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Not only the same board was branded as EVGA too, and i think soemthing else as well.. And i dont see it to be very quality one too...


Damn 70$ Voodoo 5 5500....
 
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Scope this awesome comparison out! I think it's awesome!
 
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XGI Volari V8 for sure is interesting card, many did say is trash card, well is not very powerful, as it seems is silmiar to what ATi Rage Fury MaXX did, only 1 GPU working, not both as it should... Still the card seems with ok performance in the games, lacking performance in 3D marks and others. Seems no one did make proper dual GPU cards back in the days only 3Dfx seems did it right...
But after all was card made by SiS and some Trident engineers, you cant expect much from them anyway, i think they did ok.


Scope this awesome comparison out! I think it's awesome!

That card will fit very well on my dark set up, as i am looking for dual GPU for it, and the black PCB is best match, as Voodoo 5 5500 is green....

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Uploaded a neat little OpenGL feature test and benchmark app that I've had on disc for the longest time. Built by a few of the Evans & Sutherland guys in 1998. I've tested it to work with pretty much any OpenGL 1.1 hardware, might also work on 1.0. Appears to contain up to 1.2.2 feature extensions. Some compatibility issues with Rage 128 XP drivers but Win98SE should be good. Also not limited to Intel, I have this working on the K6-2/500.

Point the benchmark to a .txt file (I.E. C:\ESGLAZE\result.txt) and hit the button! In the file if you see repeating FPS (I.E. Preset 4 and Preset 5 reporting exactly 64.757342 FPS) the latter test was likely skipped due to driver/feature issue. I see it on some cards such as the IBM RC1000 based Diamond/S3 FireGLs.

Evans & Sutherland GLAZE v3.1

Couple different results from my testing; ATi Radeon SDR and 3DLabs Oxygen VX1

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Been using this for years and somebody mentioned that they couldn't find it anywhere. Turns out it didn't EXIST anywhere; nobody archived it.
I haven't seen it since my University of Utah days. E&S had a research lab on campus and they were always letting us "geeks" try stuff out. Good times...

You should have seen the VooDoo cards they made. Quad SLI on a single card with 48MB of VRAM for flight sim stuff. Two of those in a single Pentium Pro machine with 192MB of system ram. We ran Quake on one of them. Back then, getting above 100FPS at 1600x1200 in timedemo1 was simply amazing. Getting above 200FPS was unthinkable. That system? 213FPS. Our minds were blown... Oh and they were OCing that Pentium Pro to 266mhz. HUGE heatsink with a very loud fan to keep it cool, but it ran!
 
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Well yeah Evans & Sutherland cards are sick more sick then Quantum 3D...
That Voodoo I with 48MB for sure is rare AF, and very interesting...
Also quad Radeon 9800, Evans & Sutherland SimFUSION 6500q, never saw any ofe these cards in here, or to know someone to have them localy...

As you mentioned Pentium Pro, just cleaned 3 days ago my IBM PC 365, cleaned the mobo with water as was dirty, and now all drying..

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The quality of the parts on the IBM machines is amazing all caps Japan brands, only thing that sucks is the S3 card, that have some crap brand chinese caps...
 
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Well my IBM PC 365 is a happy machine. But for some reason the CPU does not seems happy it runs FK hot for some reason... Did change the CPU with the original one, cuz did think it may be issue from the new CPU nah... The system is dual socket 8, only 1 CPU is installed, as the VRM module is missing. So what it hink it happens is that when the machine is used with only 1 CPU it gets more voltage, then single socket 8 ones, and get more hot. Otherwise i just dont know what is wrong, as people with single socket 8 machines told me their machines are little warm after 1 hour of gaming on them WTF, while having only heatsink, no fans... Meanwhile my system have heatsink and a case fan that is near and blow air to it, and is hot to the point of burning fingers......

So if someone that have dual socket 8 machines with 1 CPU and no VRM can explain to me WTF is happening will be nice, as if i am wrong the machine will burn itself....
 
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But for some reason the CPU does not seems happy it runs FK hot for some reason...
They all ran hot back then. Came with the territory. Mount a fan(80mm with a passthru molex connector) on the heatsink and you should be good. Though it couldn't hurt to check the jumpers(dip switches maybe?) on the motherboard to verify that they are set for the correct voltage.
 
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Thought someone here might be interested.

He seems like a nice guy, been watching his videos for a while and now I'm on his discord channel.
 
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They all ran hot back then. Came with the territory. Mount a fan(80mm with a passthru molex connector) on the heatsink and you should be good. Though it couldn't hurt to check the jumpers(dip switches maybe?) on the motherboard to verify that they are set for the correct voltage.


Seems is ok to run hot as hell, just these 2 guys i did talk with they have single socket 8 with Pentium Pro 200Mhz machines told me that their CPUs have only heatsink no fan and did not get hot. Then i talked more with them, cuz was wodnering wtf, (also checked the switches was all set correctly for the proper CPU speed) and did seems their case fans was very powerful ones, that changed the things, as my fan on the case is Nidec is good fan, but for some reason it runs max with 200-300rpm lmao, did try the fan on fan controller with max speed and is the same, dont know what was IBM thinking adding fans that barely ever spin, the other quality fan of the PSU is Panasonic, same shit it barely rotates, maybe they did want the system to be quiet as possible, but then damn the 1.6GB WD Caviar is loud AF, no much point then.... Will just replace the case Nidec and add something with more RPM and see will that fix the hot burning Pentium Pro, or will need to add fan to the heatsink as well, as i like my computers to be loud and cool, after all preserving the parts/ computers is NO 1 priority for me...

