The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[p_o_s_pc]

anyone has some advice or tips for me?
I have a X2 250 on a old Gigabyte GA-m61p-S3 being cooled by a Xiggy S1283.I know my board isn't the best but this is just a rig to play around with and for crunching and home server.
Problem is i can't get it to go higher then 4.2ghz no matter what i do. I just want it for a CPU-z SS at 4.4ghz or maybe 4.5ghz. I have tried lowering the ram speed to 533 and the HTT to 4x.I was wondering if upping the Chipset volts and lowering the NB and HTT speed would give me alittle better chance of getting higher clocks? The board maxes the CPU volts at 1.55v but overvolts it to 1.6v. Also would putting it on water cooling help any? max temp i have seen is 31c
also i have some heatsinks i got from a blown car amp cooling the mosfet's and a 80mm fan blowing on them and a 80mm fan blowing on the chipset

 

[mastrdrver]

Anyone know if the Gigabyte 890G board have timings limits like my 790fxt?

I can get a really good deal on one is the only reason I'm considering it but if it has bugs like the 790 (like can't do cas 6 on the 4x ram multiplier) then forget it.

 

[justincole]

I would suggest buying a new kit of RAM. Mixing ram will cause issues as well. These are some good kits for your system: G.Skill Flare

With your current ram, yes just use two sticks and put them in the red slots on the motherboard. You then need to find out what frequency, timings and voltage your RAM is supposed to run at. Look for a sticker on them.

so I went out and got some G.SKILL ECO Series DDR3 1600MHz and still have no luck i got it booted up once, and then it froze, so rebooted and its back to just rebooting every 4 or so seconds, help me someone im beginning to wonder if the motherboard is a dud

 

[erocker]

so I went out and got some G.SKILL ECO Series DDR3 1600MHz and still have no luck i got it booted up once, and then it froze, so rebooted and its back to just rebooting every 4 or so seconds, help me someone im beginning to wonder if the motherboard is a dud

Did you go into the bios and set the frequency, timings and voltage where they are supposed to be?

 

[justincole]

Did you go into the bios and set the frequency, timings and voltage where they are supposed to be?

i can't get into do that, it won't get me to the bios or anything, just push the start button and give it 4 seconds and it just re boots, nothin through the monitor or anything arrr

 

[erocker]

i can't get into do that, it won't get me to the bios or anything, just push the start button and give it 4 seconds and it just re boots, nothin through the monitor or anything arrr

Reset the CMOS by either moving the jumper on the motherboard or removing the battery for about 10 seconds. (With the power off!)

 

[justincole]

Reset the CMOS by either moving the jumper on the motherboard or removing the battery for about 10 seconds. (With the power off!)

sorry if it sounds silly but how do 'move the jumpers'? more specifially, where are the im google ing as we speak but not havin much lunk

 

[erocker]

What motherboard are you using? It would help if you go to the User CP and fill out your system specifications.. Don't forget to tick the box so it shows the specs on the forum.

 

[justincole]

What motherboard are you using? It would help if you go to the User CP and fill out your system specifications.. Don't forget to tick the box so it shows the specs on the forum.

ah yes that would be a great idea haha im using the Crosshair iv with 1090t

 

[erocker]

ah yes that would be a great idea haha im using the Crosshair iv with 1090t

Oh, okay it's easy then! There's a button on the back I/O plate to clear the CMOS. Push it!!!

 

[justincole]

Oh, okay it's easy then! There's a button on the back I/O plate to clear the CMOS. Push it!!!

alrighty, so i powered it up, pushed the button, and got into the bois! wooo so i checked the timing, and it is all correct, but the voltage seems to be off, its supposed to be at 1.35 but is somethin different, shouldi change that? cause as soon as i exited the bios, it went to reboot and im back to it going into that cycle again

 

[erocker]

alrighty, so i powered it up, pushed the button, and got into the bois! wooo so i checked the timing, and it is all correct, but the voltage seems to be off, its supposed to be at 1.35 but is somethin different, shouldi change that? cause as soon as i exited the bios, it went to reboot and im back to it going into that cycle again

It probably defaults to 1.53v or something like that. You can try setting it properly. Thing is, it should still work fine at 1.53v

 

[justincole]

It probably defaults to 1.53v or something like that. You can try setting it properly. Thing is, it should still work fine at 1.53v

this is killin me! ahhh can you think of any other possible issues? i mean, it is just hit and miss at this point if i can even get into the bios at all, let alone dream of getting into windows, would it be a case of a bad motherboard? dare i attempt a 'direct excahnge' that the store offers? (so says their receipt ha)

 

[erocker]

I guess what I'd do now is take everything out of the case and assemble it on top of the motherboard box to try to narrow down the problem. I think we should be pretty confident that the RAM isn't an issue. Keep it simple for now, just hook up one HDD, put the RAM in the red slots and make sure everything is seated correctly.

