The RX 6000 series Owners' Club

[Felix123BU]

I got my RX 6600 XT about a week ago. I got to play around with it this weekend, and made a few comparison clips with the "old" GTX 1070 Ti.
I still have not decided if to keep the 6600 XT (since i got it close to MSRP) but i'm inclined to keep it. I have a few days to make up my mind.
This card handles 1440p really good if you get it close to MSRP. Don't know why AMD marketed it like a 1080p card, maybe just to differencied it from RX 6700 XT.

From your vids the 6600XT is around 50% faster. If the 6600XT would not be priced so high it would be a excellent card....

 

[droopyRO]

Between 20 and 50% depending on the game or scene. It is not across the board.
I got the "cheap" (460 Euros) Powercolor Fighter model. All the test are done with an undervolt to 1.09V and the fans set to a maximum of 65%. It gets to about 75ºC with 91ºC hotspot at 2000 rpm. The board weights only 510 grams, the MSI GamingX 1070 Ti is at 1078 grams ! So Powercolor went with the cheapest cooler they found on this model

 

[GamerGuy]

Between 20 and 50% depending on the game or scene. It is not across the board.
I got the "cheap" (460 Euros) Powercolor Fighter model. All the test are done with an undervolt to 1.09V and the fans set to a maximum of 65%. It gets to about 75ºC with 91ºC hotspot at 2000 rpm. The board weights only 510 grams, the MSI GamingX 1070 Ti is at 1078 grams ! So Powercolor went with the cheapest cooler they found on this model

I'm willing to bet good money that the Red Dragon/Red Devil would have fairly good improvement on temps. My Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT hangs around 70's while gaming (edge temp) with highest hot spot temp that I've seen at 86C (after about an hour of RE Village at 3840x1080, max ingame + RT enabled).

 

[mrthanhnguyen]

Got the card and the block. Just dont have time to install it.

 

[droopyRO]

I'm willing to bet good money that the Red Dragon/Red Devil would have fairly good improvement on temps. My Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT hangs around 70's while gaming (edge temp) with highest hot spot temp that I've seen at 86C (after about an hour of RE Village at 3840x1080, max ingame + RT enabled).

Yup they are, but they were about 50-100$ more expensive at launch. I didn't want to spend extra money at that time. And call me whatever you want, but "red devil" is not a name i want to purchase and neither is "hell hound".

Right now i can't find a single RX 6600 XT close to the launch price they all have a + 40-50% hike in stores. And there are people trying to sell 6600 XT at or above RTX 3060 Ti prices on the used market. And it is still summer holiday season, things might go nuts as we get closer to Black Friday and Christmas.

 

[Butanding1987]

I need to hit 23k. Almost there.

 

[jesdals]

If your not going with watercooling of your cards - take a look at this

 

[Valantar]

If your not going with watercooling of your cards - take a look at this

It's fascinating how fan shrouds are constantly being "discovered" by people all over the place. (Also, why didn't he extend his shroud to the front, so that the bottom front intake fan could also blow directly into the GPU?) There's a reason why you'll find shrouds everywhere in HEDT workstations and the like (which typically have terrible airflow affordances by consumer design standards, yet manage to stay perfectly cool and often rather quiet). They work. Keep heat sources in separated flow paths with discrete intakes and exhausts, and things improve quite massively.

 

[Felix123BU]

It's fascinating how fan shrouds are constantly being "discovered" by people all over the place. (Also, why didn't he extend his shroud to the front, so that the bottom front intake fan could also blow directly into the GPU?) There's a reason why you'll find shrouds everywhere in HEDT workstations and the like (which typically have terrible airflow affordances by consumer design standards, yet manage to stay perfectly cool and often rather quiet). They work. Keep heat sources in separated flow paths with discrete intakes and exhausts, and things improve quite massively.

There is also a reason why fan shrouds never caught on
Radiator Push vs. Pull vs. Shroud Testing V2 | martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com | Page 7

What the dude in the vid discovered is that getting good airflow to a GPU actually helps, who would have figured

 

[Valantar]

There is also a reason why fan shrouds never caught on
Radiator Push vs. Pull vs. Shroud Testing V2 | martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com | Page 7

Well, yes, the main issue is that they by definition can't be universal for DIY (socket placements, GPU placement and size, etc vary too much) and adjustable ones look like garbage and perform worse than made-to-fit ones. And expecting even experienced users to DIY an airflow guiding shroud to create separate flow paths for components is pretty unreasonable (especially as shrouds generally get in the way of showing off components). Plus the complications added by open-air GPUs with various exhaust orientations, etc. That didn't stop me from making a foamcore board shroud for the CPU cooler and exhaust fan on my DIY NAS though Works wonderfully too.

