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No dude, not Vista. It runs like a dog on a Pentium 4, and needs 2GB+ to run smoothly. Plus it's no longer supported by Microsoft, so won't get updates anymore. Put Windows 7, or maybe Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 on it instead. It'll run much better.

To run internet and you tube, you need at least a Dual Core cpu with 2-4GB of RAM (depending on browser tabs), and a GPU capable of hardware video acceleretion.
Pentium 4 no/HT with 1,5GB of RAM is simply too slow for modern internet pages.
Well, I considered Windows 7, mainly because I use it on my "daily runner" Q6600, but since I couldn't source anything better than Pentium 4 (which is the most powerful "spare" system available, at the moment), even Vista seemed out of the league so therefore Win7 would have been overkill right from the very beginning. On a side note, I forgot to mention something important - this Pentium 4 is a HT model, so it kinda helps with the overall performance. As for the updates, I really don't care about those ... TBH, I don't even update any of my systems on a regular basis, I find it useless & too distracting.

Agree. I had an A64 3200+ @ 2.6GHz, 2GB & GF6800GT with Win7 SP1 and it was slow. I mean SLOW. I upgraded the CPU to A64 X2 3800+ @ 2.5GHz and things got muuuuuuuch smoother.
My point exactly. I wanted to go with W7, but considering the performance & hardware specs it was either XP or Vista.

Sucks how youtube is so bloated now, such a resource hog systems that used to be no issue to play video on now cant.

That said vista runs like a dog on anything other than a core duo and a shed load of memory imo. Not a bad os with decent hardware but not for that system.
Yeah, I know... This is probably due to high resolution videos & amount of streaming data, which evolved over the years & outgrew the older hardware :( Interestingly enough, RAM doesn't seem to be an issue... Even on high load, during Firefox sessions and/or watching YT, it's only 3/4 full, sometimes even 1/2. It's the CPU that's slowing things down, which runs at 100% pretty much the whole time. Ever since I OCed the CPU, YouTube performance noticeably increased to the point where the video lags only once in a while, where running the system at factory clock resulted with continuous lag to the point where you can't really watch anything.
 
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Interesting to hear about the implied rarity of the Pentium 233 MMX. I bought one years ago for my FullYes i430vx board that (last time I tried) is still plodding on despite many years of abuse. It's got a K6/2 400 in it now but it registers as a 486 in the bios so it's probably not configured correctly. Anyway I think next time I blow the dust off it I'll be dropping the 233 in there.

There seems to be a bit of a spike in prices for hardware of this era as things like s3 virge graphics cards seem to be fetching tens of pounds on ebay whereas a few years ago you couldn't give those things away.
 
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Interesting to hear about the implied rarity of the Pentium 233 MMX. I bought one years ago for my FullYes i430vx board that (last time I tried) is still plodding on despite many years of abuse. It's got a K6/2 400 in it now but it registers as a 486 in the bios so it's probably not configured correctly. Anyway I think next time I blow the dust off it I'll be dropping the 233 in there.

There seems to be a bit of a spike in prices for hardware of this era as things like s3 virge graphics cards seem to be fetching tens of pounds on ebay whereas a few years ago you couldn't give those things away.
You probably didn't set the jumpers according to your new CPU, these older boards were completely manual, without the ability to adjust and automatically recognize the CPU clock & model. Google for PDF manual & see if you can work out the jumper config, this will probably fix the issue you're having :)
 

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these older boards were completely manual, without the ability to adjust and automatically recognize the CPU clock & model. Google for PDF manual & see if you can work out the jumper config, this will probably fix the issue you're having :)
most of these era jumpered motherboards usualy have settings silkscreened on the Board somewhere
you just need to look and then work out the Correct ( or overclock :)) jumper position
 
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most of these era jumpered motherboards usualy have settings silkscreened on the Board somewhere
you just need to look and then work out the Correct ( or overclock :)) jumper position
Good point, totally forgot about that :) Nevertheless, manual makes it easier to identify the exact jumper(s) for setting the multiplier & voltages, eliminating the risk of board (or CPU) damage.
 
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I never knew about this Gigabyte P4 Titan :eek: is it i875P?
Here are some scores from my PGA 478 w/P4EE (with slower RAM) : LINK.
Anyone with 875P chipset out there ?
Because I would like to check how my board compares againts it.
Thank you.
 
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Here are some scores from my PGA 478 w/P4EE (with slower RAM) : LINK.
Anyone with 875P chipset out there ?

Because I would like to check how my board compares againts it.
Thank you.

Here is a quick and dirty run of super pi 1M with my P4 2.6GHz NW @ 3.38GHz and P4C800-E. Bloated install of xp home 32 bit and no tweaks.
Might be able to do a better comparison later if you want. Don't have any gallatins though.

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Here are some scores from my PGA 478 w/P4EE (with slower RAM) : LINK.
Anyone with 875P chipset out there ?
Because I would like to check how my board compares againts it.
Thank you.

