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[TRWOV]

Yeah but rare are the 939 with ddr400 but AGP. If you find one tell me ..especially if micro atx

I think the Asrock 939A8X-M was the only mATX 939 4xDDR board with AGP, or at least that's the only one I found: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/green-tea-retro-amd-nvidia-build.161350/

 

[stinger608]

Don't know what you were thinking. Most all decent socket A boards had 4 slots. Unless you were talking about 754 maybe? I don't know of any 754 boards with 4 slots.

No was talking about Socket A boards. But that is what I was thinking also, most of the high end Socket A boards had 4 memory slots.

 

[JunkBear]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/brand-new-A...18031080?pt=AU_Components&hash=item48465b41e8

Ok but how can they charge 51$ Canadian for shipping when same weight would cost less from countries around Aussie?

 

[Mr.Scott]

No was talking about Socket A boards. But that is what I was thinking also, most of the high end Socket A boards had 4 memory slots.

I shouldn't have said most. There were a few with 4 slots.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Ok but how can they charge 51$ Canadian for shipping when same weight would cost less from countries around Aussie?

I can't tell you that. I just find the items.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Box of XP-M's. I'm pretty sure I have at least 1 of every one ever made.

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Random box of un-benched processors.

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GIMME! nice collection Scotty!

 

[Backfire]

@Mr. Scott, awsome boards! The best you can get for socket A.

 

[m1919]

Got a few new items in.

SGI M29A. Came with dual P3 Xeon 1Ghz, 1GB of of RD-RAM and a Quadro VR3.

MSI Master2-FAR, came with dual Opteron 275s. Will need to test this board before I figure out what to do with it. I've got a GTX 480 I was planning on running on a K8N-DL, but couldn't find a board for it. I may use that on this, but I'm thinking dual 9800GX2s might be more fun.

ATI 9800 Pro. This was originally for a Mac Pro G5, but I'm gonna try flashing this card with a PC bios.

Also playing around with my Dell Precision 620 board, still need to determine pinouts for the power connectors so I can use a standard ATX PSU with it when transplanting to a new case.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Got a few new items in.

SGI M29A. Came with dual P3 Xeon 1Ghz, 1GB of of RD-RAM and a Quadro VR3.

MSI Master2-FAR, came with dual Opteron 275s. Will need to test this board before I figure out what to do with it. I've got a GTX 480 I was planning on running on a K8N-DL, but couldn't find a board for it. I may use that on this, but I'm thinking dual 9800GX2s might be more fun.

ATI 9800 Pro

Also playing around with my Dell Precision 620 board, still need to determine pinouts for the power connectors so I can use a standard ATX PSU with it when transplanting to a new case.

i love you m1919 in a nostalg33k way off course

also i can get the leadtek card in the 1st pics ... let's see if i can manage to win it

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

I believe most socket a boards and the highend boards had three memory slots and some had 2. I know all the nf2 boards I owned from different manufacturers had only 3 slots.

 

[GreiverBlade]

woohoo ... both 9600GT defective, oh well refund asked... both had 1 burnt Mosfet and one card had a cracked Mosfet, the card with the cracked Mosfet also had a non working fan.... pfffffft if i don't get a reply mail with a "yes i refund you immediately" i will see with Ricardo.ch for the hard way... bahahah

the cards were stated as "used" not "defective" so the seller has to comply to my demand.
also even on the description pics the cards were not so dusty or in a sooooo lamentable state

 