Btw, from what I can understand, the "shroud" in your link is a spacer between the fan and radiator? If so, that serves a rather dramatically different purpose than a shroud guiding flow paths within a case, and thus isn't really applicable.

 

[Felix123BU]

Well, yes, the main issue is that they by definition can't be universal for DIY (socket placements, GPU placement and size, etc vary too much) and adjustable ones look like garbage and perform worse than made-to-fit ones. And expecting even experienced users to DIY an airflow guiding shroud to create separate flow paths for components is pretty unreasonable (especially as shrouds generally get in the way of showing off components). Plus the complications added by open-air GPUs with various exhaust orientations, etc. That didn't stop me from making a foamcore board shroud for the CPU cooler and exhaust fan on my DIY NAS though Works wonderfully too.

Btw, from what I can understand, the "shroud" in your link is a spacer between the fan and radiator? If so, that serves a rather dramatically different purpose than a shroud guiding flow paths within a case, and thus isn't really applicable.

Yes, was referring to "standard" fan shrouds, if there is such a thing

But I can totally see a custom made "shroud" for very specific purposes working very well, especially if it gets the air moving to areas inside a case that have very poor air circulation. Thinking of it, if one would have a 3D printer, there would be a lot of cool things one can do for better airflow inside a case.

 

[Valantar]

Yes, was referring to "standard" fan shrouds, if there is such a thing

But I can totally see a custom made "shroud" for very specific purposes working very well, especially if it gets the air moving to areas inside a case that have very poor air circulation. Thinking of it, if one would have a 3D printer, there would be a lot of cool things one can do for better airflow inside a case.

Yeah, there definitely is. I mean, look at something like a Lenovo ThinkStation P920:

That's essentially two enclosed airflow tunnels (CPU+RAM and PSU) with two semi-open tunnels for AICs (enclosed when the side panel is on, but not enclosed between AICs) in between these. Each of which has its own separate airflow path with no heat dumped across component classes - and allows them to cool a dual-CPU workstation with up to four huge accelerators with just three case fans (one small fan in the front for each AIC area, and one larger rear exhaust for the CPU tunnel. What allows Lenovo (and HP, and Dell, and all proper workstation OEMs) to do this is that they have complete control over the case design, motherboard layout, heatsinks, etc. Only the AICs are outside of their control, and are thus left in more open - but still isolated - flow paths.

Doing the same with a DIY PC essentially requires custom fabrication as no two cases are identical, socket positioning varies between motherboards, heatsinks vary wildly in size, etc. But it has huge potential for improving cooling, instead of the brute-force, highly turbulent ATX-standard induced solution of "take a box, add various fans as desired/needed".

 

[Felix123BU]

Yeah, there definitely is. I mean, look at something like a Lenovo ThinkStation P920:

That's essentially two enclosed airflow tunnels (CPU+RAM and PSU) with two semi-open tunnels for AICs (enclosed when the side panel is on, but not enclosed between AICs) in between these. Each of which has its own separate airflow path with no heat dumped across component classes - and allows them to cool a dual-CPU workstation with up to four huge accelerators with just three case fans (one small fan in the front for each AIC area, and one larger rear exhaust for the CPU tunnel. What allows Lenovo (and HP, and Dell, and all proper workstation OEMs) to do this is that they have complete control over the case design, motherboard layout, heatsinks, etc. Only the AICs are outside of their control, and are thus left in more open - but still isolated - flow paths.

Doing the same with a DIY PC essentially requires custom fabrication as no two cases are identical, socket positioning varies between motherboards, heatsinks vary wildly in size, etc. But it has huge potential for improving cooling, instead of the brute-force, highly turbulent ATX-standard induced solution of "take a box, add various fans as desired/needed".

If I would not have a fully watercooler setup that does not need something like this, I would definitely look into something like the above. Before adding the water setup, I was actually thinking about better airflow for my reference 6800XT, I bet that could have benefited a lot from something similar.

