TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Greenslade]

All though i am of an age when i could have got one back in the day.I did not use a computer until 2005.This is my question ,if i got the c64 maxi could i use Amber Forever with it to get the full experience of that era ,is that posible?And why is there no option of Carousel on Amiga Forever.?.I am rather interested in floppy discs.I realise that you can,t put much stuff on them.The chance of me ever going that route are slim, so unless i could get a lot of them for next to nothing ,that would be out of the question.

 

[phill]

There's a fair few retro emulators to choose from, some aren't too badly priced I guess. All depends on what your looking to get from it or what your looking to play I guess

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

I need a nice case to make a high end PGA478 machine. I've had some parts for awhile.

MSI PT880 Neo MS-7008

Corsair XMS Platinum 2x1gb DDR-400 CL2
Crucial Ballistix Tracer LED 2x512mb DDR-500 CL2.5

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The XMS was purchased brand new sealed off of eBay just a few months ago. Don't know who buys ram and doesn't open it for 20 years. (And yes I know the ram is in the wrong spots, but it looks nicer that way for photos)

The CPU is a Northwoods Intel Pentium 4 2.8ghz. I'd like to upgrade it at some point.

I do have a full PGA478 machine currently. I paid like $10 for it originally and it was in horrible shape. All scuffed up, side panels didn't slide on and off properly. The more I looked at it, the more everything looked misaligned.

I pulled the front panel off and uh, horror insued.

Thing must have been thrown off of a cliff or something. The hardware was mostly unharmed but the optical drive was both bent and had a piece rattling around in it, so it doesn't work.

After a lot of bending, gluing, cleaning, dusting, and spray painting, I got it to look pretty good, at least from a few feet away.

Original it had a Celeron D, 256mb ram, no hard drive, and an Eagle PSU which I'm told is a rebrand of a Deer unit.


Now it has:
Intel Pentium 4 2.26ghz Northwoods
2x1gb DDR-400
MSI 845GVM-V
Seagate 40gb 7200RPM
VisionTek Radeon X1300 PCI
LiteOn 250w OEM

 

[Greenslade]

There's a fair few retro emulators to choose from, some aren't too badly priced I guess. All depends on what your looking to get from it or what your looking to play I guess

Yes i know.i have a PI4, I want the all round experabce as how it used to be back in the day.not just the games.I see that you can now use a mouse with the C64 now with the update.

. It looks cool using a Floppy Disk with the excellent LGR

I have just seen these in eBay New Sealed Pack of 20 Floppy Disks 1.44MB Pre-formatted High Density [UK Seller] 12 pounds.Plastic seal has come off slightly at the top but sealed at bottom - never used and as new.That is my sort of price .

This is the best review of it in my opion the C64 Maxie that is

 

[lexluthermiester]

New Sealed Pack of 20 Floppy Disks 1.44MB Pre-formatted High Density [UK Seller] 12 pounds.

Heck yeah! That's a good price! Snatch it up!

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

I have a USB floppy drive and a bunch of blank floppies that I forgot I had until those last couple posts. Not really sure what to do with them, but I have them for whatever reason. I also just bought a tablet with bluetooth keyboard and mouse for playing Quake while I am camping / fishing over LTE+ USB tethered to my phone. Maybe I'll throw the floppy drive and disks with it one day just to see if I get any reactions from passerby. Probably not lol I don't even know if I have any games on the floppies or not, it's been that long...some Jazz Jackrabbit or Duke Nukem out in the woods or at the river side could be interesting. Or maybe play some Alone in the Dark...alone in the dark...woods.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

I promise this is the last of the Latitude I'll post here for awhile. My repairs for now are finished.

The laptop now functions perfectly and has no major issues. The battery holds a charge, the screen is in perfect condition. It's very snappy on XP and with a modified version of 360 Extreme Explorer web browsing is even tolerable, assuming you don't have too high of expectations.

Spoiler: Summary of what I've done to it so far

• Throughly cleaned the laptop's interior and exterior using IPA
• Tightened hinge screws
• Replaced thermal paste
• Replaced CR2032 CMOS battery
• Replaced liquid damaged keyboard
• Installed a 240GB SSD
• Installed Windows XP SP3 32 bit
• Repaired damaged charger cord strain relief

Possible Future plans:

• Replace broken left screen hinge
• Replace worn trackpad
• Upgrade the T5500 to a faster C2d and upgrade the ram from 1.5gb to 4gb

 

[freeagent]

I have to come into this thread more often, you guys are awesome. So many goodies! I have some older stuff, I don’t know if 10 years is retro enough?

