TPU's F@H Team

[phill]

Received an ROG Strix 1080 Ti OC this morning, that was gifted me by a folder in the folding forums. Finishing my current work in f@h and wcg, then going to test and bench it, hopefully getting it folding by tonight. I can't find the link to the site that lists what different cards can generate, but I expect to be getting over 2 million ppd by tomorrow (replacing the 1060 3GB, which has been averaging around 600K). Guess I need to put a few more ££ aside for the electric bill

You'll love the card, I put both of mine to about 60% power usage, 50 to 60% fan speeds and temps are great and it doesn't eat the electric either I think with my 3900X combos, I go from roughly 135w CPU loaded to about 280w loaded with the GPU, so about 145w extra I run Windows 10 with mine, I hear and read that Linux can be a right pain to get Folding working for some reason but crunching works fine with it...

Don't run 24/7 if you don't want to, electric prices are a killer for me my £260 a month bill proves that!! And that's with solar panels........

Feel free to post up some pics and some screen shots for power/temps and all that jazz if you'd like Love seeing what others manage with their kit

 

[mstenholm]

The last four WUs I got was 16474 so here is a 80% power limit 2070 MSI Gaming to compare with when you get yours running.

 

[dogwitch]

The last four WUs I got was 16474 so here is a 80% power limit 2070 MSI Gaming to compare with when you get yours running.
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seems about right. have same card.

 

[debs3759]

So far so good. With the fan at 80% and nothing else tweaked yet, project 18018 is giving me 240K ppd, with the factory overclock. Will experiment with lower power over the next few days. When I factor in lower ppd when wcg gives opng work, I guess I'll be looking at around 200K. And the guy who sent me the card has offered me another, identical card. Going to leave settings as they are for 24 hours, so I can measure my power cost above the 1060, then try lower power setting in 10% increments for 24 hours each.

I'll try taking pics of the system with the side off (necessary for heat control until I can afford the GPU water block). Might not be easy though, as it's in a Little Devil case, under a desk and in a position that I can't easily remove it from Won't be before tomorrow though, want to use daylight to take pics.

 

[mstenholm]

So far so good. With the fan at 80% and nothing else tweaked yet, project 18018 is giving me 240K ppd, with the factory overclock. Will experiment with lower power over the next few days. When I factor in lower ppd when wcg gives opng work, I guess I'll be looking at around 200K. And the guy who sent me the card has offered me another, identical card. Going to leave settings as they are for 24 hours, so I can measure my power cost above the 1060, then try lower power setting in 10% increments for 24 hours each.

I'll try taking pics of the system with the side off (necessary for heat control until I can afford the GPU water block). Might not be easy though, as it's in a Little Devil case, under a desk and in a position that I can't easily remove it from Won't be before tomorrow though, want to use daylight to take pics.

You mean 2.4M PPD. 255 W is fairly high but I never had a 1080 Ti, just heard the stories (@thebluebumblebee had one shortly and @phill ) about the high power draw so it seems like they were correct. I see hardly any drop in clock going from 100 to 80% and it will help on the fan speed as well.

 

[debs3759]

You mean 2.4M PPD

Oops, yes. I keep posting a factor of 10 out

 

[phill]

So far so good. With the fan at 80% and nothing else tweaked yet, project 18018 is giving me 240K ppd, with the factory overclock. Will experiment with lower power over the next few days. When I factor in lower ppd when wcg gives opng work, I guess I'll be looking at around 200K. And the guy who sent me the card has offered me another, identical card. Going to leave settings as they are for 24 hours, so I can measure my power cost above the 1060, then try lower power setting in 10% increments for 24 hours each.

I'll try taking pics of the system with the side off (necessary for heat control until I can afford the GPU water block). Might not be easy though, as it's in a Little Devil case, under a desk and in a position that I can't easily remove it from Won't be before tomorrow though, want to use daylight to take pics.

Hey @debs3759 Found this for you -

I think that covers all angles for the GPU settings I use
If you need anything else, just give me a shout

Kind of managed a comparison screen grab, got that here

If I find some better ones I'll let you know!

 

[debs3759]

Hey @debs3759 Found this for you -

If I find some better ones I'll let you know!

Thanks.

