TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Trekkie4]

That would probably be QDI Advance 5, right? Great model, I even wrote a small review/overview (I guess you could call it that way) about a year ago.

As for the 440BX, getting it to work with Coppermine CPUs is indeed PITA, however .... 440BX is one of the best chipsets ever made, and is very reliable in the terms of performance, always a great choice for retro gamers and Slot-1 CPUs up to 500MHz.

 

[Bungz]

Yeah these era GPUs are usually the limiting factor so not a major pain.

550mhz Katmai is no souch and can be had cheap

 

[Ruru]

Is this too new hardware..? Well, isn't 2500K pretty nostalgic now?

edit: the case and PSU from stone age are just temporary, going to get a HTPC case and Seasonic Eco 430W.

 

[dorsetknob]

Well, isn't 2500K pretty nostalgic now?

no its still mainstream call it "retro Chic" if you must

 

[agent_x007]

My other Slot 1 440BX boards are pre coppermine jobs.

I think 440BX boards are the biggest headache going for trying to get later processors to work, even if you find a board which is happy to run them you often have a devils job of getting the later bios for it anyway! Oh and some boards have different versions so some are fine with coppermines some aren't under the same model number

And some boards (with little help), simply doesn't care

 

[Ruru]

How's that 9800XT so low-clocked? IIRC it should be 412/365

And damn, never had a Tualatin myself.

edit: oh, bios-modded card since it has only 128MB?

 

[agent_x007]

How's that 9800XT so low-clocked? IIRC it should be 412/365

And damn, never had a Tualatin myself.

I was using stock 9700 Pro cooling (black, single slot), it kept getting too hot for me

edit: oh, bios-modded card since it has only 128MB?

Exactly
That's not a 9800 XT, because they don't support AGP 3,3V.
Basicly : A 9800 Pro with 9800 XT BIOS (downclocked) and 9700 Pro cooling

 

[Bungz]

Nice.

Guessing a slot adapter with some form of voltage control?

 

[agent_x007]

Nice.
Guessing a slot adapter with some form of voltage control?

Not exactly... most adapters with Vcore control, can't go below 1,7V.
I use MS-6905 Master (LINK) + Moded Tualatin CPU (LINK)
Because Powerleap is overrated

 

[Bungz]

Very nice.

I have a couple of Tualatin boards so am not so desperate to try it but it does look fun taking a board that could be limited to say 600mhz to 1Ghz

Back on a slightly more modern theme

 

[Ruru]

I was using stock 9700 Pro cooling (black, single slot), it kept getting too hot for me
Exactly
That's not a 9800 XT, because they don't support AGP 3,3V.
Basicly : A 9800 Pro with 9800 XT BIOS (downclocked) and 9700 Pro cooling

Ah, so that explains things.

I remember 9700 Pro's cooler (my nick tells why it's such a familiar card ) and it sucked. And the GPU die was slightly lower than the shim, so I took the shim out with a knife and installed a Zalman VF700 cooler to it.

But yeah, I had also a 9800 Pro @ XT on my retro rig about 5 years ago, IIRC it had the stock cooler and I didn't dare to OC it at all, only @ XT clocks.

 

[agent_x007]

Very nice.
Back on a slightly more modern theme

Thanks
Here's my "more modern" setup (not completed yet) : LINK.
I heard rev. C0 Prescotts on PGA 478 are hot/power hungry when OC'ed... so I opted for overcompensating in cooling and VRM departments (a tiny bit) : LINK

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

Thanks
Here's my "more modern" setup (not completed yet) : LINK.
I heard rev. C0 Prescotts on PGA 478 are hot/power hungry when OC'ed... so I opted for overcompensating in cooling and VRM departments (a tiny bit) : LINK

Board? It has one of those sockets for auxiliary VRM daugther card right?

 

[agent_x007]

Indeed
Specs :
CPU : Pentium 4 3,2GHz "C0" SL7B8
MB : GA-8PENXP v1.0
RAM #1 : 2x1GB OC-WEAR PC3200/4000 BigTwins Ultra (500MHz @ 3.0-3-2-8 +2,7-2,75V).
RAM #2 (in transit) : 2x1GB Patriot PDC2G4000ELK (500MHz @ CL3.0-4-4-8)
Cooling :
Mugen 2 Rev. B with Delta FFB1212EHE fan (w/MX-2 paste).

