TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[MaxiPro800]

That VT6308 chip - you could probably print out a sticker similar to PCChips saying "OmegaFirewire" or something cheesy like that

Anyways, just stumbled over my old Abit IP35 Pro that's had POST issues for longer than I can ever know. Might repair it just for the lulz and replace the P5E-VM DO if I get it to run perfectly stable.

 

[MachineLearning]

That VT6308 chip - you could probably print out a sticker similar to PCChips saying "OmegaFirewire" or something cheesy like that

Anyways, just stumbled over my old Abit IP35 Pro that's had POST issues for longer than I can ever know. Might repair it just for the lulz and replace the P5E-VM DO if I get it to run perfectly stable.

I've got two of those in case one breaks, that's how much I love that board. HWiNFO reads a stupid amount of (correct) voltages. 100% worth trying to get going. Small tip: If you're repasting / repadding, I would actually recommend using 1.0mm thermal pads on NB, SB, VRM, because some of those boards did not ship with a level heatsink assembly (i.e., NB makes full contact but not VRM, etc.). The thicker pad helps it apply more pressure, more evenly.

You can find the latest BIOS here, I know Abit ones can be tricky to find. That one supports E0 stepping which I've personally confirmed. For flashing, you can of course use DOS or uGuru in Windows.

Sauce

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

Those SpecTek kits will probably not be too good either, but the low-profile KVR Micron(it looks like) could be a diamond in the rough?

It does all appear to be Micron. It's a possibility it's Micron e die, which should be pretty decent.

Although it is reject, I have heard sometimes the SpecTek kits can overclock decently if you get lucky.

 

[Mr.Scott]

You can find the latest BIOS here, I know Abit ones can be tricky to find.

FWIW, I have the entire Abit db backed up here.

 

[Ruru]

Nice. I have 4x2GB ValueRAM DDR2, I thought that they were 533MHz but they're actually 800MHz. Now I have four similar modules and I can have 8GB of DDR2-800

Currently testing with Q9500 & HD 7850 1GB. Probably some benchmarks coming later.

 

[Greenslade]

Imagine cleaning this ancient PC .Gross.

Up date on my new computer 3020 mt all working fine ,updated the Bios very simple, from A07. to the latest 2019 one A20. I took one of my fave you tubers advice ,to try it before i cleaned out the dust to make sure it works.

cleaning them out side is a no brainer with all that dust ,yuk. Windows 10 pro all-ready activated. certanly a bargin for 30 pound s, when you consider it has a samsung evo 850 500gb which is worth that on its own , let alone getting the whole PC for that price

 

[stinger608]

Wow, here is a local listing on Craigslist:

Sony CPD-G400 19-inch Trinitron CRT Monitor - computer parts - by...

Here's a Sony CDP-G400 from 2000. It's in working condition, though a bit aged. The monitor is a 19-inch Trinitron CRT flat screen. Yes, it's the old-fashioned glass flat screen Sony was known for....

wyoming.craigslist.org

Sony CDP-G400

19" CRT flatscreen monitor!

Hell, I might just pick this up.


Here is another kick ass deal on a Lian Li Aluminum case:

Lian Li PC V1000b ATX Aluminum Mid Tower Case (Black) - computer...

For sale is a bit of personal computer history. This was my first PC case as a teenager, it is about 15 years old, but still able to hold a modern PC build. Case is made of aluminum painted black,...

fortcollins.craigslist.org

 

[Ruru]

Wow, here is a local listing on Craigslist:

Sony CPD-G400 19-inch Trinitron CRT Monitor - computer parts - by...

Here's a Sony CDP-G400 from 2000. It's in working condition, though a bit aged. The monitor is a 19-inch Trinitron CRT flat screen. Yes, it's the old-fashioned glass flat screen Sony was known for....

wyoming.craigslist.org

Sony CDP-G400

19" CRT flatscreen monitor!

Hell, I might just pick this up.


Here is another kick ass deal on a Lian Li Aluminum case:

Lian Li PC V1000b ATX Aluminum Mid Tower Case (Black) - computer...