I'm persuaded that setting up a system with the Z97 board and i5 processor is my best bet for the second card when it arrives. Then find a cheap i7 4790K, ans save for a Zen3 build (or Zen4 by the time I can afford it). Doubt I'll get to build the 32 core Threadripper system I really want, without selling my neighbour's house

 

[phill]

Could always try a Xeon if you can find one I've had a couple V3 and they've been as good as gold, I think E3-1245 V3 or something.. Was a good little CPU, might be cheaper than the 4770/4790k

 

[debs3759]

I'd have to buy a motherboard as well to go the Xeon route, and I already have a Z97 board. Also I can get up and running before the card arrives if I use Z97. 2011-3 is a socket that'll have to wait until after my next major upgrade, or I'll never clear my credit cards

 

[dogwitch]

I'd have to buy a motherboard as well to go the Xeon route, and I already have a Z97 board. Also I can get up and running before the card arrives if I use Z97. 2011-3 is a socket that'll have to wait until after my next major upgrade, or I'll never clear my credit cards

i check out some TR builds. dirt cheap right now used.

 

[mstenholm]

I found my old 7770 today and put it in my 4970 rig. That one used to have a 2070 but I parted with it before the summer. I didn't pay much attention to it since I realized it had to share network cable with another rig. Some hours later running without the cable but with a fairly new AMD driver and 6 WCG units I moved my rigs around so I could find wifi for the other rig. Within three minutes the 7770 caught 7 OPNG and I realized two things - the power consumption droped (I think it was 190 W) and the 4970 rig had an 4 OPNG profile as a leftover from the 2070. I will leave it like that to see how bad (long execution time) things are and if the GPU run 100% load without GPU work once the OPNGs are completed. With the 4 OPNG the GPU load is constant 99%, no drops and the consumption is 140 W with 6 WCG units. I wonder if it doing anything to the OPNGs…….

Edit: Ups wrong forum. I leave it here until I get a PC fired up, I`m on an IPad and I can’t cut and paste.
Edit 2: I was correct, it was 190 W without OPNGs and the reason was folding. I forgot that a 7770 can fold and it had picked up a job. I will leave it to complete and then never again let it fold.

 

[debs3759]

A quick calculation after running the new card for 24 hours shows it costs exactly £0.50 a day more than my old card to run, or £5.80 total cost per week. That makes running the second card I'm expecting soon affordable. I'll probably test the Z97 board at the weekend, and build the PC. Seems I also have a Z270 board, so I may end up trying to find an inexpensive 7700K (up to £120) and using that instead of buying a 4790K (or as well, just because)

 

[mstenholm]

A quick calculation after running the new card for 24 hours shows it costs exactly £0.50 a day more than my old card to run, or £5.80 total cost per week. That makes running the second card I'm expecting soon affordable. I'll probably test the Z97 board at the weekend, and build the PC. Seems I also have a Z270 board, so I may end up trying to find an inexpensive 7700K (up to £120) and using that instead of buying a 4790K (or as well, just because)

The link that I gave you shows that folding 1M cost half on the 1080 Ti, the extra you will have to paid will give you an extra million and a half more points per day. being in top 10 isn’t cheap

 

[debs3759]

It's never cheap to be competitive

 

[phill]

I'd have to buy a motherboard as well to go the Xeon route, and I already have a Z97 board. Also I can get up and running before the card arrives if I use Z97. 2011-3 is a socket that'll have to wait until after my next major upgrade, or I'll never clear my credit cards

You mis understand, the 1245 V3, runs in a Haswell board, as I have one running in one Its why I mentioned running one of them rather than a 4770k/4790k

When I was looking for a 7700k, they where hitting about £250 and for a quad core costing that much, nope, not spending it

 

[debs3759]

My goal for my collection is to have the highest spec I can afford for each platform, with unlocked multipliers (and to watercool those I use). Although the E3-1245 V3 can be had for half to two thirds the price I want to pay for a 4790K, it'll never be as fast. Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[phill]

My goal for my collection is to have the highest spec I can afford for each platform, with unlocked multipliers (and to watercool those I use). Although the E3-1245 V3 can be had for half to two thirds the price I want to pay for a 4790K, it'll never be as fast. Thanks for the suggestion though.