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On other hand the S3 Virge 64+ did have garbage image OUTput, one of these cards that have small flickering/distortion on the screen, like is in the sea moving little, that is caused of the garbage caps on the card, used quality Diamond S3 and MatroX cards to confirm my suspicious, of the original IBM S3 being with garbage caps that make distortion, and i was right, not sure why IBM did not use better vendor for the S3 card.....


These garbage caps, shame on IBM, at least the mobo and the PSU have Japan ones..
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IBM Joke "Hey little Buddy" .... I have on my Compaq 486 Deskpro something similar, there is Train icon on one of the PCBs on that machine..
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This memory is interesting, the look on my face, when i did put 128MB modules of SDram in there, and nothing did happen, then i used this IBM memory on SDram mobo, and nothing happened there too, then i look more, and this is SDram slot EDO, now GL with finding big enough modules to get the total max of 512MB EDO (SDram) , but for the moment i will be happy even at double the current size of 130MB... Also GL finding the VRM for that machine to add second CPU as i dont buy/ sell in ebay..
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Found in my former Slot 1 system that i sended back to the boxes, as a guy give me 100$ for my ABIT BE6-II mobo and i did sell it, and found in the former HP case LiteON CD, added that to the IBM 365, great match with the LiteON PSU....
Also replaced the crappy SONY 3 inch fLoppy with Panasonic metal floppy, will do some more work on that socket 8 IBM to make it way better. I think i will replace the 1.6GB WD Caviar, it is workign still fine, but the damn noice it making it drills heads, installed Windows 98 on it, but cant stand that noice is just hell for ears....



Also hot lucky to find some not sure what it is spinn off branded IBM XT clone for just 25 euro, is more then what i did want to pay like 10-15 euro, but still that is also good price.. But wont be keeping this machine for my collection for sure, as i prefer only IBM XT machines, will just trade the XT machine for something cool or just sell ti for the right price.....

Not my pics, i am waiting delivery these days....
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Anything special or nah?>

The stock Voodoo V 5500 is 166MHz on both chipsets, so this is OC one, that is all, and stock is 64MB, this one is upgraded with double the memory to match the Voodoo V 6K. And the heatsinks are not the stock, but some bigger ones.......

Now what i think, well the price is no comment, sure he spended time to mode that Voodoo V 5500 to reach the same memory size as the 6K, and OC`ed or replaced the VSA-100 chips in order to get that 200MHz speed, still i think many ppl with sodlering skill can do that, and soem BIOS mods...
 
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This memory is interesting, the look on my face, when i did put 128MB modules of SDram in there, and nothing did happen, then i used this IBM memory on SDram mobo, and nothing happened there too, then i look more, and this is SDram slot EDO, now GL with finding big enough modules to get the total max of 512MB EDO (SDram) , but for the moment i will be happy even at double the current size of 130MB... Also GL finding the VRM for that machine to add second CPU as i dont buy/ sell in ebay..
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Even that it's in DIMM form factor, it's still EDO and has nothing to do with SDRAM. Those first DIMM motherboards supported both EDO and SDRAM, probably that's why there was also EDO in DIMM form factor.
 
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The stock Voodoo V 5500 is 166MHz on both chipsets, so this is OC one, that is all, and stock is 64MB, this one is upgraded with double the memory to match the Voodoo V 6K. And the heatsinks are not the stock, but some bigger ones.......

Now what i think, well the price is no comment, sure he spended time to mode that Voodoo V 5500 to reach the same memory size as the 6K, and OC`ed or replaced the VSA-100 chips in order to get that 200MHz speed, still i think many ppl with sodlering skill can do that, and soem BIOS mods...

heard more than 32MB per VSA-100 isn't a big benefit?
 
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Even that it's in DIMM form factor, it's still EDO and has nothing to do with SDRAM. Those first DIMM motherboards supported both EDO and SDRAM, probably that's why there was also EDO in DIMM form factor.

I did mean it have same slot and pins as SDram moduels, not that is SDram. At first i did think it is prob SDram some very early ones, now i know is some BS EDO memory made on SDram PCB and slot that is what it is....


heard more than 32MB per VSA-100 isn't a big benefit?

Who knows, but it should make the card better for more modern games, of the 2000-2004 era. Anywya i think modding Voodoo V 5500 with faster SDram modules will be more beneficial, and the VSA-100 chips to have 200Mhz clock speed, then the double vRAM size.. Still if i can get Voodoo V with faster clock speed, faster memory and more memory why not...
 

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I did mean it have same slot and pins as SDram moduels, not that is SDram. At first i did think it is prob SDram some very early ones, now i know is some BS EDO memory made on SDram PCB and slot that is what it is....
Yeah I read your post wrong, my bad :) but that's just DIMM module, not a "SDRAM module".
 
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Well thing is i did not know how is called, i know old EDO and FPM are SIMM, did not know for the newer onews, did look firstly to me like normal SDram so is why i called it that way...

Well whatever as i dont use ebay, who knows when i will find bigger DIMM EDO modules to upgrade the great IBM machine, and specially the damn VRM module for the second CPU... The fact IBM did not include the VRM in the first place on these machines sucks, sure every company do stuff like that to reduce costs but still.
 
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Got me one of these! Albeit not an oeltra but still frickin' AWESOME!

Impulse buy and totally untested! I'll find out later if it is alive. Now I just enjoy looking at it.

It will be restored to perfection. Then and only then I'll give it a spin and see if it is working. :D

The suspense is killing me. :D
 

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Got me one of these! Albeit not an oeltra but still frickin' AWESOME!

Impulse buy and totally untested! I'll find out later if it is alive. Now I just enjoy looking at it.

It will be restored to perfection. Then and only then I'll give it a spin and see if it is working. :D

The suspense is killing me. :D
That's gonna be pretty when it's all cleaned up!!
 
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