For sale is a bit of personal computer history. This was my first PC case as a teenager, it is about 15 years old, but still able to hold a modern PC build. Case is made of aluminum painted black,...

fortcollins.craigslist.org

1600x1200 @ 87Hz, would be a great monitor for retro gaming rig. Also that inverted ATX LiLi case looks hella cool.

 

[Greenslade]

Wow, here is a local listing on Craigslist:

Sony CPD-G400 19-inch Trinitron CRT Monitor - computer parts - by...

Here's a Sony CDP-G400 from 2000. It's in working condition, though a bit aged. The monitor is a 19-inch Trinitron CRT flat screen. Yes, it's the old-fashioned glass flat screen Sony was known for....

wyoming.craigslist.org

Sony CDP-G400

19" CRT flatscreen monitor!

Hell, I might just pick this up.


Here is another kick ass deal on a Lian Li Aluminum case:

Lian Li PC V1000b ATX Aluminum Mid Tower Case (Black) - computer...

For sale is a bit of personal computer history. This was my first PC case as a teenager, it is about 15 years old, but still able to hold a modern PC build. Case is made of aluminum painted black,...

fortcollins.craigslist.org

That is a beast at 70lbs ? Thats a bargin at that price looking on eBay.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Scored these yesterday:

- Chaintech 5AGM2 mobo (Super Socket 7, VIA MVP3, unknown caps that surprisingly aren't bad yet.)
- Biostar M7MKA mobo (Slot A, AMD 751, yucky Choyo caps)
- Gigabyte 8IPE1000 rev 1 (Socket 478, 865PE, has a myriad of dead Nichicon HM caps dated 2003.)
- Gigabyte 7VAX (Skt 462, KT400, ripped AGP port)
- Dell Inspiron 1420 w/ C2D T5750
- Seagate ST31000524 HDD
- Galaxy S4 GT-i9505

 

[Greenslade]

I have just upgraded my CPU but when i turn it on the CPU makes noise ,i just touch the CPU fan and it goes quite, all thiugh the fan goes quite when Windows has loaded withour me touching fan.
.I losing the CPU screws ,did i put enough thermal paste on there? or do i need to tighten the screws on the fan?When i restart it makes a noise but for only a few seconds.It does start up without me touching the fan.I put the CPU that came out if my 3020 mt onto the 3020 sff if just makes a start up sound when it is powered up.I am pleased it has all gone well. All i need now is the 8 ro 24 lead which ordered from eBay so i can put a new PSU in it.

 

[Athlonite]

I have just upgraded my CPU but when i turn it on the CPU makes noise ,i just touch the CPU fan and it goes quite.I losing the CPU screws ,did i put enough thermal paste on there? or do i need to tighten the screws on the fan?When i restart it makes a noise but for only a few seconds.It does start up without me touching the fan.

most likely an insecure fan and it's vibrating try tightening the screws a bit more

 

[Greenslade]

most likely an insecure fan and it's vibrating try tightening the screws a bit more

Thanks for that ,it did not make any differerance I put my GPU in the PC unfortunatley one of the sata cabals came out of the socket.I tried to take the GPU out but the back part of it would not budge,it is a gtx 960.I had to get the video card out to give me more room to try and get the sata cabal back in the socket.I did not want to forve the GPU .

I can see the advantages of getting smaller cards.It seems to be solid on there,hope i have done no damage to the card.It came out easy in my other PC I will have yo wait ontil the 8 to 24 cabal comes later on on the week.And if all goes well i will have to get a Sata PCIe exspanzion card,as without the one i can,r conect i will only have twoThe nosie is only on start up.I can,t see how to get to the release leaver with thos card.

 

[Dinnercore]

The posts from @RyzenMaster.sys inspired me to test my 2GB DDR2 sticks. I wondered if I could get any decent frequency with a full 4x2GB config. I don't have many kits with that density in my collection for obvious reasons.
Board for today is the Asus P5Q-E. Ignore the date settings on those screenshots, I grew tired of setting it after a few CMOS resets.

