The Official Magic the Gathering card game Rules, Questions, and General Discussion Thread

[Space Lynx]

they're meh tbh, i liked mirage/harkey's art style more. it doesn't have to be this generic (almost-)photorealistic crap to look good tbh

i think its just nostalgia for me. opening a pack of Judgement after school in the 8th grade. man those were the best days. the world is shit now. too much noise in this world. humans were never meant for social media and instant high speed internet. our future is fucked lol

 

[kilo]

The art is uninspiring these days. Every izzet spell in purple, every black spell is dark. Most of the art is zoomed out to far.

i think its just nostalgia for me.

My older brother taught me how to play using his ice ige decks. The first deck i purchased for myself was from Nemesis with Stoneflow Overseer on the cover. It was the coolest box art but the worst set ever. Imagine being a young boy and all your rares have vanishing, but scaled wurm doesn't.

The nostalgia is powerful. But it was also a new and exciting product in the 90's.

The power creep has been intense recently with a 12/12 that makes another 12/12. They (probably) needed to power creep to get people back after "recent enough current events." Reminds me of going from Nemesis power to Mirrodin, and now an oppoment's Platinum Angel can't let you win.

Rambling over. I think much of the nostalgia comes from making friends. I had a play group where no one cared too much to win, we just made edh decks we thought would be fun for ourselves. When I moved recently, I started going to another lgs and everyone had $2k-$3k decks and were into politicking. A lot hangs on a good group, or you just spend a ton of money to win, play the same expensive deck over and over, and not make friends.

 

[Space Lynx]

Well I think the latest Standard expansion has been out for a week now, honestly this is the first expansion in several years I never did a single draft or sealed deck tournament on opening week. I have no intention to, just a very lackluster expansion imo. I like the Disguise mechanic though, a neat thematic take on Morph from Onslaught, but with Ward, hence the name Disguise. lol that is mildly creative, so I give them that, but yeah this round doesn't interest me.

Hopefully the next Standard expansion is good, will keep doing my daily quests for gold until then.

I have like 80k gold saved cause there is nothing I want to buy, people don't give enough credit to this game, its really quite easy to stack gold over time and never spend a penny.

 

[Vayra86]

Yep... same sentiment here. They release too many goddamn cards. I'm bored. It feels like busywork. Oh I can go about yet another five pages worth of text on my cards to achieve some weird strategy. Yawn. Its clear they're running out of good ideas. Too much fluff around each set as well, too often. Dungeons, day/night, planes, battles... and none of it really sticks.

And then there's the reprint sets and the additional mini sets attached to things... jesus christ. Its raining cards. Value on bombs has dropped everywhere. They're printing shit like no tomorrow, its crazy. And lets not get started about as much as 5 or 6 art versions of some cards...

The thematic sets are for better or worse starting to shine in all this madness. If the theme is up your alley... Fallout set coming. Not a big fan, but yeah, okay. There's some good effort into those things. The Warhammer 40K deck set was amazing. Those sets also don't overcomplicate themselves. They just pick and choose from mechanics that really fit the theme. Its also not OP in any way, but powered quite right. I like.

 

[Selaya]

yeah, less is more

 

[Sensates]

they're meh tbh, i liked mirage/harkey's art style more. it doesn't have to be this generic (almost-)photorealistic crap to look good tbh

I agree. Started playing with Alliances and first Starter was a Mirage. They used to look way more fun and with characters.

These days I login to Arena, reading some of them cards already put me in the mood for sleep.

 

[Space Lynx]

I agree. Started playing with Alliances and first Starter was a Mirage. They used to look way more fun and with characters.

These days I login to Arena, reading some of them cards already put me in the mood for sleep.

I started with Odysset block launch, but I really wish Arena would let us relive the old days, I'd like to experience Ice Age, Mirage, Odyssey Block, Onslaught too

If they offer sealed drafts on anything Onslaught or older I will spend money on Arena for the first time.

I miss the old days.

 

[Selaya]

they barely even let us draft DAR so yeah, dream on

 

[Space Lynx]

they barely even let us draft DAR so yeah, dream on

Hey, I like dreaming!

 

[Vayra86]

I started with Odysset block launch, but I really wish Arena would let us relive the old days, I'd like to experience Ice Age, Mirage, Odyssey Block, Onslaught too

If they offer sealed drafts on anything Onslaught or older I will spend money on Arena for the first time.

I miss the old days.

I think just letting the printer roll and building a cube out of ancient set proxies is the only way to get there now.

And then finding a table for it with like minded individuals

Because lets face it. Arena aint gonna go there without forcing you to buy a shitload of packs along the way. And then continually changing it up too, so you keep buying.

 

[Melvis]

MTG thread? First I knew this was here, long time MTG player since MTG first came out back in the early 90s but stopped playing awhile ago when the cards just became to strong with no side effects, Meriden was the start of the game going down hill in my eyes but did make some very old Artifact cards very strong.

