TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[QuietBob]

You may want to check if you can upgrade the processor to ZM-87 (see last screeshot)

67c at 15% CPU load seems high. What is your room temperature?

It's getting hot with a 82 as it is (I've copper shimmed it on the GPU and northbridge to prevent it from killing itself because of the crappy thermal pads HP has decided to stick in there) and I've seen one for sale with a 86, with the seller complaining it gets real hot (somewhere in the mid 80s to low 90s, and that's with new thermal paste!) and constantly restarts.

I agree that the S1g2 lineup is a blast furnace, but they can be tamed to some degree. Here's my 2.3 GHz ZM-85 idling with 26c ambient:

 

[delshay]

67c at 15% CPU load seems high. What is your room temperature?


I agree that the S1g2 lineup is a blast furnace, but they can be tamed to some degree. Here's my 2.3 GHz ZM-85 idling with 26c ambient:

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You worry too much. When the CPU hits around 84c it's starts to throttle. I have tested the CPU by covering the air vents & letting the CPU hit around 92c, it just throttles. Laptop will shut-down at around 94c.

I use Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste. I never changed the thermal pads, but next time I will to Fujipoly 17W m/k, I have lots of this stuff.

EDIT: My laptop was originally 2.0 or 2.2Ghz can't remember which one, but as you can see it's now 2.4GHz. Remember I use this for internet access , so I'm posting with it. (windows 10). ..I need the extra speed for YOUTUBE.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Not yet, I can wait for the public release.

The public release will have to be hacked to run on that machine as it doesn't meet Windows 11 requirements. The current beta builds however does run with only a slight alteration to the setup files. Let me know(PM) if you'd like to try it out and I'll help you with the proper install ISO.

Here's my 2.3 GHz ZM-85 idling with 26c ambient

That's impressive for a Turion! Voltage mod the bios maybe?

You worry too much.

To a degree(pun intended) he's right. 67C at 15% load is just a tad high, even for a Turion.

 

[QuietBob]

When the CPU hits around 84c it's starts to throttle. I have tested the CPU by covering the air vents & letting the CPU hit around 92c, it just throttles. Laptop will shut-down at around 94c.

Gotta love your nonchalant manner and the maverick way to test throttling behavior!

That's impressive for a Turion! Voltage mod the bios maybe?

I wish. Other than the usual fixes, I cut out the plastic grille obstructing the intake and affixed tall rubber feet. I think I showed this earlier:

Had to replace the battery after the original one died. The oversized pack props the rear even higher, also increasing airflow. Should've posted this in Ghetto Mods

 

[delshay]

Gotta love your nonchalant manner and the maverick way to test throttling behavior!



I wish. Other than the usual fixes, I cut out the plastic grille obstructing the intake and affixed tall rubber feet. I think I showed this earlier:

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Had to replace the battery after the original one died. The oversized pack props the rear even higher, also increasing airflow. Should've posted this in Ghetto Mods

I bought two ZM-87 about 8 years ago for next to nothing. I test to breaking point as I need to know what will happen when it overheats. I have many spare parts including spare laptop PCB. If the new CPU did not work so well, no problem, put the old one back, but I like dealing with problems when I make changes.

 

[Ruru]

Looks pretty familiar mod, my friend does that to almost every laptop I've seen him have.


Let's make a bootable XP USB stick as I already grabbed my AGP setup to the table. I'll do some Phenom II OC as well.

edit: Hmm, the other memory channel doesn't work. I'll try it later, I have also another 955 BE which I can try..

edit: I totally understand now why so many still loves X58. This could be a daily driver without any problems.

7970 not 100% stable at Matrix Platinum mem clocks so I had to decrease a little..

 

[MaxiPro800]

I have a 1156 doing nothing because I need bigger DDR3, and a decent PSU lmao. i3 540 that is, and the board isn't in the best shape (GB H55M-S2V with reset Management Engine AND two replaced MOSFETs that look a bit ugly). Not that the HD7870 I have looks any better but it's surprisingly working as intended, or at least I think it does.

 

[Ruru]

I have a 1156 doing nothing because I need bigger DDR3, and a decent PSU lmao. i3 540 that is, and the board isn't in the best shape (GB H55M-S2V with reset Management Engine AND two replaced MOSFETs that look a bit ugly). Not that the HD7870 I have looks any better but it's surprisingly working as intended, or at least I think it does.

