TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

phill · Dec 5, 2020

Well guys since everyone is posting some awesome hardware pics, I hope this is the place to share these....

I hope that there's something good there

Ruru · Dec 5, 2020

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Well guys since everyone is posting some awesome hardware pics, I hope this is the place to share these....

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I hope that there's something good there

Christmas came early there too, it seems... damn :3

QuietBob · Dec 5, 2020

Mr.Scott said:
FX 5200 LE 64 bit model if you can find one.

1.0 Gpix/s seems about right for my project. Let's see if I can find something slower still

phill said:
I hope that there's something good there

That Asrock K8NF4G-SATA2 is Socket 754? Well that just gives me an idea. Need to check the specs.

68Olds · Dec 5, 2020

I found my Celeron D, it is the 3.2GHz 352. You're looking for a slower model, correct?

That Asrock K8NF4G-SATA2 only has PCI & PCI-e, no AGP. I'm sure you could find something to experiment with though.

biffzinker · Dec 6, 2020

@QuietBob
Would one of the L2 cache crippled (128KB) Celeron P4 (Willamete/Northwood) run Windows 10 64-bit?

https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Celeron/TYPE-Celeron%20(Willamette).html

Edit: Those Celerons are limited to 32-bit, the only ones to get 64-bit was the Prescott Celeron.

68Olds said:
I found my Celeron D, it is the 3.2GHz 352.

That’s a Prescott Celeron, supposedly one of the most hated CPUs? I would of thought the Celeron Willamette or Northwood being L2 Cache limited was the most hated.

OrlyP · Dec 6, 2020

How about a 12 y/o case that's still in use?

Gigabyte iSolo 210 from 2008... the Core 2 era. I built my first LGA775 here but it's now home to my Ryzen 5 3600.

It's getting a little long in the tooth but I've always been a function-over-form kind of guy. TPU ran a review of this case 13 years ago, which then led to my purchasing it a year later.

I like my case boxy with sharp corners that can maim anyone who touch it the wrong way.

QuietBob · Dec 6, 2020

68Olds said:
I found my Celeron D, it is the 3.2GHz 352. You're looking for a slower model, correct?

Thank you for checking it! Yes, I'm after the slowest 2.53 GHz Prescott Celeron.

biffzinker said:
the only ones to get 64-bit was the Prescott Celeron.

Thanks for the research. As I understand, the slowest 64-bit desktop CPU from Intel was the Celeron D 326.

As for storage, this 5,400 rpm laptop HDD is the slowest I have on hand:

Minimum Win7 requirements call for 20 GB disk space. Does anybody have a small enough drive & could benchmark it for reference? I'm curious how much slower it would be

MaxiPro800 · Dec 6, 2020

Guess this is the right place to post these as well:

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2x PS3 - CECHG04 and CECHC03
440LX Pentium II 266MHz AT build
EPox based Athlon XP build (w/ Ryzen 7 sticker :laugh:

)

68Olds · Dec 6, 2020

biffzinker said:
@QuietBob
Would one of the L2 cache crippled (128KB) Celeron P4 (Willamete/Northwood) run Windows 10 64-bit?

https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Celeron/TYPE-Celeron%20(Willamette).html

Edit: Those Celerons are limited to 32-bit, the only ones to get 64-bit was the Prescott Celeron.

That’s a Prescott Celeron, supposedly one of the most hated CPUs? I would of thought the Celeron Willamette or Northwood being L2 Cache limited was the most hated.

This Celeron is a Cedarmill, not a Prescott. It's on the 65nm process which is the same as gen 1 Core2 Duo. It should overclock like mad!
I think Celeron D's problem was Intel's screwy naming. I believe lots of people though they were getting a dual core CPU (because of the D) & were not happy once they got their Gateway, Compaq, HP, or Dell home. The Willamette P4 & Celeron weren't around long enough to be come most hated. Intel figured that mistake out pretty quickly. lol

phill · Dec 6, 2020

Chloe Price said:
Christmas came early there too, it seems... damn :3

I've treated myself a little too much recently but I have a few more things on the way and that's it for me... I hope to post up some more pics when I can get everything sorted out

I do however need to try and get a little bit of help with a few PSUs for the older kit, I don't wish to use my 850W P2 to test things if I'm going to kill hardware!! I'd rather just check things out first and then get things if I need to rather than kill the kit...

Ruru · Dec 6, 2020

phill said:
I've treated myself a little too much recently but I have a few more things on the way and that's it for me... I hope to post up some more pics when I can get everything sorted out

I do however need to try and get a little bit of help with a few PSUs for the older kit, I don't wish to use my 850W P2 to test things if I'm going to kill hardware!! I'd rather just check things out first and then get things if I need to rather than kill the kit...

I got a Nexus RX-8500 rev2 for 25EUR + shipping which was pretty cheap and it does its job perfectly for benchmarking. :toast:

Also I got two crappy PSUs for something older light-load usage.

QuietBob · Dec 6, 2020

68Olds said:
I think Celeron D's problem was Intel's screwy naming.

That and the increased heat output compared to the previous gen, even though Prescott was on a smaller node. In the times when an all-copper cooler with a 60mm fan was considered high-end.