Look at my "Purple Haze" build in system specs :p Will bench that baby over the weekend!

This is from an old stock run:

http://hwbot.org/submission/3324820...um_4_extreme_edition_3.4ghz_(s478)_38sec_47ms

I remember benching it at 3825MHz!

Time to clean the dust of the mighty Purple Haze!
 
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Well, this turned out to be a disappointment... Was going to add a powerful 80x80 intake fan into that P4 system, I even had to take apart the front face plate & remove the hard drive, just to mount it across the metal frame, when I realized the fan isn't working. Then I plugged in another one & gave it a try, but still nothing! Apparently both "Power" and "System" fan headers are either deactivated or (most likely) shot & not working. And I really tried just about everything really, from resetting the CMOS back to factory settings to flashing the board with latest BIOS.

My thoughts are going back to the old case, where I found this Asus board... It had one of those cheap & fancy-looking LCD screen fan controllers, built into the case itself. So I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow damaged the circuitry! Considering the case itself didn't work (at least the power button assembly) along with the fact that integrated LCD screen was unplugged from the 12V supply, I'd say it's quite plausible.

So instead of using 3-pin header I had to "cheat" & go with molex adapter, which you can easily see behind the hard drive.
 
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1MB !!! memory upgrade :D - imagine THAT!!! :D HIGH END STUFF hmmmm SERIOUS BUSINESS :D
Awesome stuff!! Now you can go as high as 800x600 in 16bit color mode :D ;)

Edit
Correction, make that 1024x768!
 
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Hmm... I recognize Energy Star logo, so it must be monitor of some sort... Or maybe projector?
 
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Huh, so it has a light (LED) for the Energy Star logo?! Love the case though, reminds me of my old Pentium II! :)
 
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Huh, so it has a light (LED) for the Energy Star logo?! Love the case though, reminds me of my old Pentium II! :)
Looks like semi-transparent plastic allowing light through the logo to me. Recognized the older LEDS for power/hd from a older 486/586 case front panel.
 
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So, here's something you don't get to see every day... I'm about to donate some of the (retro) network equipment to a fellow forumer, from another (local) forum so I took these pics here :)

These are all Genius from what I can tell, some of which had never been used before. And since I really don't have any use for ISA ethernet cards (especially coaxial ones), I might as well give these to someone who actually has interest in collecting & using them...


Speaking of Genius products, I finally got around to replace my desktop speakers for something better. Bought them about a year ago, but had them inside the box until today! Don't think I have to point out the obvious lol, they really ARE impressive comparing to my old & tiny 2.5W ones!
 
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I have the card on the far right I think, it's all nasty and corroded though so not sure if it even works.
 
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I'm assuming you're referring to coax/RJ45 combo card? (6th pic) These ones are mostly preserved, but like I pointed out earlier, I have no idea if they work or not... I used one of these Genius cards for a 5x86 build just for fun, I remember how setting it up was a PITA, but in the end system recognized it, I even ran diagnostic utility program from the floppy disk... Not that I'm going to use it, but I want all my hardware to be operational & available at any moment.
 
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Don't know if it's been talked about before, the Asus CUSL2-C "Black Pearl"




It's a special edition board with a black PCB. Also came with a branded screwdriver and a collectible box. I kept the box for awhile, but eventually it became too worn to keep. Still have the screwdriver and manuals somewhere around here.

Had it paired with a Pentium III 650 at 866Mhz and single stick of PC133 512MB (the chipset maximum). I cursed Intel that day because the limitation was more political than technical in nature. DRAM prices were so low that 1.5GB of PC133 cost less than 128MB of RD-RAM, but you would need to use VIA and not Intel. For perspective: 128MB was minimum, 256MB was good, and 512MB was above the curve. So while 1.5GB RAM would have been god-like, many of us accepted the 512MB limitation as a compromise.

In other words, the prohibitive price of the i820 and VIA's instability made the i815/E/EP a favorite. Wasn't special on it's own, but simply had the fewest "cons".

So what's to like about this specific model over other i815 boards? Aside from the color, it's was purposely designed with no 3rd party on-board devices. It's AGP and 6 PCI slots (or 5 PCI + 1 CNR) were ample, and allowed the builder to choose every single part. I had a GeForce 3 in the first slot, two Intel NICs, sound card, Firewire controller, and an MPEG2 decoder. The decoder was a holdover from my older, less powerful system that couldn't decode DVD video on it's own. The Pentium III didn't have that problem, however, the decoder's S-Video output quality was so clean that I kept it installed for several years. Could play a DVD on the TV while playing Diablo II or Quake III with no slowdown.

Over the next couple years 3rd party controllers became less taboo and it wasn't that big of a deal to use some on-board devices. You only bought dedicated if it made a difference in your situation. So while the i815 platform was for the most part unremarkable, this particular board was a gem for picky builders at a time when it still mattered.
 
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It's a very nice board. I have the run of the mill puke brown CUSL2-C.
 
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