[Random Murderer]

woohoo ... both 9600GT defective, oh well refund asked... both had 1 burnt Mosfet and one card had a cracked Mosfet, the card with the cracked Mosfet also had a non working fan.... pfffffft if i don't get a reply mail with a "yes i refund you immediately" i will see with Ricardo.ch for the hard way... bahahah

the cards were stated as "used" not "defective" so the seller has to comply to my demand.
also even on the description pics the cards were not so dusty or in a sooooo lamentable state
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9600GTs... burnt and cracked MOSFETs... even the solder joints look like they've been subjected to extreme heat...
How in the hell did he manage that? I didn't think those cores drew enough power, even under extreme overclock, to do that. And even still, did he put these under cold or something? WTF?
Definitely get your money back, man. That's some bull. Sorry that you got screwed.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Athlon XP received ... ok Denmark and France are the fastest for shipping followed by England then by China (whaaatt 0.81 cent µSD reader are cheap ... )

seems like its a Barton ... DAMN! AXDA2600DKV4D is Barton ... oh well nevermind, it's still the fastest of the 3 2600+ (Thorton/T-bred/Barton) but yet i will have to find a sample of each other cores, soon soon my precious ... *throat clearing*
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare_CPUs/AMD_AXDA2600DKV3C,AMD_AXDA2600DKV4D,AMD_AXDC2600DKV3C/


also got myself some shady gold thermal past from a chinese brand ... well they claim >2,0W/m-k. and 1g for 1.22chf is still better than 4.50chf for 0.5g from Spire (with a 2.8W/m-k)
http://www.ourgd.net/ oh well the syringe exterior was cold (really cold ...) when i took it out of the mailbox ... so it might be worth something to try on the DC7700 and then if it perform kinda good to good for the Opterons

 

[GreiverBlade]

i ... want to die ... actually my other Barton is a 2800+ i always thought it was a 2200+

so that 2600+ except being a cheap addition to my CPU collection and having a non green PCB is ... under my actual Athlon XP in my Nemesis build .... GAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
oh well time to clean the 2800+ put some new past and try to OC it above 2.25 ... which was his base speed in the end... unless the 2600+ OC a bit better than the 2800+

 

[Arjai]

Box of XP-M's. I'm pretty sure I have at least 1 of every one ever made.

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Random box of un-benched processors.

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Hmmm, I have a Socket A. And another on the way, Thanks @ThE_MaD_ShOt !!

I may want a couple more M chips, sometime in the future.

 

[stinger608]

i ... want to die ... actually my other Barton is a 2800+ i always thought it was a 2200+

so that 2600+ except being a cheap addition to my CPU collection and having a non green PCB is ... under my actual Athlon XP in my Nemesis build .... GAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
oh well time to clean the 2800+ put some new past and try to OC it above 2.25 ... which was his base speed in the end... unless the 2600+ OC a bit better than the 2800+
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Also, most of the 2800's that I have encountered will run 200 front side bus without issues. One that I have I actually had it stable at 212 front side.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Also, most of the 2800's that I have encountered will run 200 front side bus without issues. One that I have I actually had it stable at 212 front side.

Really? That's all? I average around 230 on most of my good processors.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Really? That's all? I average around 230 on most of my good processors.

mine doesn't even post when pushed past 184 ... so who care xD

 

[Mr.Scott]

mine doesn't even post when pushed past 184 ... so who care xD

I have some like that too.

 

[stinger608]

Really? That's all? I average around 230 on most of my good processors.

Could have been the motherboard I was using though. LOL

 

[GreiverBlade]

i might have a workaround ... sadly i don't think that idiotic seller will refund me but oh well for 20chf + 11chf shipping i think it would be not worth it to try to get it back via juridic ways

so i found this, and it's a seller i know and i already bought some item from him, all in flawless condition.

but i have to wait 2 weeks more before i can do anythings else in the field of buying stuff let's just hope he will wait a bit

 

[MaxiPro800]

After another time of inactivity,I'm back with a new system in progress:

ASUS P4P800-VM (with P4P800-SE BIOS which has OC features,we all know that -VM and -MX boards have NO OC features)
10GB HDD (I wanted a retro HDD,and it won't be a problem for a light Vista install,currently I use WinME because I had to experiment BIOSes from other P4P800 series boards)
896MB PC3200 RAM (I have no idea how I got to this amount of RAM,as I use a AGP card,so there's no shared memory)
Pentium 4 "Willamette" 1.7 GHz (I have 2 Celeron D processors but both suck,they heat up worser than my broken Xbox)
ATI Radeon VE 32MB video card (AGP)

And that's the config.I currently use a Xbox DVD drive (Samsung SDH-605B)for installing Windows,as the old DVD drive I had,I took it and installed it in my PC.

