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The RX 6000 series Owners' Club

I'm seriously considering upgrading my Asus Rog Strix RX 5700 XT to RX 6800 XT for numerous reasons, not least the pain in the ass driver crashes and also the V Ram clock speed which I can't see ever being solved.
On the other hand, the RX 6800 XT performance appears to be nearly twice the 5700, which is reason enough :) I'll put the 5700 in my second rig and sell the ROG Strix Rx 580, which is the plan to partly fund the new card.
The limited choice I have here is
Asus TUF
Sapphire Nitro and Pulse
Asrock Phantom
Gigabyte
Colorful
Rog Strix water cooled is way out of my price range :(
Any opinions on these cards?
 
I'm leaning towards the Asus TUF at the moment.
 
It's the Gigabyte 6600 XT Gaming OC 8G. I've done more testing - It's only during synthetic benchmarks that the difference is is over 30 degrees - games are ~14-18
OCing will make the delta greater. Both values (~30*C+ delta and ~18*C delta) are normal considering circumstances.

My RX 5700 XT had a large delta too, and it was at least 30*C when OC and H20 cooled.

My RX 6900 XT on the other hand does not.

Both make sense and are in line with reviews. Always read reviews, there is nothing different being shared so no reason to investigate or worry about it further.


I'm seriously considering upgrading my Asus Rog Strix RX 5700 XT to RX 6800 XT for numerous reasons, not least the pain in the ass driver crashes and also the V Ram clock speed which I can't see ever being solved.
On the other hand, the RX 6800 XT performance appears to be nearly twice the 5700, which is reason enough :) I'll put the 5700 in my second rig and sell the ROG Strix Rx 580, which is the plan to partly fund the new card.
The limited choice I have here is
Asus TUF
Sapphire Nitro and Pulse
Asrock Phantom
Gigabyte
Colorful
Rog Strix water cooled is way out of my price range :(
Any opinions on these cards?
Sapphire has been my brand choice for AMD cards, that or straight from the horses mouth, aka, AMD
Nitro is always their OC'd model, may require an additional PCIe power cable compared to other models as a result. Otherwise the Pulse models is what I personally go for if leaving on air. I would read reviews and get whichever one is quieter since performance is going to be super close I doubt you would notice in anything other than benchmarks. If you're going to H20 cool it, then go for performance (which means get the Nitro) since noise will be determined by your what I assume is an already existing loop setup, ie fans and pump
 
I won't be water cooling the card because I don't have room in the case what with a 240mm Corsair already in place at the top. Besides, water cooled cards with the rads already fitted are too expensive down here.
I've had Sapphire before as well and found them reliable, but I also like Asus. Just depends on what I can afford, but it must not be lower than RX 6800 XT, otherwise it's a sideways move.
 
@skizzo Agree wholeheartedly about Sapphire, and would like to expand it to include PowerColor and XFX.

Basically AMD's exclusive AIB partners. Presently have a Sapphire RX 6900 XT Nitro+ and a PowerColor RX Vega 64 Red Devil.
 
OCing will make the delta greater. Both values (~30*C+ delta and ~18*C delta) are normal considering circumstances.

My RX 5700 XT had a large delta too, and it was at least 30*C when OC and H20 cooled.

My RX 6900 XT on the other hand does not.

Both make sense and are in line with reviews. Always read reviews, there is nothing different being shared so no reason to investigate or worry about it further.



Sapphire has been my brand choice for AMD cards, that or straight from the horses mouth, aka, AMD
Nitro is always their OC'd model, may require an additional PCIe power cable compared to other models as a result. Otherwise the Pulse models is what I personally go for if leaving on air. I would read reviews and get whichever one is quieter since performance is going to be super close I doubt you would notice in anything other than benchmarks. If you're going to H20 cool it, then go for performance (which means get the Nitro) since noise will be determined by your what I assume is an already existing loop setup, ie fans and pump

I'm not worried, people kept answering way after I thought things were handled.

Random question for you (and @GamerGuy ): I always thought Sapphire cards weren't that great. Well, I got it in my head back in the early/mid 2000s and stopped paying attention to their stuff. I didn't ignore them, just never took them as serious contenders, certainly not to the extent "4090's are coming out, better find a retailer that stocks Sapphire at a good price".