I was just more pointing out that the point of WCG, is not to have the fastest clock speed ever but to just have something that won't stop regardless The Xeon I had and still do have, worked flawlessly but when I look at my 6700k using about 110w for 8 threads and then I look at my 3900X using about 140w for 24 threads, I know where the cash would go I know I under volt all of my CPUs, none for WCG run at full chat

I suppose the other way you could look at it is that a cheap cooler, another board and a few GB of DDR3, you'd have double the thread count, similar power usage from a single 4790k and more points

 

[debs3759]

Downloading several hundred GB of data from Asus (most of their ftp site, as found on ftp.tekwind.co.jp), using Filezilla. The app is set to use a single CPU core, the only core I don't use for GPU folding or for crunching, so it shouldn't affect either. It seems that if I download more than 5 files simultaneously, even though it only use less than 1% of the CPU, it slows GPU folding by over 20% after 30 minutes of downloading. Limit it to 5 downloads, and folding isn't affected. Grabbed over 40K files so far, with 6K to go. Taken over 36 hours, and it was 18 hours before I realised it was Filezilla that was affecting the GPU

I'll be setting up the Z97 system over the weekend, and testing it with a GT 720 (got three of then for testing motherboards and probably benching CPUs) before the second 1080 Ti arrives (it's being posted on Tuesday, should arrive by Thursday). So 3 more cores to crunch on, with the 4th for GPU folding. Don't think there's any point folding on the 720 for a few days

Probably going to put purchasing things for my collections on hold until I save for a Ryzen 9 system, which I hope will be early next year

 

[dogwitch]

Downloading several hundred GB of data from Asus (most of their ftp site, as found on ftp.tekwind.co.jp), using Filezilla. The app is set to use a single CPU core, the only core I don't use for GPU folding or for crunching, so it shouldn't affect either. It seems that if I download more than 5 files simultaneously, even though it only use less than 1% of the CPU, it slows GPU folding by over 20% after 30 minutes of downloading. Limit it to 5 downloads, and folding isn't affected. Grabbed over 40K files so far, with 6K to go. Taken over 36 hours, and it was 18 hours before I realised it was Filezilla that was affecting the GPU

I'll be setting up the Z97 system over the weekend, and testing it with a GT 720 (got three of then for testing motherboards and probably benching CPUs) before the second 1080 Ti arrives (it's being posted on Tuesday, should arrive by Thursday). So 3 more cores to crunch on, with the 4th for GPU folding. Don't think there's any point folding on the 720 for a few days

Probably going to put purchasing things for my collections on hold until I save for a Ryzen 9 system, which I hope will be early next year

what was the data on the ftp site?

 

[phill]

Downloading several hundred GB of data from Asus (most of their ftp site, as found on ftp.tekwind.co.jp), using Filezilla. The app is set to use a single CPU core, the only core I don't use for GPU folding or for crunching, so it shouldn't affect either. It seems that if I download more than 5 files simultaneously, even though it only use less than 1% of the CPU, it slows GPU folding by over 20% after 30 minutes of downloading. Limit it to 5 downloads, and folding isn't affected. Grabbed over 40K files so far, with 6K to go. Taken over 36 hours, and it was 18 hours before I realised it was Filezilla that was affecting the GPU

I'll be setting up the Z97 system over the weekend, and testing it with a GT 720 (got three of then for testing motherboards and probably benching CPUs) before the second 1080 Ti arrives (it's being posted on Tuesday, should arrive by Thursday). So 3 more cores to crunch on, with the 4th for GPU folding. Don't think there's any point folding on the 720 for a few days

Probably going to put purchasing things for my collections on hold until I save for a Ryzen 9 system, which I hope will be early next year

I never bother with setting aside one core for GPU folding, I just let it carry on.. Can't say I've noticed anything bad as yet....

 

[mstenholm]

I never bother with setting aside one core for GPU folding, I just let it carry on.. Can't say I've noticed anything bad as yet....

That is a big mistake on Windows. You can get away with it on Linux but you do lose points there as well.

 

[phill]

That is a big mistake on Windows. You can get away with it on Linux but you do lose points there as well.

I've honestly never even noticed any points drop, what I get it what I get

 

[mstenholm]

I've honestly never even noticed any points drop, what I get it what I get

Fair enough, the job get done, just slower.

 

[phill]

Fair enough, the job get done, just slower.

Does it make minutes or hours difference @mstenholm ?