First I tried my Geil Black Dragon Evo One. I have two 2x2GB kits rated @ DDR2-800 CL4 4-4-12 - 2.0V. Just searched the DDR2 Geil Evo One on ebay and I'm shocked to see how much people ask for them here.

Well, maybe its the look. In my opinion one of the best, if not THE best looking DDR2 kit.

They run fine at DDR2-800 CL4 but I was interested in max. frequency. They initially managed DDR2-1020 CL5 but failed the next step up. I bumped the voltage up to 2.1V and they ran 1040MHz.

An expected result, they don't scale much with voltage. The 1066 kits of the same series from Geil are rated 2.2V-2.4V, maybe my kit would hit that frequency in the same range. However I'm super cautious when it comes to DDR2 and voltage and I'd rather like to see these kits live another 10 years.

Another series of which I have a few 2GB sticks is the G.Skill PI-Series. I got two 2x2GB DDR2-1100 CL5 kits (rated 1.8V to 1.9V) and two 2x2GB DDR2-1200 CL5 kits (rated 2.1V). I focused on the latter, since I recently revived one of the sticks with a reflow and I wanted to try and get a full 8GB DDR2 running at 600MHz CL5.

I tried all I could on the P5Q-E but with 5-5-5-15 timings they refused to work beyond 500MHz. However increasing RAS to 18 and RFC to 65 they suddenly went to rated speed with just 2.0V. I wonder if they behave any different on my other P45 boards.

 

[Ruru]

The posts from @RyzenMaster.sys inspired me to test my 2GB DDR2 sticks. I wondered if I could get any decent frequency with a full 4x2GB config. I don't have many kits with that density in my collection for obvious reasons.
Board for today is the Asus P5Q-E. Ignore the date settings on those screenshots, I grew tired of setting it after a few CMOS resets.

First I tried my Geil Black Dragon Evo One. I have two 2x2GB kits rated @ DDR2-800 CL4 4-4-12 - 2.0V. Just searched the DDR2 Geil Evo One on ebay and I'm shocked to see how much people ask for them here.

Well, maybe its the look. In my opinion one of the best, if not THE best looking DDR2 kit.
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They run fine at DDR2-800 CL4 but I was interested in max. frequency. They initially managed DDR2-1020 CL5 but failed the next step up. I bumped the voltage up to 2.1V and they ran 1040MHz.

View attachment 239774

An expected result, they don't scale much with voltage. The 1066 kits of the same series from Geil are rated 2.2V-2.4V, maybe my kit would hit that frequency in the same range. However I'm super cautious when it comes to DDR2 and voltage and I'd rather like to see these kits live another 10 years.

Another series of which I have a few 2GB sticks is the G.Skill PI-Series. I got two 2x2GB DDR2-1100 CL5 kits (rated 1.8V to 1.9V) and two 2x2GB DDR2-1200 CL5 kits (rated 2.1V). I focused on the latter, since I recently revived one of the sticks with a reflow and I wanted to try and get a full 8GB DDR2 running at 600MHz CL5.

I tried all I could on the P5Q-E but with 5-5-5-15 timings they refused to work beyond 500MHz. However increasing RAS to 18 and RFC to 65 they suddenly went to rated speed with just 2.0V. I wonder if they behave any different on my other P45 boards.
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I agree on the looks. That's easily the best looking DDR2 I've ever seen. What cooling do you have with that E8500, custom loop?

edit: Bryan put a video of X58 and Xeon. I'll try his bios settings as I have the same motherboard on my X58 rig.

 

[Mr.Scott]

edit: Bryan put a video of X58 and Xeon. I'll try his bios settings as I have the same motherboard on my X58 rig.

Here comes a disaster.

 

[Dinnercore]

I agree on the looks. That's easily the best looking DDR2 I've ever seen. What cooling do you have with that E8500, custom loop?