AFUDOS gave me some headaches in the start,as I forgot about the /n /pbnc switches in order to force flash a new ROM.
And to make a top of the 3 BIOS files I have handy and tested,here's the list:

1.P4P800 SE ver 1012.001 - by far best BIOS I've tried,OC features and also has a "Power Temperature"sensor,which actually works!
2.P4P800-VM ver 1018 - usual ASUS's work on uATX boards - no OC features and just RAM OC options,which I don't know why they even put them there.
3.P4P800-MX ver 1004 - EVEN MORE crippling,almost to basic features.

I also have the -X BIOS,but because ASUS made it only 384kb I can't flash it.
What also surprised me is that there are options for the onboard video,yet CPU-Upgrade doesn't say anything about onboard video on that board:
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/P4P800_SE.html

 

[TRWOV]

The good old P4P800-VM. I think that only a handful of mATX boards had 4 DDR slots. Worked out of the box with W7 x86.

I have one and managed to up the FSB to 225 using clockgen. P4 3.2C @ 3.6Ghz FTW! I used 4GB of OCZ Platinum EL 2.5-2-3-2.

didn't know that you could flash the SE bios on it, I might dust it off for another run

 

[MaxiPro800]

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The good old P4P800-VM. I think that only a handful of mATX boards had 4 DDR slots. Worked out of the box with W7 x86.

I have one and managed to up the FSB to 225 using clockgen. P4 3.2C @ 3.6Ghz FTW! I used 4GB of OCZ Platinum EL 2.5-2-3-2.

didn't know that you could flash the SE bios on it, I might dust it off for another run

You can flash the SE bios on it.The only thing that doesn't work is the onboard GPU,but that's why AGP cards exist.
I managed installing Windows 7 x86 too,and that with a Xbox drive.
I haven't tried the -E Deluxe BIOS (yet I'm not sure if it supports that one,due to the audio being 8 channel,while others are 6 channel)and the original non-E P4P800 Deluxe BIOS.
I'll try the original non-E P4P800 Deluxe BIOS right now and report back.

EDIT:Tried it,and it works fine.Updated through a old 4GB pendrive using AFUDOS v2.11.
You MUST use v2.11,else it won't work.
So,if you have a P4P800-VM then it's worth trying the non-E Deluxe BIOS or the SE BIOS.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Hey,I'm back.

I have succesfully flashed an EPoX EP-4PGM2I BIOS (also with oc features)on my P4P800-VM.
I used a new flash chip this time (PMC Pm49LF004T-33JCE,older one was the same but without the E)and used the ADSFI711.exe flasher (AMI flasher)with my main PC's mainboard (M2V-TVM).

Now,the good news is,I'm making a BIOS kit for the P4P800-VM with all the BIOSes that I've got to work,all relabeled for the P4P800-VM,including the EPoX Award BIOS (includes a nice temp monitor during POST)that I use right now.

For now I tested the BIOSes only on the PMC BIOS chip,but I think it should work on anything that is NOT SST.I've tried flashing on SST and I didn't have any success,but the PMC chip worked amazingly fine.

Right now,the config is like this:

ASUS P4P800-VM w/EPoX EP-4PGM2I BIOS (Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG)
1GB PC3200 RAM
10GB Seagate HDD w W7 x86
Pentium 4 1.7GHz "Willamette"
ATI Radeon 7000 32MB AGP
400W Delux PSU.

EDIT:Alright,made the kit. Here's the file,includes all "OC Capable"BIOSes for the P4P800-VM.