The TPU UK Clubhouse

[FreedomEclipse]

@Caring1 what i mean to say is, dont tar all of us with the same brush - We're not all as malicious as you think. The only thing thats malicious in me is the fact that im chinese and somewhat related to the country that likes to steal your state or military secrets.

@dorsetknob I have never come across these 'self entitled' people. I see people ride on the pavement all the time. Most of the time they are young kids and hipsters on their fixed gear bikes. sporting sunglasses and a beard. Not every cyclist will mount the pavement or think they have a god given right to.... I some times do it on saturdays when i cycle to work. they are doing something with the road and its been blocked off for ages, I do it but only if theres barely anyone on the pavement. Like maybe 3 or 4 people walking along different parts of the pavement. that way theres plenty of room for people to walk and we dont get in each others ways.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

You should get off and walk, a pavement is for pedestrians only.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

You should get off and walk, a pavement is for pedestrians only.

I do 99% of the time. Unless theres barely anyone on it.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

^^^^^^^^^^^

hoist by your own petard. !


Im glad most car drivers dont have the same wreckless attitude.

 

[dorsetknob]

@FreedomEclipse

If you ride on the footway ('pavement' is not the technically correct term, see below), you could cop a fine and you may antagonise pedestrians. Bicycles are, in law, carriages (as a consequence of the Taylor v Goodwin judgment in 1879) and should be on the road not footway.
Cycling and the law - Bikehub - http://www.bikehub.co.uk
www.bikehub.co.uk/featured-articles/cycling-and-the-law/

There you are my Law Breaking Cyclist

• Highway Act 1835 s 72 (as amended by Local Government Act 1888 s 85(1)) prohibits cycling on footways (pavement beside carriageway). The fixed penalty is £30 under the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 s 51 and Sch 3.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

@FreedomEclipse

If you ride on the footway ('pavement' is not the technically correct term, see below), you could cop a fine and you may antagonise pedestrians. Bicycles are, in law, carriages (as a consequence of the Taylor v Goodwin judgment in 1879) and should be on the road not footway.
Cycling and the law - Bikehub - http://www.bikehub.co.uk
www.bikehub.co.uk/featured-articles/cycling-and-the-law/

There you are my Law Breaking Cyclist

• Highway Act 1835 s 72 (as amended by Local Government Act 1888 s 85(1)) prohibits cycling on footways (pavement beside carriageway). The fixed penalty is £30 under the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 s 51 and Sch 3.

but i dont go looking for fights like other helmet cam wearing cyclists or jump red lights.

 

[dorsetknob]

but i dont go looking for fights like other helmet cam wearing cyclists or jump red lights.

we are not saying you are
merely pointing out its still Illegal to cycle on the footpath/footway

If The Police were to enforce The fixed penalty of £30 under the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 s 51 and Sch 3.
they could Raise a Fortune and the Footways would be Safer for their intended users
You know the old the infirm the young Mothers with children in prams and pushchairs and not lets forget postman pat on his Delivery rounds

 

[FreedomEclipse]

we are not saying you are
merely pointing out its still Illegal to cycle on the footpath/footway

If The Police were to enforce The fixed penalty of £30 under the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 s 51 and Sch 3.
they could Raise a Fortune and the Footways would be Safer for their intended users
You know the old the infirm the young Mothers with children in prams and pushchairs and not lets forget postman pat on his Delivery rounds

but my argument being is there are no twats that drive on the pavement unless you're that guy from up north who drives a dumpster truck, blacks out behind the wheel and mows down 9 people. Lets not get pulled off topic here. I never said cyclists were perfect but the abuse from drivers is quite often uncalled for. I might mount the pavement for a short distance but at least im not shouting abuse or physically assaulting other road users.

what happened to Jeremy Vine isnt an isolated incident. It happens quite regularly -- in some regions more often than others.

Im trying to find another recent article where a lady tried to take out a load of cyclists out on a group ride (i think it happened in Australia) She was shouting abuse at them, she tried to run them off the road before racing to the top of the line and slamming on her brakes, trying to make the cyclists slam into her. She's currently getting death threats on facebook and a local paper has tried to spin the story like shes the victim -- She used her car as a weapon and risked the lives of every cyclist in the group ride with her unacceptable behaviour but all of a sudden its not her fault and she doesnt deserve the death threats shes getting on facebook.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

And cyclists breaking the road laws and being twats is also a regular occurrence I believe the whole point being made was but we don't think you are anyway lol

 

[dorsetknob]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37229880

 

[Caring1]

@Caring1 what i mean to say is, dont tar all of us with the same brush - We're not all as malicious as you think.

I don't, But I do call out the ones that do the wrong thing, then make a scene when something happens, whether it's a bike, car or bus, there are sympathy seeking whingers out there.

You should get off and walk, a pavement is for pedestrians only.

I wish it were like that here, legally cyclists can use the pavement area with pedestrians, but must ride with due care, it's not a race track, although some seem to think it is.

Interestingly there is an International event being held this Sunday nearby, a Triathlon or something similar.
There has been interesting times watching the cyclists and runners go over the course before the road is officially closed to traffic, stopping in the middle of an intersection or a lane of traffic seems normal for these people, just to discuss something then taking off again. Drivers have to be particularly wary around them.