Make sure the CPU cooler is making good contact -That's one thing that can cause a system not to boot, if the CPU becomes too hot.

 

[justincole]

yeah, ill give that a try tomorrow evening, thanks for all your help erocker! ill let ya know what it comes to!

 

[Chicken Patty]

this is killin me! ahhh can you think of any other possible issues? i mean, it is just hit and miss at this point if i can even get into the bios at all, let alone dream of getting into windows, would it be a case of a bad motherboard? dare i attempt a 'direct excahnge' that the store offers? (so says their receipt ha)

hey bro, I use the same board. That board has a little red button right on top of the SATA connectors that is supposed to let you boot with basically any RAM. It basically just sets the RAM settings so that you can boot and change them or what not. At this point, I'd just give it a shot. Look in the manual, it'll explain better.

EDIT: Got it from this review. http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/revi...air-iv-formula-living-review-2.html#post93070



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[eidairaman1]

When I build a machine and want to start it very first time I always reset the bios/clear CMOS

 

[mastrdrver]

Anyone got any good instructions on fixing traces that are scratched on the back of a board?

I've got a paper weight right now.

 

[JrRacinFan]

anyone has some advice or tips for me?
I have a X2 250 on a old Gigabyte GA-m61p-S3 being cooled by a Xiggy S1283.I know my board isn't the best but this is just a rig to play around with and for crunching and home server.
Problem is i can't get it to go higher then 4.2ghz no matter what i do. I just want it for a CPU-z SS at 4.4ghz or maybe 4.5ghz. I have tried lowering the ram speed to 533 and the HTT to 4x.I was wondering if upping the Chipset volts and lowering the NB and HTT speed would give me alittle better chance of getting higher clocks? The board maxes the CPU volts at 1.55v but overvolts it to 1.6v. Also would putting it on water cooling help any? max temp i have seen is 31c
also i have some heatsinks i got from a blown car amp cooling the mosfet's and a 80mm fan blowing on them and a 80mm fan blowing on the chipset

What's your max HT Speed aka FSB?

@mastrdrver

Rear defogger window kit at auto parts stores works wonders!!!

 

[p_o_s_pc]

Anyone got any good instructions on fixing traces that are scratched on the back of a board?

I've got a paper weight right now.

if it is only the top layer you can get lucky and connect them with conducive silver ink or one of the rear window defroster repair things(the little copper looking stuff) just be careful and put it only on the 1 trace.(don't let it get on the ones beside it)

@JR alittle late bro already gave up and sold the CPU

 

[JrRacinFan]

@JR alittle late bro already gave up and sold the CPU

Awwwe

What you gettin to replace the lil bugger?

 

[p_o_s_pc]

Awwwe

What you gettin to replace the lil bugger?

right now nothing.The old gigabyte board doesn't seem to be too healthy so selling things off and going to replace it with a i7 920/i7 930 in November.

 

[brandonwh64]

right now nothing.The old gigabyte board doesn't seem to be too healthy so selling things off and going to replace it with a i7 920/i7 930 in November.

I have had some good luck with this ASRock board. there newer stuff is pretty good. Once these nice pay checks get rolling in, i may upgrade my HTPC's motherboard to a ASRock 890GM PRO3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

I will have to sale my DDR2 RAM and get some DDR3 for this change but it will be alot better.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

I have had some good luck with this ASRock board. there newer stuff is pretty good. Once these nice pay checks get rolling in, i may upgrade my HTPC's motherboard to a ASRock 890GM PRO3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

I will have to sale my DDR2 RAM and get some DDR3 for this change but it will be alot better.

thanks for the link. I plan to just finish up the i7's water cooling and then work on the 2nd rig for my bday. may grab a cheap board and a X6 1055

 

[Chicken Patty]

Well, this is what I'm at right now with the 1090T and the CH IV. Crunching 24/7 so being conservative on the temps.