But I do love the water-cooled build, air is fine, water is another level of cooling, not even close if done right, not with all the ducts and fans could my 6800XT oc-ed to 2.7ghz and increased power allowance stay in the 40's while having 300w flow through it

But for normal air cooling, this type of air flow control could do small wonders come to think of it.

And btw, this type of info could be really helpful for people on air who want to improve their setups and are adventurous enough

 

[droopyRO]

If your not going with watercooling of your cards - take a look at this

I think that the AIO is throwing a lot of hot air in to the case. Now, if that AIO was mounted topside than that shroud would not be so effective since the ambient would be much lower.

 

[GamerGuy]

View attachment 213900Got the card and the block. Just dont have time to install it.

Nice! Send it to me, I've got all the time in the world to install the block for you as I'm retired. My only concern is, that it might get 'lost' on the way back to you....

 

[Space Lynx]

If your not going with watercooling of your cards - take a look at this

I've done this before, removed those PCI slots. Haven't finished whole video yet, but yeah I never went that hardcore with it or designed a shroud. I imagine the shroud is what made it work so well, not sure why he said the original shroud looked like a dumpster fire, looked great to me. I would say he needs a magnetic dust filter through on back of that case where the Noctua 80mm is sucking in air. Even if it adds 2-3 Celsius worth it in the long run.

I wouldn't mind getting one of these shrouds and giving it a go, but I am not skilled enough to make one of my own, thoughts?

 

[Felix123BU]

I've done this before, removed those PCI slots. Haven't finished whole video yet, but yeah I never went that hardcore with it or designed a shroud. I imagine the shroud is what made it work so well, not sure why he said the original shroud looked like a dumpster fire, looked great to me. I would say he needs a magnetic dust filter through on back of that case where the Noctua 80mm is sucking in air. Even if it adds 2-3 Celsius worth it in the long run.

I wouldn't mind getting one of these shrouds and giving it a go, but I am not skilled enough to make one of my own, thoughts?

I am really liking the idea too, it should not be super difficult to make something like this, like buy some 0.5mm plastic sheet, cut it into shape and glue it together, should be resistant enough if done right, pity my card is no longer air cooled, would have jumped on this idea

 

[Space Lynx]

I am really liking the idea too, it should not be super difficult to make something like this, like buy some 0.5mm plastic sheet, cut it into shape and glue it together, should be resistant enough if done right, pity my card is no longer air cooled, would have jumped on this idea

I'm sticking with air cooled everything for life, because water scares the living crap out of me, especially around parts that are not easily replaced cause of the endless shortages...

 

[turbogear]

Yup, safe trip and be careful, you can get only one Turbogear, but a Turbogear can get 10 Navi20 cards

Thanks friend for well wishes.
I arrived safely at my parent's place.
I am still 3 short of 10 Navi2 that I could have had in my hand for short times.

I'm sticking with air cooled everything for life, because water scares the living crap out of me, especially around parts that are not easily replaced cause of the endless shortages...

I don't use regular water but these very low conductive fluids.
These low conductive fluids that I use with my cooling loop are no problem.
I spilled a few times some on various components because sometimes I am a little bit clumsy when opening the loop for maintainance.
I did not get any component damaged because of that until now.
One time the flow sensor usb connection stopped working after I spilled some liquid but it was not because of short circuit but the liquid dried inside the pins and it caused an open circuit / no connection.
Cleaning the connector made it work.

 

[Valantar]

I'm sticking with air cooled everything for life, because water scares the living crap out of me, especially around parts that are not easily replaced cause of the endless shortages...

I originally abandoned water cooling back in ... 2008-2009 after having a scare (tilting my case over without properly closing the fill port on my res, just missing my GPU and just barely getting a few drops on the motherboard). I got over that fear back in 2017, and I'm not looking back - there's no way I would have been able to set up as small, quiet and powerful a build as I currently have without water cooling. I understand the anxiety, but with some care it's honestly quite fine. A bit nerve wracking at times, sure, but it's really not dangerous unless you make it so.

