.

Did some backers overhype the game? sure. Let's not use their overexcitement as a reason for why the game is a failure.

 

[Random Murderer]

Of course. Maybe because it is? Overhyped from day 0, shit ton of money taken from people, and after what, 3 years?, there's nothing more than a lousy buggy demo showcasing few individual game parts. That's a fail.

By the very definition of "vaporware," SC is not vaporware.
We already have something that we can buy and use what we bought. Being finished or not has no bearing if we can use what we bought.
Even being a staunch SC supporter, however, I do admit that the vaporware line is a bit gray here.

 

[WhiteNoise]

So can people actually fly these ships and do missions yet?

I haven't played in awhile but last time I did my ship flew great. Awesome looking game. I'm just waiting for a more complete package before jumping in again.

 

[D007]

I wouldn't even look at Star citizen for two more years..lol
They bit off more than they realized. They may pull it off but it will take time.
I've spent quite a bit in there.. Idk.. $700.00...lol..
I'm just waiting til it's much further along before I invest my time into it.

 

[Ungari]

I have gone 360 degrees for a full circle about this game development.

Although I have has some great fun playing around in a few of the previous builds, the performance is actually decreasing instead of improving, and the mechanics do not seem to be stacking towards the modular development to a full universe as planned.

Particularly troubling is the focus on soliciting more pledges from the existing backers in the form of exorbitantly priced new ships, to the point that it seems like the game is merely a marketing demo, and not a true Alpha. What is amazing is just how successful this campaign has been as CIG seems to be making more profit from this than they ever could by selling a released game.

The RSI Forums are dominated by sockpuppet avatars aka paid PR shills, or Stockholm Syndrome fanbois; and any real discussion critical of the project is routinely suppressed or shut down by the supposedly volunteer moderators.

CIG has also ignored, or publicly ridiculed and insulted backers who were unhappy with the development of ships they purchased. This attitude towards customers does not inspire confidence in me, but makes me rather suspicious.

I would not at all be surprised that if in the end the name Chris Roberts will be synonymous with Albert Ponzi, or Bernard Madoff.

 

[erocker]

Everyone's opinions are welcome!

-Server FPS is dependent on some new things coming up, namely item system 2.0 and other optimizations. Supposedly happening/starting in the next couple of patches

- Nobody is forcing anyone to buy. Businesses solicit. That's what they do.

- Heh, yep.

- You probably haven't noticed, but there are devs making feedback threads for specific ships. Heck, they even made another ship for Cutlass owners (who were probably the most unhappy with their ship). Not easy to notice though, since they are on RSI's forums. You and I know it's just not good going there lol.

- Doubtful, but anything is possible.

 

[Taloken]

Complais about times and delays are funny.

Since 2012, they are working on two games, and most important they built an entire company of hundreds peoples.

And it's a MMO, there is no "final release", there will always be enhancements and new features.

For comparisons purpose : http://i.imgur.com/flrVzR9.png

 

[Ungari]

Everyone's opinions are welcome!

- You probably haven't noticed, but there are devs making feedback threads for specific ships. Heck, they even made another ship for Cutlass owners (who were probably the most unhappy with their ship). Not easy to notice though, since they are on RSI's forums. You and I know it's just not good going there lol.

Yes, I was primarily referring to what happened with the Cutlass owners.
My take on the ship specific feedback threads is that they are a delaying tactic that temporarily placates the backers while making it seem that the Devs are responding to concerns.
Do the Devs really need a thousand posts on how people are clipping through the walls, floors and ceilings of their ships, or did they not already understand that the ship roles and functions advertised were deliberately re-purposed by themselves?
Do not the Devs already know that backers do not enjoy the Nerfs introduced to these ships so as to induce backers to purchase higher priced new ships?
I have noticed that during the course of these feedback threads, a low-level Dev will come in and occasionally thank everyone for their comments without a single indication that anything will be acted upon.
The Cutlass after two years is still a badly flawed piece of digital garbage, and the only thing CIG has done is offer them a coupon to upgrade to the Buccaneer.

 

[erocker]

Cutlass still has another re-work to go the last I read. It's not like making changes is some sort of "quick fix". It takes time and you either have the patience for it or not.

 

[Ungari]

 

[Scrizz]

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[R-T-B]

Of course. Maybe because it is? Overhyped from day 0, shit ton of money taken from people, and after what, 3 years?, there's nothing more than a lousy buggy demo showcasing few individual game parts. That's a fail.

It's not. Vaporware is lack of software. Even Big Rigs: over the road racing is not vaporware. Star Citizen is not vaporware, as they've already produced SOMETHING. The question is whether or not it will be a tangible, enjoyable experience in the end result that meets expectations.

 

[Ungari]

I want to see if Squadron 42 now stated as the primary focus, is at least Beta this year after CIG blew the December 2015 goal.
If it isn't released this year, there will still be the standard response from the Defenders Of the Faith that they would rather wait than see a rushed game.
For CIG to produce cut scenes using famous actors without even having being close to release, smacks of more marketing to create a buzz.

 

[human_error]

I want to see if Squadron 42 now stated as the primary focus, is at least Beta this year after CIG blew the December 2015 goal.
If it isn't released this year, there will still be the standard response from the Defenders Of the Faith that they would rather wait than see a rushed game.
For CIG to produce cut scenes using famous actors without even having being close to release, smacks of more marketing to create a buzz.

There will be no beta of SQ42 - they've said they want the storyline and experiences to only be experienced in a complete sense, so as not to spoil the experience. That's why CIG have not been showing much of the work on SQ42 (to keep a lot of surprises for when people play).

Cut scenes so far have been testbeds to get the character animation and rendering techniques to the right place and have been shared to show the kind of quality they are aiming for, without revealing any story spoilers.

 

[Ungari]

That's why CIG have not been showing much of the work on SQ42 (to keep a lot of surprises for when people play).

I for one, will be pleasantly surprised if SQ 42 comes out this year.

 

[erocker]

Cool! Can't wait to see this "pleasantness"!

 

[Ungari]

I have SQ 42 as part of my package, so if all that ever materializes is the single-player campaign I will consider the money I pledged satisfactory.

 

[Vayra86]

I am still praying Star Citizen will be half as good as we all think it could be.

Because even then it'll be good enough.

Praying is generally a sign of desperation though.

 

[Prima.Vera]

I see a lot of users are already playing this? How do you get involved with this game unless you pay something? In advance if the official release I mean...

 

[Ahhzz]

The only way to get into the game is to either be gifted a ship with a copy of the game, win a drawing/giveaway, or purchase a starter ship.

 

[Ungari]

I see a lot of users are already playing this? How do you get involved with this game unless you pay something? In advance if the official release I mean...

You can spend anywhere from $45-$15,000 on a game package, I would suggest the minimum amount and resist paying anymore for additional ships.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/game-packages

 

[Prima.Vera]

What do you mean 15K ??? Real money??????
Did people lose their minds?!??

 

[Ferrum Master]

What do you mean 15K ??? Real money??????
Did people lose their minds?!??

Have you heard of UAE?

 

[Ahhzz]

United Arab Emirates?

 

[Ungari]

What do you mean 15K ??? Real money??????
Did people lose their minds?!??

This phenomena is sure to be studied, as it is an example of crowd psychology.