Are they like Acer? If you don't know Acer, they're a company that makes a lot of different stuff - using laptops as an example of their product design philosophy early on as a younger company (mid 2000s to early 2010s): their laptops usually had the slowest processors, stupid models that barely cost less than somewhat capable ones, but they'd use them anyway. There usually wasn't enough RAM, and they'd use 2x1GB sticks instead of 1x2GB that could be easily upgraded to 4 by adding just one more 2GB stick. Not buying 2 and having 2x1s to throw out. They'd use 4200RPM hard drives with 2MB cache instead of 5400/7200 with 8/16. Their best product was a mid i5 (not the best i5) with a 45 W/h battery and the same crappy 1366x768 matte finish screen used throughout their barely differentiated models.

Now in 2022 they make a range of stuff, a lot that could be described as "good". People unaware of their past would see no problem with buying it, but me? I'm still wary. If I owned something of theirs, it'd always be in the back of my mind that they skimped on something I don't know about and my product might spontaneously fail. If it was a power supply for a very cheap product, I'd be concerned about leaving it plugged in when leaving home.
Because of what they so blatantly did in the past, I expect them to skimp on things that you can't see - most people buying their stuff didn't have a lot of money and/or weren't technically literate. I didn't have much money back then (still don't, really), but instead of buying one of their turds for $549, I'd wait until an Asus laptop went on sale to $600 from $1000, getting the model that was configured with 1x4GB RAM and 500 GB HD instead of 2x4GB RAM and 1TB HDD/120GB SSD for $1450. In a few months I'd grab another 4GB stick of RAM for $60 and a 250GB SSD for $150, bringing my total to just $810. The Asus configured the same cost $1800. I spent less than half, and that laptop is still capable - my mom's still using hers (mine fell off my bed 4 years ago and the screen cracked, I would've retired it 3 years ago).
Hers specs: 4200u or 4210u, can't remember, 8GB RAM, 500GB Samsung 850 Evo, Intel 7260 AC (original). Christmas 2013 or 14 to now. 8 years. That acer, I doubt it lasted 3. Her battery is original and gets 4-5 hours browsing with high screen brightness, like it did when new

Anyway... is Sapphire good now? Not something to spontaneously combust? Especially a video card with as much power as they take now...
 
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I always thought Sapphire cards weren't that great

For AMD they are probably the best out there I buy nothing but Sapphire Nitro+ cards and haven't had a problem with them
 
Hi guys, a few days ago I was messing with mpt with driver version 22.6.1. I have a sapphire toxic 6900xt with the XTX silicon. I noticed I can now increase vram clock limit and higher gpu core voltage without temp_dependent_vmin. I have talked to some people online but it does not seem to work for them, I suspect the Toxic's bios has something different from the rest to allow me to do this. However I did notice that even with increased vram voltage I could not get the vram to clock higher than around 2170-2180 without huge performance drop. The core clock was just fine and work perfectly though. Any feedback or comments are welcome.

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Anyone else been using windows 11 22h2 driver install does scary stuff that carry over thru reboot, if seen others already report the same, just wonder if anyone here has given it a try yet ?
 
Recently did some comparison tests between my 6800 XT in my main system and my 5700 XT in my testing system.

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I'm blown away by the efficiency of RDNA2. The 6800 XT is only using about 20-30W more than the 5700 XT, and yet it performs nearly twice as well.

Granted, the CPU in my testing system is much older than the one in my main system, and it doesn't have resizeable BAR or PCIe Gen 4. But I've found scores to only be about 10% lower than they were when the 5700 XT was in my main system.

Both cards are tuned for quiet operation. The 5700 XT is underclocked to 1850MHz @990mV, and the 6800 XT is underclocked to 2125MHz with no voltage change.
 
late entry, :D

got a Powercolor Red Devil RX 6700 XT
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couldn't be more pleased for a GTX 1070 upgrade :laugh:

initial run was low as hell even to i DDUed the previous driver, ran another DDU with more options and then updated the driver to the last one (strangely enough the drivers on TPU weren't the latest )

now, that's more like it! SOTTR 3K 60 fps? ohhhh i'm in love ... (1 year late with the launch but i already did wait 6yrs for a GPU upgrade ahah)
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oh well SOTTR 1080p score contest entry :laugh:
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Anyone else been using windows 11 22h2 driver install does scary stuff that carry over thru reboot, if seen others already report the same, just wonder if anyone here has given it a try yet ?
More info on the "Scary Stuff" please if you don't mind I'm on 22h2 but haven't yet installed 22.6.1 as of yet
 
Not on Windows 11, but since updating to 22.6.1, I have been having a problem where the graphics driver crashes when I wake my PC from S3 sleep.

