The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[fullinfusion]

just got the board.. how do i zip them up.. simple settings at the moment though

21x multi
200fsb
1600mhz ram 1.9v 7,7,7,20,1t
1.51v cpu
1.25v nb @ 3000Mhz
all other voltages at stock
llc on for cpu off for nb

thats only 4.2GHz... I run 4.4ish want my setting?
go into the bios and use the overclocking save option, click save and blah cant remember but its in there... real easy to use.

 

[exodusprime1337]

ok kewl, i'm currently running this out of concern for temps, i can't get a good stress of it i worry about this stuff

currently working out the voltages, running 1.45 for 4.2 right now, which is much lower than it was on my m4a79t, made it through 5 passes of linx so far, i'm letting it go the 20 and see how it works.

edit:: and sure i'll try your setting thanx

 

[exodusprime1337]

So full, i'm working on getting you my settings, i've just got my water coolin setup open and i'm playing with the flow and whatnot, i just cleaned out hte rad and block last night i should be at optimal,

the variables are as such, the ambient temp is at 25c, the water at idle with stock clocks is about 28c, the board at idle after 15 minutes reads 30c so lets just say that it was close to the cpu core temp(probably not) but it would mean that the cpu is roughly 2c above the water temp. Oh and by the way the cpu core temp is reading about 15c... meaning that if i'm right the cpu core temp is roughly 15c lower than the actual core temp(once again probably not)

no under load it looks something like this

ambient temp is still 25c, water temp after about 10 minutes of occt is 28c( this is the temp of the water going into the cpu block), the cpu socket temp is now maxing at 40 and the highest the core temp reads is 27) meaning that the difference between core and socket is now only 13c. Still close to the idle 15c.

all this was done feeding it 1.30v

i have a feeling that at stock my radiator is complete overkill and the increase in core temp is simply being affected by the air temp, and the blocks ability to dissipate heat which is basically saying at 28c water the block only allows the processor to increase 2c or so at idle and 12c at load.. going off socket temps of course because the core temps are way lower, but even then those stay withing 13-15c of the socket temp always lower...

am i getting somewhere with this here, is my loop fuggered up in some way, is it just hot in my room right now, or is everything ok?

i just hate benching at 4.4Ghz 1.535v and hitting 65 on the socket temp, lets say it's about 13c on the core and the core is reading 38 and the socket is readying 60, that could mean if the offset is consistant throughout the temp range that the core is really only 51c?

 

[Chicken Patty]

I still gotta flash to the latest BIOS on my CH IV, lazy anyone?

 

[exodusprime1337]

ok gonna do this at 4.2Ghz now and compare the two results

board settings:
4.2Ghz 1.476v 200x21, all other settings the same

idle:
water temp: 28c
socket temp: 32c
cpu core temp: 19c
air temp: still 25c

load
water temp: 30c
socket temp: 51c
cpu core temp: 36c
air temp 25c.

so once again a few things still stand out here, my conclusions are thus

at idle the cpu temp is only 4c above the water, not bad but it's idle so we're lookin at i guess you'd call a 4c delta there
at load the cpu temp is almost 21c above the water according to the "socket temp" which i cannot give a full accurate reading on because once again it's the socket
and the most important thing i've learned is that the core temp is once again 15c below the socket temp..

i would say at stock vcore and 3200mhz stock, the socket temp is a much more accurate reading given the lack of heat being generated by the cpu and the heat being removed, the delta there was only 2c and the delta at 4200mhz 1.475v at idle was 32 with all the same variables that leaves a 4c delta. at load however the cpu at stock was only 12c above the water where at 4200mhz the cpu was 21c above the water almost 2 times the difference. My question is this.. is the cpu block doing it's job.. or is it failing to dissipate large amounts of heat and it's time for a lap job?

 

[Corduroy_Jr]

whats socket temp?

 

[exodusprime1337]

whats socket temp?

it's the on the mobo temp sensor, not the core temp, basically the bios temp, but what it reports in windows is what i used.