Yes on this bench I usually use custom water. Currently have a single 420mm radiator in the loop, complete overkill. C2Ds are fine with a good air cooler too. My earlier screenshot of the DFI P45 JR was run with the Zalman CNPS 9900. It topped out at ~1,55V with the cores hitting 78°C. My water setup saw 61°C core temp at the same voltage (but a different CPU sample so not the best comparison).

 

[Ruru]

Yes on this bench I usually use custom water. Currently have a single 420mm radiator in the loop, complete overkill. C2Ds are fine with a good air cooler too. My earlier screenshot of the DFI P45 JR was run with the Zalman CNPS 9900. It topped out at ~1,55V with the cores hitting 78°C. My water setup saw 61°C core temp at the same voltage (but a different CPU sample so not the best comparison).

Sucks that I don't have a spare bench PSU, I could try an E8500 too. Also I don't know how my DDR2s overclock, so that could be a problem as I have only 533/667/800 modules.

 

[MachineLearning]

I agree on the looks. That's easily the best looking DDR2 I've ever seen. What cooling do you have with that E8500, custom loop?

edit: Bryan put a video of X58 and Xeon. I'll try his bios settings as I have the same motherboard on my X58 rig.

If you mean the settings @ 6:49, maybe don't bother...
Here's what I would change just in that screenshot, if you're wanting to OC on that board (I've got the same and the Premium):
- Extreme Phase -> Enabled
- Push DRAM frequency way higher than 1600 if you have a decent kit, even triple channel you can feasibly get 2000MHz+ with Westmere.
- I personally would set uncore to the lowest divider possible for the current DRAM divider, that's just me though. Helps me understand whether a RAM OC is limited by uncore or DRAM itself. 3000-3400MHz is good for daily, apparently you can get far higher (3800MHz+) if you're lucky. I've never pushed this to the max.
- QPI should be at the lowest divider (but not slow mode)
- I usually change "ASUS/3rd party UI priority" -> 3rd party but doesn't matter for OC.

Also I like to manually set voltages to their stock value if I'm not overvolting them, it prevents the motherboard from doing something I'm not aware of. In your case, the 20x multiplier is unfortunate but workable, on that board I've gotten up to 220MHz+ BCLK so you probably can max out your chip, or get pretty close. My Westmeres need 1.35-1.4v vCore for 4.4-4.5GHz and 1.325-1.375v QPI.

 

[Ruru]

Yeah, some of his settings looked that I'm not touching mine. I have 3x2 1600 + 3x4 1866 kits and I'm not taking the 6GB 1600 kit away if it doesn't OC decently. At least the RAM works fine at 1680.

I have Extreme Phase enabled, uncore 2x the RAM speed and QPI at the lowest setting. Testing stability now at 22x189

 

[MachineLearning]

Yeah, some of his settings looked that I'm not touching mine. I have 3x2 1600 + 3x4 1866 kits and I'm not taking the 6GB 1600 kit away if it doesn't OC decently. At least the RAM works fine at 1680.

I have Extreme Phase enabled, uncore 2x the RAM speed and QPI at the lowest setting. Testing stability now at 22x189

What cooler do you use?

If you're stable at 22x189, I wonder if throwing it right into 22x200 @ 1.375v would work.

 

[Ruru]

What cooler do you use?

If you're stable at 22x189, I wonder if throwing it right into 22x200 @ 1.375v would work.

Alphacool Eisbaer with 240x30 + 240x45 rads

 

[Greenslade]

I got it out but busterd the lever It seems solid ,will it be ok?

 

[Ruru]

I got it out but busterd the lever It seems solid ,will it be ok?

What's that, the PCIe locking mechanism? Actually I've broken that on purpose from few boards as it's hella annoying with some cards.

 

[Greenslade]

What's that, the PCIe locking mechanism? Actually I've broken that on purpose from few boards as it's hella annoying with some cards.

Yes it is The GPU come out of another PC with no trouble I got ir in my latest PC. The reason i tried to get it out was for the third Sata cablal . if i had smaller hands i might have been able to get it in in the socket.
With the card coming out i was able to do .It is in solid now.
So i want have trouble using it without it?.There was no way of geting it out anyway.