This wasn't an issue on any previous drivers with either this card or my 5700 XT.

It's really annoying because my underclock settings get reset and DP audio stops working until I open the sound control panel in Windows.
 
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More info on the "Scary Stuff" please if you don't mind I'm on 22h2 but haven't yet installed 22.6.1 as of yet

All hardware dropping out for like 30/60 seconds as if your hardware stopped being recognizing and mainboard malfunctioned, after 30/60 sec everything slowly pops back up, also the radeon driver errors, best way to install driver so far is driver only minimum install then follow up with full install avoid these errors, this only happens once, when i mean drop out i mean everything drops out even lan adapter and eventually usb as well, this persist on reboot as well where you mainboard insist gpu posted but you get no display until you power cycle.
 
i had some freeze on the "latest" driver from here, but everything went back to, as expected, once i updated the driver via Adrenalin...
since then, zero issues, no freeze no performances loss

and i just went from a GTX 1070 (although i had to run DDU twice )
 
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Got my RX 6600 XT yesterday :D

Image below: HWiNFO 64 "Maximums"
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So I have a 6600 XT and I've overclocked it a bit because why not? During a physics benchmark my GPU's hot spot temperature got up to 102 deg C while the GPU temperature's maximum was only 69. This seems like a big difference to me. At idle the difference is only 3 deg C. Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0 maximum temperature (GPU) is 63 deg C, with the hotspot at 83. The card's usual TDP is 135 watts which I increased to 162. This isn't to run the card at 162 watts, I've adjusted the clocks so that the average stays well below 135, the increased maximum is mainly there to increase performance when handling complex scenes, so the framerate doesn't drop below my monitor's VRR minimum.

Is it likely my card will hit these high temperatures again during real world use? I assume it's not safe for the card to be hitting over 100C. Once I set things up to use I don't check on them routinely. I don't want to end up with a broken or damaged card
A bit late to the party here, but to me that sounds like a cooler mounting pressure issue - which it's quite widely documented that some Radeon designs have (AMD seems to specify oddly low mounting pressure for third party designs). Quite a few people mod their cards by adding 1mm or .5mm nylon washers in between the PCB and cooler mounting screws on the back to increase mounting pressure, which often helps improve this. If this bothers you, that's worth a try, but if not, don't worry - it is perfectly safe for the card to be operating at these temperatures. If it wasn't, the card would scale back clocks to compensate. IIRC tJmax for Radeon hot spot temperatures is 110 or 115°C, so you're well within the limits.
 
All hardware dropping out for like 30/60 seconds as if your hardware stopped being recognizing and mainboard malfunctioned, after 30/60 sec everything slowly pops back up, also the radeon driver errors, best way to install driver so far is driver only minimum install then follow up with full install avoid these errors, this only happens once, when i mean drop out i mean everything drops out even lan adapter and eventually usb as well, this persist on reboot as well where you mainboard insist gpu posted but you get no display until you power cycle.
That definitely sound like a damaged card, hardware wise, I got the same on 2 different cards during the years, they shortly died completely after that. Hope yours lasts.
 
A bit late to the party here, but to me that sounds like a cooler mounting pressure issue - which it's quite widely documented that some Radeon designs have (AMD seems to specify oddly low mounting pressure for third party designs). Quite a few people mod their cards by adding 1mm or .5mm nylon washers in between the PCB and cooler mounting screws on the back to increase mounting pressure, which often helps improve this. If this bothers you, that's worth a try, but if not, don't worry - it is perfectly safe for the card to be operating at these temperatures. If it wasn't, the card would scale back clocks to compensate. IIRC tJmax for Radeon hot spot temperatures is 110 or 115°C, so you're well within the limits.

I've pretty much determined that it's not an issue - games don't result in a hotspot more than ~15 degrees hotter than the GPU temp. But nice trick! I might do it to my Z390 chipset. The thermal pad MSI chose to use decided to leak a bunch of oil all the time, and since I didn't have anything to replace it with I decided to just use thermal paste lol. Unfortunately for me my motherboard doesn't report PCH temperature, but I think it's fine because my IR thermometer reports the heatsink to be 52 deg C
 
I had the the 22.6.1 driver installed and I was getting nothing but shutdowns. I keep my PC updated in terms of Windows and run Windows 11. I went back to 22.5.1 and it has been smooth sailing. There is obviously a conflict between Windows 11 and that driver. I am hoping that the next Driver update will resolve the issue.