 

[Selaya]

mirrodin? that's ... ancient history, man. infact it's way closer to the OG 93/94 than it is to this contemporary bs. and it's not like we've not had fiascos like urza's or masques b4, either.
i'd say the alara-innistrad period's the game's original sin. i mean, maro's always been dumb af and always had extremely bad ideas about the game, but yeah.

 

[Space Lynx]

MTG thread? First I knew this was here, long time MTG player since MTG first came out back in the early 90s but stopped playing awhile ago when the cards just became to strong with no side effects, Meriden was the start of the game going down hill in my eyes but did make some very old Artifact cards very strong.

playing MTG with an Australian would be a blast, I love the accent lol

 

[Melvis]

playing MTG with an Australian would be a blast, I love the accent lol

Haha yes I get that alot but I think the rules have changed alot since my days of MTG so Id be way out of the loop.

 

[Selaya]

there's been only one more significant revision after the 6th, which happened w/ m10-zen and that was a comparably minor one (vs the batch > stack change); the only ones of consequence involve combat (of which the most significant part is that damage no longer goes to the stack) and the removal of mana burn

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah the basic rules are still the same.

The more apparent change is that cards have books worth of text now. Not flavor text, no... they haven't got space for that. Usually there is some paragraph about however you are going to exile card X or Y in the process of getting access to some ultra silly effect you barely need to care about

 

[Space Lynx]

I like the new art on this one. Western wanted poster themed.

I did a draft tonight with the new expansion, I lost the first two games, then I went on a 5 win hot streak, only to lose to an early cast of Rakdos, The Muscle, which is OP as fuck. Anyways, was a fun comeback. I like the new mechanics of Plot and Spree. This is the first expansion I have liked in awhile. I have another draft token, so going to do that now. If I can manage 4 wins I will be happy Another 5 would be awesome though, I don't expect I will ever get another 7 win, only happened once so lol

 

[Vayra86]

Set's not bad indeed, but the paper card value of this set, much like the ones before this, is abysmal. Buying boosters for it is literally burning up money. You're not getting it back. The top five cards are some 12-8 eur worth singles and the most notables are Terror of the Peaks (reprint) and a hydra that gives treasures.

The new legendary creatures like Tinybones (the most expensive card of the set rn... lol!) and Jace (another top price card) are not really game changers either, in my pov.

Big plus is, this time there isn't a wall of exile text on every other card. Plot and Spree are quite alright, but I do hope there are going to be many more Plot cards. That would really make it shine. I hope it won't suffer the fate of Foretell, where you have just a handful of Foretell cards so they're never really a secret.

 

[Space Lynx]

Yeah I am playing on Arena so its not costing me a penny, I know you don't do Arena and hate it, but its one of the things I like about Magic these days, I don't have to spend a penny to scratch that itch so to speak. meh, it is what it is.

 

[Vayra86]

Yeah I am playing on Arena so its not costing me a penny, I know you don't do Arena and hate it, but its one of the things I like about Magic these days, I don't have to spend a penny to scratch that itch so to speak. meh, it is what it is.

Yeah honestly if I wouldnt play paper I would likely end up there or in MTGO aswell.

 

[Space Lynx]

I have 18k gems, and 102k gold now in Arena, and I haven't spent a penny on the game. lol I just win a lot

 

[Space Lynx]

My Standard meta deck for last month is a green white Saddle deck, has insane amount of synergies. Sadly, it can't compete with Diamond tier decks, so I stay in the platinum ranks. I have fun playing though, which is what I care about most, if I do a diamond meta deck it's just not fun to me anymore.

Duskmourn launches in two days, so hopefully I can think of a new creative deck with that.

@Vayra86 @Selaya

this game looks fun, I am going to get it eventually, when I do, I will probably think of you two when I get my first customers lol

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[Vayra86]

I really liked the Bloomburrow set, the whole style of it, and Offspring is a great find, too, with all those nice ETBs on creatures.

Duskmourn isn't really my thing setting wise. And card wise... the best stuff seems to be a few uncommons lol. And its all removal:

 

[Space Lynx]

I really liked the Bloomburrow set, the whole style of it, and Offspring is a great find, too, with all those nice ETBs on creatures.

Duskmourn isn't really my thing setting wise. And card wise... the best stuff seems to be a few uncommons lol. And its all removal:

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I'm not very excited for Duskmourn, but I always enjoy using my free draft tokens on a new launch day, that's all.

Bloomburrow has been fun I agree. I actually spent gems for the first time in ages, because I maxed out the Mastery Pass

 

[Space Lynx]

It won't let me edit my post above, so I have to post again.
I am playing the new expansion tonight, and this is the best common I have seen in many years... really should have been an uncommon, not that these designations mean anything anymore with this game, but eh.

In other news, I am enjoying the new expansion more than I expected, they gave us a free Jump Start with the midweek Magic event, that is kind of fun cause it's fairly balanced. Stuff like this is why I enjoy Arena, doesn't cost me a penny and I get to enjoy the new cards.


Edit: here is the new mastery pass card sleeve styles, loving the art on these