The Power of Marketing - AMD's Ryzen Hype Train Hyperloops On

[heflys20]

Looking back when AMD launched the FX chips back in 2011, they released similar images comparing it to Intel, and if I remember correctly, the FX CPU's were either neck and neck in some benchmarks, or it pulled out ahead. When people finally got their hands on them, they were disappointed!

Well, last time, their slides focused on gaming benchmarks and select multi-threaded apps. Amusingly, the 2600k was still beating it in in their own slides. I don't even think they touched on single-threaded performance. They only compared it to the 980x in gaming, which was completely pointless. Beating the "first 8 core processor" thing to death also didn't help. Bulldozer was also wildly inefficient.

This time around, their leaks show their processors beating/matching comparable Intel offerings in most benches. The processors are also more efficient. I honestly don't expect a repeat of bulldozer.

 

[cadaveca]

Yes, that exactly is dave's failing in all his posts. That and subtle pride and arrogance.

It feels good to be understood.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Just so tired of dropping more money for motherboards because of socket requirements for almost every new generation of CPU. Meh what a pain in the ass.

 

[Camm]

Just so tired of dropping more money for motherboards because of socket requirements for almost every new generation of CPU. Meh what a pain in the ass.

Well the AM3+ Socket has been around since what, 2009? lol. I think AMD deserves a new socket at this point .

 

[nem..]

I too can cherry pick benchmarks from old Anandtech Articles

Really ?

 

[EarthDog]

Just so tired of dropping more money for motherboards because of socket requirements for almost every new generation of CPU. Meh what a pain in the ass.

You don't AMD, do you?

 

[xorbe]

sysmark is intel's baby, is that not blindingly obvious

 

[Legacy-ZA]

You don't AMD, do you?

Nope, I haven't and I do know that their sockets remain pretty much the same over long periods of time. I was referring to Intel, though, I still will have to buy a new mobo if I do go with AMD.

 

[Totally]

Nope, I haven't and I do know that their sockets remain pretty much the same over long periods of time. I was referring to Intel, though, I still will have to buy a new mobo if I do go with AMD.

It's not like we haven't heard that one before, you probably said the same thing last time you upgraded too. Well, not here to convice you enjoy your new Intel motherboard, we'll still be here to lend an ear next time everyone gripes motherboard upgrades due to Intel socket changes/chipset incompatibilities.

 

[Vayra86]

Intel gets the top spots: Great products
Nvidia gets the top spots: Great products
AMD gets the top spots: Great Marketing

Given the fact that AMD's marketing has always been the worst of all players in the business, I suppose that's a massive compliment though

I have to admit that even I, someone who is usually ice fucking cold when it comes to 'the hype train' am getting pretty warm right now with this Ryzen CPU. Hell, if the 8 core clocks over 4.3 on good air cooling I might even jump on the 8c/16t. The current offering is looking way too good to be true...Two days ago I was convinced I'd not jump on the 8 core but... damn, I'm really getting enthusiastic about this chip.

 

[medi01]

sysmark is intel's baby, is that not blindingly obvious

Well, anyhow, that's what AMD says:

2016
AMD says SYSmark benchmarks are Intel-biased and don't reflect real-world usage
https://betanews.com/2016/01/19/amd...tel-biased-and-dont-reflect-real-world-usage/

And even back in 2001 (Athlon XP):

The choices here are interesting. For example, many AMD fans have criticized Sysmark 2001 as being too Intel-centric; some go as far as to label it "Intel-created". The game tests use a variety of settings and cover DirectX 6, 7 and 8 generation titles--but all are action games; there's no genre mix.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1156651,00.asp

 

[Casecutter]

I want to see people´s face when they realize games prefer 4 high clocked cores/IPC.

https://videocardz.com/66354/core-count-vs-frequency-what-matters-for-gaming

Just saying, if you can't cancel then just don't open it an send it back, no real worries.

 

[Camm]

https://videocardz.com/66354/core-count-vs-frequency-what-matters-for-gaming

Just saying, if you can't cancel then just don't open it an send it back, no real worries.

I really hate people harping on about frequency. If your playing at almost any decent resolution on anything new, your going to be GPU limited 99% of the time, and at most, may lose 2%-3% fps. And thats IF the game is a single or dual thread affinity. With more and more games starting to want threads, that starts becoming less and less. Add on top things like screen capture and general OS multitasking, and the argument pales even more.

But being serious, are people complaining about a all core turbo of 4.1Ghz? Seriously?

 

[EarthDog]

But being serious, are people complaining about a all core turbo of 4.1Ghz? Seriously?

Not that I know of...I am strictly talking overclocking headroom.

Wait... that was in a different ryzen thread, lol!

 

[Kanan]

I have to admit that even I, someone who is usually ice fucking cold when it comes to 'the hype train' am getting pretty warm right now with this Ryzen CPU. Hell, if the 8 core clocks over 4.3 on good air cooling I might even jump on the 8c/16t. The current offering is looking way too good to be true...Two days ago I was convinced I'd not jump on the 8 core but... damn, I'm really getting enthusiastic about this chip.

Not just you ... I was thinking about to sell my whole X79/3960X system to jump on the train, despite buying the 3960X mid 2016. But then again I simply don't need the extra CPU power for my GPU. 2 Cores more and a nice 20%+ IPC upgrade and a lot less power consumption is still very nice though. I hope for AMD to stay strong after Ryzen, I'd jump on the wagon after my 3960X has served a few years then, and 8 cores (+) are actually needed by games. It wasn't exactly easy for me to leave AMD, but going back would be, if the performance and pricing is right.