 

[alucasa]

View attachment 87902 View attachment 87903 MSI KM4M and a WinFast K8S760MG-6LRS

I like what I see (the foot).

 

[Mr.Scott]

Because Powerleap is overrated

Not if you mod it.
or use a Lin Lin instead.

 

[Bungz]

Thanks
Here's my "more modern" setup (not completed yet) : LINK.
I heard rev. C0 Prescotts on PGA 478 are hot/power hungry when OC'ed... so I opted for overcompensating in cooling and VRM departments (a tiny bit) : LINK

Board? It has one of those sockets for auxiliary VRM daugther card right?

Awesome boards

Every inch of the pcb is covered in components.

 

[JunkBear]

I like what I see (the foot).

I wear 12 and 13 size shoes so as soon as i put down a caméra for picture they are in the shot.

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

Awesome boards

Every inch of the pcb is covered in components.

I never knew about this Gigabyte P4 Titan is it i875P?

 

[Bungz]

865PE

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-8PENXP-rev-1x#ov

 

[Trekkie4]

Here's something I'm working on... It's a Pentium 4 system for a family friend, an older gentleman who needs something to check his email, watch a YT video or two and maybe play Solitaire He owns a very old Apple system which is now seriously outdated (in fact, running at ONLY 550MHz I'd say that thing belongs to a museum, or at least this thread here, but that's a whole other story)

Sooo, I offered him something better. Remember that Asus P4P800-SE board, running P4 chip at 2.6GHz? Took me a while to set it up & get everything up & running, but it's mostly finished now & ready for its new owner. Or at least temporary one, as he might buy something better eventually, in which case I'll probably be seeing this one again at some point



Now, here's the problem I've ran into, while setting up Vista ... despite being way more faster & powerful than what MS recommended for Vista in their requirements, this thing ran terribly slow. YouTube wouldn't play properly, windows (and apps) took way too long to load up, etc. You get the picture, so I added more RAM. Upgraded from 1GB to 1.5. This made it somewhat faster, but the system STILL ran too slow, so I did something I don't like or normally approve - I OCed Pentium to 3GHz. That's 340MHz overclock gain, which is approx. the speed of a Pentium II! It seems to be running stable, but only after I raised the voltage to 1.60V... So now this thing is spewing out hot air & idling around 136F. Not good for the hardware inside the case I know, but TBH I didn't have much of a choice *shrug* Here's the 3DMark2001 result after the initial OC, as I managed to get the final result even higher, up to 5,100 3D marks


Full system specs:

Asus P4P800-SE, S478
Intel Pentium 4, 2.6GHz
2x 512MB DDR400/PC3200, 2x 256MB DDR400/PC3200 in dual-channel mode
ATI Radeon 9600Pro, 256MB AGP8x
Pinnacle analog TV tuner card (simply because it came with the case & old system inside it)
Western Digital 120GB ATA HDD
DVD-ROM, CD-RW & Floppy
400W Generic PSU
Windows Vista Ultimate, SP1

 

[Red_Machine]

No dude, not Vista. It runs like a dog on a Pentium 4, and needs 2GB+ to run smoothly. Plus it's no longer supported by Microsoft, so won't get updates anymore. Put Windows 7, or maybe Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 on it instead. It'll run much better.

 

[agent_x007]

To run internet and you tube, you need at least a Dual Core cpu with 2-4GB of RAM (depending on browser tabs), and a GPU capable of hardware video acceleretion.
Pentium 4 no/HT with 1,5GB of RAM is simply too slow for modern internet pages.

 

[Ruru]

Agree. I had an A64 3200+ @ 2.6GHz, 2GB & GF6800GT with Win7 SP1 and it was slow. I mean SLOW. I upgraded the CPU to A64 X2 3800+ @ 2.5GHz and things got muuuuuuuch smoother.

 

[Bungz]

The way I get older systems to play youtube is to run a addon like this

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/vlc-youtube-shortcut/

Right click a link and it plays in VLC.

You need to add the current youtube.lua for copy written stuff (this changes, sometimes stays same for ages then will need updating more often)

Allows me to play youtube on out dated firefox on very low end systems, can play 480 back no probs on old socket A systems and A64 and pentiums can play 720 no sweat.

Sucks how youtube is so bloated now, such a resource hog systems that used to be no issue to play video on now cant.

That said vista runs like a dog on anything other than a core duo and a shed load of memory imo. Not a bad os with decent hardware but not for that system.