 

[Greenslade]

Heck yeah! That's a good price! Snatch it up!

I know you can,t get much on them.It would just be a novalty.I am thinking of getting the c64 maxi,The cheapest i can get a new floppy USB drive is 14 pounds from China.This is another of my fav utuber

only one of that lot worked out of all of them ,i want be buying seconrf hand ones after all thatthats for sire He tried instaling Windows 95 with 29 floppy discs ,with no success after a lot of time tryingAll that time he wastered trying to get it work.g.I take it i can only get one Game on eash disc.`?.Love his retro stuff whish is whaat he does all the time.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I promise this is the last of the Latitude I'll post here for awhile. My repairs for now are finished.
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The laptop now functions perfectly and has no major issues. The battery holds a charge, the screen is in perfect condition. It's very snappy on XP and with a modified version of 360 Extreme Explorer web browsing is even tolerable, assuming you don't have too high of expectations.

Spoiler: Summary of what I've done to it so far

• Throughly cleaned the laptop's interior and exterior using IPA
• Tightened hinge screws
• Replaced thermal paste
• Replaced CR2032 CMOS battery
• Replaced liquid damaged keyboard
• Installed a 240GB SSD
• Installed Windows XP SP3 32 bit
• Repaired damaged charger cord strain relief

Possible Future plans:

• Replace broken left screen hinge
• Replace worn trackpad
• Upgrade the T5500 to a faster C2d and upgrade the ram from 1.5gb to 4gb

Looks great! Are you going to run it as a retro XP build? Speaking from experience, Windows 11 will run on a mobile C2D and fairly well. If you're interested head over to the Windows 11 Discussion thread and we can help you get it installed and running.

 

[Greenslade]

Message above.

Looks great! Are you going to run it as a retro XP build? Speaking from experience, Windows 11 will run on a mobile C2D and fairly well. If you're interested head over to the Windows 11 Discussion thread and we can help you get it installed and running.

I was thinking of using them on XP .That is quite a Job to get Windows 11 on my PC ,that would be quite a job to do that for me.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

Looks great! Are you going to run it as a retro XP build? Speaking from experience, Windows 11 will run on a mobile C2D and fairly well. If you're interested head over to the Windows 11 Discussion thread and we can help you get it installed and running.

Retro XP laptop most likely. I already have a daily driver laptop and an assortment of XP desktops, but no laptops, so this is the first.

I might dual boot Windows 7 on it if I want to use it for any modern purpose.

I might put 11 on it just to see how it runs, but certainly not any more than for experimental purposes.My elitebook runs 11, and I was able to get it running on am2 athlon 64, so it should be very straightforward to get running on here using the same methods.

 

[phill]

Yes i know.i have a PI4, I want the all round experabce as how it used to be back in the day.not just the games.I see that you can now use a mouse with the C64 now with the update.

. It looks cool using a Floppy Disk with the excellent LGR

I have just seen these in eBay New Sealed Pack of 20 Floppy Disks 1.44MB Pre-formatted High Density [UK Seller] 12 pounds.Plastic seal has come off slightly at the top but sealed at bottom - never used and as new.That is my sort of price . View attachment 241932This is the best review of it in my opion the C64 Maxie that is

If you have the right Amiga external drive, it'll be able to format those to a HD density, 1.76MB rather than 1.44MB if my memory serves me correctly.... Nice find!!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Message above.


I was thinking of using them on XP .That is quite a Job to get Windows 11 on my PC ,that would be quite a job to do that for me.

Nah, it's easy. Just gotta do it the right way and Bob's your uncle.

I was able to get it running on am2 athlon 64, so it should be very straightforward to get running on here using the same methods.

True.

 

[Greenslade]

Heck yeah! That's a good price! Snatch it up!

It is yes Lex

Nah, it's easy. Just gotta do it the right way and Bob's your uncle.


True.

Evan if Bob,s not my uncle

 

[stinger608]

I have to come into this thread more often, you guys are awesome. So many goodies! I have some older stuff, I don’t know if 10 years is retro enough?

Hey man, if it's nostalgic for you, of course it's nostalgic enough for this thread.