 

[Caring1]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37229880

How hard would it have been for him to pull over out of the way and let the car past?
Surely his sense of entitlement was what drove him in his decision to continue cycling in front of a car, blocking it's way along a narrow laneway.
If he had shown courtesy, none of that would have happened.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

How hard would it have been for him to pull over out of the way and let the car past?
Surely his sense of entitlement was what drove him in his decision to continue cycling in front of a car, blocking it's way along a narrow laneway.
If he had shown courtesy, none of that would have happened.

Maybe the road was so narrow there was literally no where to go? Or maybe the driver could of exercised a little patience and self restraint.

There isnt anywhere that says cyclists should always give way to motor vehicles the same way that cyclists should be cycling in the gutter or using a cycle path. Cyclists aren't obligated to use the cycle path theres no rule or law that states this just like there is now law saying we have to give way to motor vehicles every time. Its all common sense

There are too many of these "i must get in front" type of drivers that bully more vulnerable road users such as cyclists then put them at risk by squeezing past them so close that even a wobble would have them impact with the car thats trying to squeeze past.

But you dont seem to understand anyway. Just remember that cyclists have every right to be there as you drivers do and i will continue to take primary position on narrow sections of roads where a car trying to squeeze past could knock me off the bike

(edited for better reading)

 

[Beastie]

How hard would it have been for him to pull over out of the way and let the car past?
Surely his sense of entitlement was what drove him in his decision to continue cycling in front of a car, blocking it's way along a narrow laneway.
If he had shown courtesy, none of that would have happened.

If the car driver had followed the highway code none of that would have happened. The highway code is very clear about such situations. http://www.highwaycode.info/rule/163

You should-
"not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake"
"give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car"

 

[Caring1]

Maybe the road was so narrow there was literally no where to go? .....

But you dont seem to understand anyway. Just remember that cyclists have every right to be there as you drivers do and i will continue to take primary position on narrow sections of roads where a car trying to squeeze past could knock me off the bike

I totally understand, pity you keep stating I don't, which shows you are unaware of anything but your own thoughts.
Fortunately for cyclists here, we have laws about how close vehicles can get to cyclists, and motorists do get charged.
Cyclists may have the right to take "primary" position on the road, but they do so at their own risk, they can also be charged with hindering traffic.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

A nerd was walking down the sidewalk one day when his friend, another nerd, rode up on an incredible shiny new bicycle.

The first nerd was stunned by his friend's sweet ride and asked, "WOW! Where did you get such a nice bike?"

The second nerd replied, "Well, yesterday I was walking home, minding my own business, when a beautiful woman rode up to me on this bike. She threw the bike to the ground, took off all her clothes and said, 'Take what you want!'"

The second nerd nodded approvingly, "Good choice. The clothes probably wouldn't have fit."


VROOM VROOM !!!!!

 

[Tatty_Two]

It's quite easy really.
Only those people trying to prove a point bother to upload their videos whinging about this or that.
Instead of having a whinge, they should be reporting the incidents to the police so they can be investigated, if they are serious.

The police are too busy to investigate such crimes, they openly state that message, the same as mobile phone usage whilst driving etc, there are a whole host of offences that never get a look, workloads are so great that I predict murder investigations within 10 years will become a lower priority inconvenience so maybe it's just as much about cyclists protesting about the inability of our police forces to investigate crime..... until someone gets killed or seriously injured of course where it then becomes so time consuming that they don't have time to investigate anything else and so the "cycle" continues.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

But hey you better not call someone a c**t on twitter or the thought police will be straight round there in numbers ready to prosecute to the full extent of the law.

 

[Caring1]

The police are too busy to investigate such crimes....

Manning radars and mailing out speed camera photos with fines attached, you know, all the easy stuff that has a high return for the Government.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Mark Twain's Wisdom on Cycling


"Learn to ride a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live."

 

[Tatty_Two]

Manning radars and mailing out speed camera photos with fines attached, you know, all the easy stuff that has a high return for the Government.

We are talking about an organisation that across England have enjoyed 40% cuts over the last 5 years, there is no one left to man the radar and all the camera's have run out of film/HD space and there is no money left to replace them, in fact when they stop working there is no money left to pay the contractors to fix them even, there is hardly any police on the streets..... Anarchy rulz!

 

[NdMk2o1o]

http://dailym.ai/2c7xHKV

Just gonna leave that here

 

[Tatty_Two]

I say ban roads altogether, lets get back to trains, horses and canal tow paths, who needs bikes and cars anyway #OldSkool.

 

[dorsetknob]

Your just trying to bait our Frweedom
Ride A Carriage on the highway ( and a pedel cycle "is Designated a carriage by the law see above post somewhere )
then your obliged to follow and Obey the Relevant laws Regarding the Highway

why do So many Cyclist think the Road Traffic Act and other laws regarding Road usage think that they do not apply to Cyclist

Oh i know "the fuzz don't think Cyclist are Human" and "as such the laws don't apply to Animals"
You Cannot prosecute Dumb Animals only Humans

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]