A bit late to the party here, but to me that sounds like a cooler mounting pressure issue - which it's quite widely documented that some Radeon designs have (AMD seems to specify oddly low mounting pressure for third party designs). Quite a few people mod their cards by adding 1mm or .5mm nylon washers in between the PCB and cooler mounting screws on the back to increase mounting pressure, which often helps improve this. If this bothers you, that's worth a try, but if not, don't worry - it is perfectly safe for the card to be operating at these temperatures. If it wasn't, the card would scale back clocks to compensate. IIRC tJmax for Radeon hot spot temperatures is 110 or 115°C, so you're well within the limits.
I have an EK block on my 6800XT, I was getting that 20 degree difference in GPU vs Hotspot. I ordered some pads on Amazon that came with .5 to 2mm thick pads. I first used the 1.5 MM all over the GPU but that did not allow for a tight fit and my temps were in the 90s. I switched to the 1 MM pads on the front of the card and that allowed for a nice and tight fit. The card regularly idles in the low 30s (regardless of the VRAM clock) and regulary runs in the high 40s to low 50s when Gaming. I use a pretty costly (In Canada) Alphacool Pump/res and their quick connect tubing attached to a 420mm rad I took from an Eisbaer AIO. For me the 6800XT is the cat's meow and Freesync is much more impactful than Ray Tracing. I have said it before but my favourite Game to play is TWWH. Regardless of your GPU 4x4 20 unit battles with Ultra Unit size will have your Game running in the 40s and Freesync has been a blessing in that regard.
 
I am terrible :D

after buying a 6600, 6600XT and even a 6700Xt most recently, I have been bitten by the upgrade bug again and bought a RX6800 on Yahoo auction this week

that's a local Japan brand model but actually is the Powercolor Fighter underneath, it even shows the Powercolor brand name on the gpu shroud. Got it for the equivalent of $400 and its under warranty still.


I have done some testing last night and the card overclocks pretty well (206fps in Heaven 1080p)
I am running stable 2517Mhz core 2116Mhz fast timing Vram all at 1.025V
in heaven benchmark temps go up to around 70degC max and that's with stock fan speed (very quiet by the way)

Undervolting is also pretty good with core 2249Mhz at 0.907V in some quick check done at the same time than overclocking

the only few concerns I have and I would need help here from users, if possible

  1. there is a thin buzzing noise (coil whine?) that kind reminds me of my VEGA 64LC, is that common on such card?
  2. I have no idea how to operate the BIOS Switch. GPUZ is telling me its on OC mode (2155Mz boost) but pushing it doesn't bring it to the Quiet bios that is meant to be down to 2105Mhz
  3. even in OC Bios and with Custom overclocking, the Power draw barely exceeds 200W (see snapshot). I might be confused by the card behaviour but TDP is meant to be 250W for this model so why such limitation shown on WATTMAN reporting here?
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thanks a lot

Oli
 
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I might be confused by the card behaviour but TDP is meant to be 250W for this model so why such limitation shown on WATTMAN reporting here?
Actually it's only meant to be 225W TDP as the 6800's weren't meant to be highly OC'able the big OC'er was the 6800XT

Anyone kind enough to advise me on these 3 concerns?
Sure what do have going on that you need help with
 
late entry, :D

got a Powercolor Red Devil RX 6700 XT
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couldn't be more pleased for a GTX 1070 upgrade :laugh:

initial run was low as hell even to i DDUed the previous driver, ran another DDU with more options and then updated the driver to the last one (strangely enough the drivers on TPU weren't the latest )

now, that's more like it! SOTTR 3K 60 fps? ohhhh i'm in love ... (1 year late with the launch but i already did wait 6yrs for a GPU upgrade ahah)
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oh well SOTTR 1080p score contest entry :laugh:
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I so dig the red devils editions. Got one myself and it works great. :) Had one previously. Tried the sapphire as well but the red devil is the one.
It must have been a crazy jump for you replacing the 1070. I jumped from 5600xt Pulse to 6900xt and it was like night and day.
Grats
 
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