 

[Corduroy_Jr]

it's the on the mobo temp sensor, not the core temp, basically the bios temp, but what it reports in windows is what i used.

all weird to me man

 

[justincole]

i just got my 1090t processor and crosshair iv all loaded and i've got a bit of a problem that has me concerned...

i had it running up at 3.77 but it began to crash, it was at 49d/c i belive liquid cooled, so after the first crash i lowered it to 3.4 then crashed again within 20 mins, and just set it back at 3.2 and once again crashed....any advice? maybe it just needs a rest for the day and try again tomorrow?

 

[eidairaman1]

i just got my 1090t processor and crosshair iv all loaded and i've got a bit of a problem that has me concerned...

i had it running up at 3.77 but it began to crash, it was at 49d/c i belive liquid cooled, so after the first crash i lowered it to 3.4 then crashed again within 20 mins, and just set it back at 3.2 and once again crashed....any advice? maybe it just needs a rest for the day and try again tomorrow?

Need rest of system specs.

 

[justincole]

1000W Antec power
3X2gig ddr3 (can't remember the name, somethin low end came from a dell decktop i think)
2X9800GTX OC video
1090t processor
crosshair iv
liquid cooled
bunch of hard drives
super multi blue dvd/blue reader
umm think thats about it

 

[erocker]

Most likely it's your memory giving you issues. I believe having three sticks in there gives you single channel and it also sounds like you haven't set it up with the correct frequency, timings and voltage.

 

[justincole]

would i be better off running in just 4 gigs? i do plan on getting an ocz 4gig stick soon but i guess i should try out with just two stick and see, any other suggestions?

 

[eidairaman1]

Ram that usually comes equipped in a Dell is Specifically for that dell and nothing else, just run the machine at factory speeds and save money till you can get some memory.

 

[erocker]

would i be better off running in just 4 gigs? i do plan on getting an ocz 4gig stick soon but i guess i should try out with just two stick and see, any other suggestions?

I would suggest buying a new kit of RAM. Mixing ram will cause issues as well. These are some good kits for your system: G.Skill Flare

With your current ram, yes just use two sticks and put them in the red slots on the motherboard. You then need to find out what frequency, timings and voltage your RAM is supposed to run at. Look for a sticker on them.

 

[justincole]

thanks for the tips guys! i actually use this for CAD and we get doin some heavy renderings so its nice to have a powerful system, a big step up from my old phenom i 4x haha ill look into some new memory this week prob

 

[Chicken Patty]

one question guys. Which one is my real CPU temp, the CPU one, or the core temps?

 

[Corduroy_Jr]

I would say install Ai Suite, Pc probe II, Everest, Core temp etc, and compare those temps that's most accurate with the bios and stick with that

 

[Chicken Patty]

I would say install Ai Suite, Pc probe II, Everest, Core temp etc, and compare those temps that's most accurate with the bios and stick with that

So far core temp, everest display the lower temp. PC Probe and AOD display the higher temp. Not sure what the BIOS is reading at this moment

 

[Fatal]

Its the Core temp but from the looks of your screen shot there are many things that are off. The CPU temp is the socket but it should be lower than the core temp. I have never seen it higher on my board.

 

[mastrdrver]

So far core temp, everest display the lower temp. PC Probe and AOD display the higher temp. Not sure what the BIOS is reading at this moment

Which core temp are you using? I found with the newest one it picked out the right temp on my C2 Athlon 435. Though being a X6 idk as I don't have one yet. Though on my other C2s I always go off the "cpu temp" as it is closer always. Since your core at idle is below ambient (right?) I'd just go off "core temp".

Its the Core temp but from the looks of your screen shot there are many things that are off. The CPU temp is the socket but it should be lower than the core temp. I have never seen it higher on my board.

http://img.techpowerup.org/100712/cputemp.png

AM3 chips don't show correct core temps unless it is a C3 stepping. The X6 seem to have started that whole thing over again as everyone reports core temps being below ambient at idle which is impossible.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Got this response elsewhere


CPU is the socket temp, which is the one you want to look out for.

The other temps for the cores is off by about 10'C, as there is a temp sensor bug with Thuban

 

[Corduroy_Jr]

i thought it all depends on what motherboard u have, cause my Asus M4A79 Deluxe reports incorrect cpu temps, it never does this with my Asus M4A785-M with pII 955BE temps are bang on

 

[Corduroy_Jr]

but then again my 955be is c3 stepping

 

[Chicken Patty]

Yeah motherboards have to do with it as well.