 

[Dinnercore]

Here is a funny thing, has anyone ever encountered a CPU with broken multiplier? I have this E8500 I'm testing and it gave me a bunch of headaches until I figured one specific multiplier must be broken.

It boots and is benchstable for 8.5x @4.5GHz, it can run 9.5x @5.05GHz with high voltage but the 9.0x will never post. Instant hard lock on the board. First time in 50+ CPUs that I stumbled upon one like this.

 

[MachineLearning]

Here is a funny thing, has anyone ever encountered a CPU with broken multiplier? I have this E8500 I'm testing and it gave me a bunch of headaches until I figured one specific multiplier must be broken.

It boots and is benchstable for 8.5x @4.5GHz, it can run 9.5x @5.05GHz with high voltage but the 9.0x will never post. Instant hard lock on the board. First time in 50+ CPUs that I stumbled upon one like this.

I've not heard of that myself, but if all else is equal I'm not sure what else it could be. Does 8.0x work flawlessly? And even at like 200MHz FSB, 9.0x fails?

 

[oobymach]

I just rebooted my Mini Disc walkman, had to rebuild the ac adapter cable the original was crumbling to dust, installed XP on a virtual machine and can now use it again. Woot.

 

[QuietBob]

Nah, it's easy. Just gotta do it the right way and Bob's your uncle.

Evan if Bob,s not my uncle

I'm confused, am I supposed to be the uncle or not?
Guess we're all a big family here!

 

[Dinnercore]

I've not heard of that myself, but if all else is equal I'm not sure what else it could be. Does 8.0x work flawlessly? And even at like 200MHz FSB, 9.0x fails?

It does not make sense to me either, but it is the same at 500FSB, 450 etc.. I don't know which setting could even provoke this behavior if it is not the CPU. And yes, 8x is working, 7x too.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Here is a funny thing, has anyone ever encountered a CPU with broken multiplier? I have this E8500 I'm testing and it gave me a bunch of headaches until I figured one specific multiplier must be broken.

It boots and is benchstable for 8.5x @4.5GHz, it can run 9.5x @5.05GHz with high voltage but the 9.0x will never post. Instant hard lock on the board. First time in 50+ CPUs that I stumbled upon one like this.

Interesting. Have not heard of this since the socket A days when the 10x multi was a problem.

 

[68Olds]

Here is a funny thing, has anyone ever encountered a CPU with broken multiplier? I have this E8500 I'm testing and it gave me a bunch of headaches until I figured one specific multiplier must be broken.

It boots and is benchstable for 8.5x @4.5GHz, it can run 9.5x @5.05GHz with high voltage but the 9.0x will never post. Instant hard lock on the board. First time in 50+ CPUs that I stumbled upon one like this.

Are C1E/EIST disabled?

I had an odd occurrence with my AW8D & an E6600 years ago, 2007 to be specific. The CPUs default for me was 3.6Ghz @ 9x403Mhz, but I got into a competition to bench SuperPi at 3.2Ghz. Everyone had to run 8x400Mhz to level the field & find advantages with only tweaks, not CPU speed. My machine would not boot at 8x400, corrupted my 3 raptor RAID5 array & was generally being a pain in the ass. Turned out C1E/EIST were enabled from my 24/7 daily settings and that caused the problem. I had to search another forum to find the solution because I couldn't remember to the solution, only the problem. lol

 

[Dinnercore]

Are C1E/EIST disabled?

Yes they are disabled. So are all other options for the CPU like thermal protection, virtualization etc.. I still think it could also be some borderline stable subsetting on the MCH that I have running for SPI performance and maybe this specific multi is just enough to trip things over.
It is again one of the very low VID CPUs that won't even run with VTT at 1.2V or higher and this one needs a large CPU clock skew to get going. Maybe its the whole combination of things going on. When I'm done with my ambient results for a competition I'll dig back into the issue, right now I don't have the time to investigate further.

 

[Ruru]

Yes they are disabled. So are all other options for the CPU like thermal protection, virtualization etc.. I still think it could also be some borderline stable subsetting on the MCH that I have running for SPI performance and maybe this specific multi is just enough to trip things over.
It is again one of the very low VID CPUs that won't even run with VTT at 1.2V or higher and this one needs a large CPU clock skew to get going. Maybe its the whole combination of things going on. When I'm done with my ambient results for a competition I'll dig back into the issue, right now I don't have the time to investigate further.

What's CPU clock skew? I've left that always on auto when OC'ing 775 hardware.