Ruru · Dec 6, 2020

68Olds said:
I think Celeron D's problem was Intel's screwy naming. I believe lots of people though they were getting a dual core CPU (because of the D)

Tho they were released in 2004 as Pentium Ds came in 2005. It was more like D for desktop and M for mobile I guess.

But yeah a normal consumer probably thought exactly like you said.

Apocalypsee · Dec 8, 2020

A little update on my dead socket, its very weird, when the board finally detect the CPU it will run fine for a while, I could reassemble the heatsink and system back, restart, shut down and do whatever but as soon as I unplugged/turn off the wall plug the next time it boots it will give code 00 error again :confused:

I have second mobo but that one don't have PCI slot for my Audigy 2 ZS and only one channel of its RAM working, and more unfortunate its in my parents home some 400km away

F-Zero · Dec 8, 2020

Hey guys ! Something new in the mail today

QuietBob · Dec 8, 2020

In my ongoing search for the slowest DX9 GPU I learned a few things. Thought I'd share some of this retro nerdiness with my fellow geeks

Technically speaking, Win7 requires hardware support for Pixel Shader 2.0. Driver-side, it requests support for WDDM 1.0, a feature set first introduced in Vista. So, for my "Win7 min spec" project I figured I'd go for the slowest GPU in terms of pixel fillrate, with a Win7/Vista driver. Going by these criteria, here are my finds:

PCIe
NV GF 6200 LE (2005)
ATI Radeon HD 2350 (2007)
ATI Radeon X300SE (2004) - Vista driver
ATI Radeon X300SE HyperMemory (2005) - Vista driver

AGP
NV GF 6200 LE (2005)
ATI Radeon HD 2350 (2007)
ATI Radeon 9550SE (2004) - Vista driver

IGP
NV GF 6100 (2005)
NV GF 6150LE (2006)
ATI Radeon Xpress 2100 (2008)
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (2004) - Vista driver
ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 (2005) - Vista driver
Intel GMA 950 (2006)

I'll see which I can source locally

F-Zero said:
Hey guys ! Something new in the mail today

Tight fit with that Zalman! I dig the color scheme - now all you need is orange/amber RAM heat spreaders

Mr.Scott · Dec 9, 2020

QuietBob said:
Tight fit with that Zalman! I dig the color scheme - now all you need is orange/amber RAM heat spreaders

Closest you'll get to that is a set of old school Ballistix.

Robert Bourgoin · Dec 9, 2020

A blast from the past my Abit NFS-V2.0 with the reverse wire trick using conductive paste, still holding, home made heatsink, some good old Muskin BH-5
runs!

Ruru · Dec 9, 2020

The MSI K9N NeoV2 & Asus P5B-VM seem to be alive. The MSI needs to have its BIOS flashed via DOS tho and I need to recheck how its done via USB stick as I can't remember.

Jetster · Dec 10, 2020

Loaded up some BF2 on my AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and Nvidia 8800 GTX
Had to install XP SP2 than updated to SP3. To many software problems with 7
Runs smoth, I forgot how much fun this game was. Nobody online though
Took two hours to figure out a wireless problem. Do not miss how slow these were to configure

Ruru · Dec 10, 2020

Jetster said:
Loaded up some BF2 on my AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and Nvidia 8800 GTX
Had to install XP SP2 than updated to SP3. To many software problems with 7
Runs smoth, I forgot how much fun this game was. Nobody online though
Took two hours to figure out a wireless problem. Do not miss how slow these were to configure

I remember my friend buying BF2 only to see how his 6800 GT AGP performs when he bought the card in 2005. :laugh:

Jetster · Dec 10, 2020

Chloe Price said:
I remember my friend buying BF2 only to see how his 6800 GT AGP performs when he bought the card in 2005.

I had that card. Loved it

I remember my first real gaming card. I went from a FX5200 to a Nvidia 6600GT

Ruru · Dec 12, 2020

Put a temporary HTPC together from junk parts.

Xeon X3230 (similar to Q6700), Asus P5QL Pro, 6GB DDR2-800, Radeon HD 6870, USB3.0 card, 120GB SSD + 4 HDDs, DVD-ROM

hat · Dec 12, 2020

Jetster said:
Nobody online though

That's because Gamespy? or whatever service ran the master server is dead.

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QuietBob · Dec 13, 2020

Ladies and gentlemen! In the main event tonight, the match for the title of the slowest 64-bit CPU!
In the blue corner, weighing in at 2.53 GHz, the mighty Intel Celeron D 326:

And in the red corner, weighing in at 1.4 GHz, the stout AMD Sempron 2500+:

In the undercard, the match for the title of the slowest DX9 GPU!
In the green corner, with a reach of 0.85 Gpix/s, the nimble Nvidia GeForce 6100 IGP:

And in the ruby corner, with a reach of 0.6 Gpix/s, the fleet ATI Radeon Xpress 200 IGP:

This is gonna be fun :roll:

EDIT: Colored the contenders, duh.

Robert Bourgoin said:
my Abit NFS-V2.0 with the home made heatsink

I see what you did there

Jetster said:
Runs smoth, I forgot how much fun this game was. Nobody online though

Have you tried BF2Hub?

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