I wish I had a 7870 but I have just a 7850 1GB lying around.. the thing is that I'll be building the first desktop PC for my twin little brothers as a birthday gift, but I don't have a better spare card than that 7850 1GB. Well, I guess it's better than nothing.

What's it gonna be? Well, a lightweight gaming PC

-Intel i3-8350K
-MSI Z370-A Pro
-12GB DDR4
-Powercolor HD 7850 1GB
-No SSD yet, I'll get one
-Kolink Inspire K7
-Kolink 600W
-Samsung 22" 1080p (no use for that so I give that too)

 

[MaxiPro800]

A few freebies I got, along with some rather uninteresting WLAN cards. No boards to test the P75 and QL-64 unfortunately, though I might have a 754 board for the ML-37.

 

[Ruru]

Oh great, managed to break a pin on R3E and now the board doesn't POST and the CPU LED stays on. From datasheet it seems to be a ground pin though. I'll try to straighten those up with extra care later, now I'm too pissed and posted elsewhere a thread for buying a X58 board.

Sucks to be broke, I'd get drunk otherwise as I'm pissed off right now for possibly losing that board.

edit: Probably getting a P6X58D-E with 18GB (3x4 + 3x2) RAM

 

[Robert B]

Fresh loot.

1. Super P4DCE+ Intel i860 chipset. https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/860/P4DCE_.cfm
2. ASUS A7V133-C + AMD Athlon 1GHz VIA KT133A https://soggi.org/motherboards/asus/A7V133-C.htm
3. ASUS A7N266-C + AXP Palomino 2000+ nForce 415-D Chipset plus extras: ACR-A6CH - 6 channel audio and PCI1394-S - firewire connection
4. ASUS A7N8X-X + AXP 2800+ nForce 2 400
5. SOYO 5TF2 - Sk. 7 + P133. Intel 430HX
6. Creative CT2890
7. Adaptec AHA-2940
8. Intel RC440BX + P2 350MHz - integrated Creative ES1371 + Riva 128ZX 8MB!
9. Foxconn Riva TNT2 32MB AGP BRD-05-E15 Rev.C + ATi Rage PRO Turbo AIW PCI + Tseng ET4000 ISA

 

[lexluthermiester]

1. Super P4DCE+ Intel i860 chipset.

With CPU's? If not, what are you going to go with? A pair of 1ghz P3s would do nicely.. Also, don't you have some other RDRAM DIMMs? IIRC you had a set of 512MB 800MHZ RDRAM sticks.

 

[Robert B]

The CPUs are still there. I don't know the model but I have a pair of 1.7GHz SL5TE XEONs if needed.

I didn't check them as I know from experience that if I try to pull them out now, I risk getting them out of the socket still glued to the heatsinks. I still need a beefy PSU until I start the beast. I'll put those babies at work and then I'll remove them.

I could heat the coolers with a hair dryer but I'll wait until I power it up.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The CPUs are still there. I don't know the model but I have a pair of 1.7GHz SL5TE XEONs if needed.

I didn't check them as I know from experience that if I try to pull them out now, I risk getting them out of the socket still glued to the heatsinks. I still need a beefy PSU until I start the beast. I'll put those babies at work and then I'll remove them.

I could heat the coolers with a hair dryer but I'll wait until I power it up.

Oh wow, that's a XEON board! It looks like a P3 board.. The 860i was the clue. Looked at the picture instead of the list. My bad..

 

[Ruru]

What's most interesting is that there's an AGP (Pro) slot in a server board like that. Also never seen a Thunderbird with that code (ASHHA) before.

Kinda jealous of that A7N8X-X

 

[Robert B]

3 Socket A Asus motherboards at a time and all of them quite desirable is quite uncommon to say the least. I grabbed them in the blink of an eye. Still untested though.

This year socket A is in. I bought quite a few socket A motherboards. These puppies do need a lot of space to store so that reorganization that I keep postponing is looming ever so close. In total I guess that I'm way over 75 motherboards. I still have space to store them as I don't keep them in my house.

 

[Ruru]

3 Socket A Asus motherboards at a time and all of them quite desirable is quite uncommon to say the least. I grabbed them in the blink of an eye. Still untested though.