When assembling my current loop I was lazy in my fill routine and ended up spilling a decent amount down my CPU block/pump and onto the PSU, inlcuding onto several output connectors and seams in the PSU casing. Naturally, that wasn't particularly pleasant, but I just dried everything off thoroughly, including opening up the PSU to check if water had gotten inside (it hadn't), plus using my compucleaner to blow out any water stuck in hard to reach places (including the pin housing on one PSU connector). No damage on anything, and it has worked perfectly ever since. The moral of the story: be careful when filling, don't try to take shortcuts that make you spill stuff, but even if you do it'll be fine. Just take things apart and dry them before connecting them to power. (And obviously don't have anything connected to power when filling or bleeding the loop.) Worst case scenario you'll need some alcohol or electrical contact cleaner to remove residues. It's a bit of work, but breaking anything is really hard.

 

[turbogear]

I originally abandoned water cooling back in ... 2008-2009 after having a scare (tilting my case over without properly closing the fill port on my res, just missing my GPU and just barely getting a few drops on the motherboard). I got over that fear back in 2017, and I'm not looking back - there's no way I would have been able to set up as small, quiet and powerful a build as I currently have without water cooling. I understand the anxiety, but with some care it's honestly quite fine. A bit nerve wracking at times, sure, but it's really not dangerous unless you make it so.

When assembling my current loop I was lazy in my fill routine and ended up spilling a decent amount down my CPU block/pump and onto the PSU, inlcuding onto several output connectors and seams in the PSU casing. Naturally, that wasn't particularly pleasant, but I just dried everything off thoroughly, including opening up the PSU to check if water had gotten inside (it hadn't), plus using my compucleaner to blow out any water stuck in hard to reach places (including the pin housing on one PSU connector). No damage on anything, and it has worked perfectly ever since. The moral of the story: be careful when filling, don't try to take shortcuts that make you spill stuff, but even if you do it'll be fine. Just take things apart and dry them before connecting them to power. (And obviously don't have anything connected to power when filling or bleeding the loop.) Worst case scenario you'll need some alcohol or electrical contact cleaner to remove residues. It's a bit of work, but breaking anything is really hard.

Same here.
I have two water-cooled PCs running at home and no damage since I started water-cooling in 2013.
Filling is non problematic if the reservoir is located at place without directly being on top of PSU.
I have mine located at front of case in both systems. If liquid spills during filling it goes to bottom of the case and onto room floor as my cases have ventilation grills at bottom.
I do filling with a large 150ml syringe so I rarely spill liquid while filling.
I spilled sometimes some liquid when taking out GPU but as mentioned before usual a small amount.
Only ones I was unlucky that it landed on the flow sensor and I had to clean the internal USB connect on top of flow sensor because it got socked with liquid which dried inside it and connection was broken.
This Compucleaner is really helpful.
I also own one.

 

[Butanding1987]

I've finally broken the 23k mark (overall score). I think that's it for the 6800 XT.

 

[Nargon33]

If your not going with watercooling of your cards - take a look at this

I'd be curious to know how well that works on a case that already has good ventilation from the front. A lot of prebuilds have disgustingly bad airflow, especially on the front. There is cases with 3 fans in the front blowing air against a glass panel with zero actual intake, that just swirl case air around in circles and do nothing. Any case with no air intake is going to see huge temperature improvements from even a single 80mm fan that actually does something.

 

[nolive721]

sold my AIO hybrid EVGA 1080Ti few days ago and bought a 6700XT white Hellbound

Sold the 1080ti for $700 and bought the 6700xt powercolor for $800

Runs very quiet and with a bit of UVing relatively cool as well

Power consumption reduction vs the nvidia is great and perfs are what the reviews and benchmark were telling me so happy with my decision in the end for a $100 upgrade in these crazy GPU prices days

the only concern is the idle temps,I was hoovering at around 35degC with the Ti, of course watercooled, and I am above 45degC with the 6700XT but granted in a warm room and with zero rpm feature activated as well

 

[Space Lynx]

sold my AIO hybrid EVGA 1080Ti few days ago and bought a 6700XT white Hellbound

Sold the 1080ti for $700 and bought the 6700xt powercolor for $800

Runs very quiet and with a bit of UVing relatively cool as well

Power consumption reduction vs the nvidia is great and perfs are what the reviews and benchmark were telling me so happy with my decision in the end for a $100 upgrade in these crazy GPU prices days

the only concern is the idle temps,I was hoovering at around 35degC with the Ti, of course watercooled, and I am above 45degC with the 6700XT but granted in a warm room and with zero rpm feature activated as well

yeah zero rpm is a great feature these days. i'm fine with the higher idle temps as long as they aren't to bad, 45 is great imo. the less dust the better. always remember, dust is our arch enemy... lol