This year socket A is in. I bought quite a few socket A motherboards. These puppies do need a lot of space to store so that reorganization that I keep postponing is looming ever so close. In total I guess that I'm way over 75 motherboards. I still have space to store them as I don't keep them in my house.

My Socket A boards are dead, dammit. I need to grab a "new" one sometime, probably something from the famous classics (like Abit NF7-S or AN7, A7N8X-X, Lanparty NFII etc)


Waiting for tomorrow so I can buy the i7-950/Asus P6X58D-E/18GB (3x4GB 1866 + 3x2 1600) DDR3 combo.

edit: Paid that

 

[Apocalypsee]

Gotta love your nonchalant manner and the maverick way to test throttling behavior!

I wish. Other than the usual fixes, I cut out the plastic grille obstructing the intake and affixed tall rubber feet. I think I showed this earlier:

Had to replace the battery after the original one died. The oversized pack props the rear even higher, also increasing airflow. Should've posted this in Ghetto Mods

For those who using later Turion can try k10stat to control voltages. If I recall correctly, I using it to control Athlon X2 QL-65. You can try this to undervolt it so it runs cooler and more efficient

Talking about laptops, I recently turn my wife laptop to Windows 7 retro gaming laptop. Its an HP-15 with AMD A10-9600P with dedicated R7-M340. Funny thing about this laptop, its integrated GPU is faster than its dedicated GPU. Still boggles my mind why HP did this. Still, if I run the CPU only and dedicated GPU its better because the CPU can boost properly without hitting the pathetic 15W TDP (I read HP actually limit to 12W because of cTDP). Another HP crapping on consumer, all its driver on their site is for Windows 10 only, I need to check the hardwareID for driver from other vendor/website

 

[QuietBob]

For those who using later Turion can try k10stat to control voltages. If I recall correctly, I using it to control Athlon X2 QL-65. You can try this to undervolt it so it runs cooler and more efficient

Talking about laptops, I recently turn my wife laptop to Windows 7 retro gaming laptop. Its an HP-15 with AMD A10-9600P with dedicated R7-M340. Funny thing about this laptop, its integrated GPU is faster than its dedicated GPU. Still boggles my mind why HP did this. Still, if I run the CPU only and dedicated GPU its better because the CPU can boost properly without hitting the pathetic 15W TDP (I read HP actually limit to 12W because of cTDP). Another HP crapping on consumer, all its driver on their site is for Windows 10 only, I need to check the hardwareID for driver from other vendor/website

What model is your laptop? You shouldn't have to extract device IDs from the drivers. Doesn't HP list the exact specs?

 

[F-Zero]

Hey guys ! Got myself an Asus V7700 Deluxe ( Geforce 2 GTS 32mb) delivered today.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hey guys ! Got myself an Asus V7700 Deluxe ( Geforce 2 GTS 32mb) delivered today.

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That thing looks like it in mint condition! Nice find! Where'd you get it from?

 

[F-Zero]

That thing looks like it in mint condition! Nice find! Where'd you get it from?

The seller was from Greece. He really took great care with everything !

 

[Ruru]

Hey guys ! Got myself an Asus V7700 Deluxe ( Geforce 2 GTS 32mb) delivered today.

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Oh fuck. So hard to say that do I love those oldschool GPU boxes more or than the mid-2000s sexy anime chick ones. Anyway, love that ur box is in so good condition!

 

[QuietBob]

Hey guys ! Got myself an Asus V7700 Deluxe ( Geforce 2 GTS 32mb)

Nice find! And still faster than my GF6100 in dx7

 

[Apocalypsee]

What model is your laptop? You shouldn't have to extract device IDs from the drivers. Doesn't HP list the exact specs?

Yes they have, its HP-15-ba010ax. Its easier for me to get the drivers that way, at least to me haha. Because sometime just downloading driver via its name doesn't work especially laptops with dual GPUs

Hey guys ! Got myself an Asus V7700 Deluxe ( Geforce 2 GTS 32mb) delivered today.

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Oh my God, these were my wet dream back then. Love the name GeForce 2 GTS. Sounds like a fast car Those are the cards that come with those 3D glasses? Man, super rare