TPU's Space Sims Appreciation Thread

[Hellfire]

It is based on a F2P model so I assume it'll be much like WoT in the fact it is planned as 5v5 etc.

 

[Conti027]

I got to play Dreadnought at PAX and I didn't enjoy it much. I really want to like it cause it looks awesome and could be awesome but it just feels like a TF2 rip off but with ships.
Its still in early development so we'll see how it turns out and its a free to play so no reason not to try it.

 

[Ahhzz]

I got to play Dreadnought at PAX and I didn't enjoy it much. I really want to like it cause it looks awesome and could be awesome but it just feels like a TF2 rip off but with ships.
Its still in early development so we'll see how it turns out and its a free to play so no reason not to try it.

this.....

 

[Kursah]

I haven't been too impressed with SC's handling lately..but Elite is feeling really good to me thus far. Both are good, but I find myself more interested in Elite...though I also have about 1-2hrs/week to play video games atm...and Elite is easier for me to get in and go. Even on the laptop.

Evo Merc is still awesome...going to start doing MP with that soon I think. I started doing races again..need to keep practicing my sliding. Haven't tried races in SC...but have read that Erocker was killing it in the SC thread. Utlimately though, right now I find the most enjoyment out of Elite's beta. Looking forward to a very bright future in space flight sim-dom.

 

[Champ]

The one thing I like about these space sims, is the fact that it puts this hardware we pay good money for to use. Gotta separate ourselves from the console peasants

 

[remixedcat]

this will really get you into kerbel space program:

 

[Kursah]

Well I do own it...though I got it for the kid and slapped it on his account. hmmmm... might grab another copy on a steam sale! I need to try out Space Engineers too...

I played a little Elite and EvoMerc last night...they are so much fun! I'm also making my control schemes as similar as possible so I don't have to retrain my control scheme for each game.

 

[Conti027]

I'm excited for Elite Beta 2 next week on the 30th.

http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=dcbf6b86b4b0c7d1c21b73b1e&id=e676783725&e=8855f3ff6f

 

[Hellfire]

So I got to play Elite at EGX this weekend, amazingly good. I didn't get chance to try it with Occulus though.

However I did get to try EvE Valykrie on occulus and it blew my mind away. After the disappointment of trying war thunder on OR this made me want it. It was smooth and perfect, for moments I moved as if I was in the cockpit.

new game in progress, I heard about it on The Mighty Jingles YouTube channel but no site or details yet. Its made by the creators of Strike Suit Zero and it is WoT in space, working title is world of spaceships but will be changed to fractured space or something like that.

 

[remixedcat]

My hubby's streaming kerbel space program right now! http://www.hitbox.tv/badashgames go watch live!

 

[Champ]

I think with more funding Dangerous could give SC a run although I hear they are different genre space sims

 

[Ahhzz]

They really are. Elite will definitely be more about trading than the SC universe, at its core anyway. But I'm looking forward to playing both

 

[erocker]

Latest beta for Elite is excellent.. when the servers are working. I'm loving the exploration of finding stars, planets and other stuff. I'm in a hauler just trying to make my way to the other side of the "pill".

 

[Kursah]

Elite is sure making it tough to stay focused on that 4.0 this semester...

Granted I have very limited time to play...but this plays so damn well on both my main gaming rig and school laptop, and anyone that is an EvoMerc fan will likely find this to be a great step forward in Space Sims.

This is a good video doing a comparison of current SC and Elite betas, both are really shaping up to be amazingly great. Now...where can I find a way to have 48-hour days....hmmm...

 

[erocker]

Star Citizen isn't close to being in Beta yet. It's also probably about two years out. Not the best video.

 

[Kursah]

I agree with a few of his statements for those that want to play now.. Elite is the way to go imho. I also agree that any Space Sim fan should own both as each is or will be a unique and excellent experience. I thought it covered where each is at, at this point quite well for a brief comparison.

 

[ShiBDiB]

Looking for something to fill my eve and x3 need. Not sure either elite or sc are or ever will but one can home.

 

[Kursah]

I have 0 experience with EVE, and never really got into X3, though I have made several attempts...I hate the flight model. What you were able to do within X3 was pretty amazing. If you like empire control, maybe try a strategy game by the name of Distant Worlds... it's truly amazing and awe-inspiring scope, there's nothing else like it today. The battles are meh compared to the likes of Homeworld and Sins...but everything about it exudes detail, details and more details.

Evochron is awesome, but lacking life...activity...unless you play online...then it comes into its own. But the economy is nothing like X3.

I think Elite would be a good option if you like economy...but even that is nothing compared to what I've seen in X3. SC has so much more coming, I don't even keep track of the promise list anymore...I am excited as I own both, and prefer the pilot, dogfighting-side of things. I would give anything to have more time to be able to play... after I graduate this next spring...I'm taking some well deserved time off!

As it stands now...when I do make a free half hour-ish to game... between Evo Merc, SC, and Elite... I'm playing Elite. For me, it's the most fun.. it plays quite well on my laptop too, and looks amazing. SC looks amazing too...the more they bring Cryengine 3 into its own...the more shock and awe and the more my poor GTX 770 screams! I'm hoping it'll make it to the 1000-series NV, or better.

 

[Kursah]

Exciting last couple of days... Elite dropped Beta 3.0 and is now on update 3.03. Plays GREAT on my laptop with HIGH settings and looks amazing...with SMAA and 1080 resolution. I'm beyond impressed! Having more fun with it using my KB + mouse on my laptop too...still prefer the logitech for most of it...though I do like the mouse-look option...feel it is somewhat useful at times. The new beta and patches introduce some new things and break some other things...if these guys are going to do an official release before the year is up...they have A LOT to do very quickly. I am hoping for delays in all honesty...I'd rather see a gem released that is faceted into a priceless timepiece.

And now Arena Commander .9.2 . Downloading on the PC and going to give it a shot on the laptop. The last update killed the game on the Dell lappy of mine. I'm really hoping to get this working as well. Plays great on the PC... intro load times still pretty damn long but there's a lot to this game and they are really making the CryEngine 3 work and look quite amazing. Hoping to see more open up soon...though I still need to master the piloting in this game..it has been getting neglected due to me enjoying Elite Beta more ATM.

I am keeping my fingers crossed that I can get SC to play nicer with my laptop. Looking forward to finding time to play both.

Who's experiencing these? One or both? Thoughts with these updates?

 

[droopyRO]

What about singleplayer campaigns i heard that Star Citizen will have a very short one, what about Elite ? 10q

 

[Kursah]

Elite will have a story-mode as well.

Frontier: First Encounters did have an in-game storyline centered around the Thargoids alien encounter that you could follow if you chose to do so.
The story wasn't explicitly told with traditional cut-scenes, but unfolded from a first person perspective with the help of news events and corresponding missions.
Elite: Dangerous will continue with that style of storytelling and is set 45 years after the events of Frontier: First Encounters, in the year 3300 and the Thargoids will make a return. It will feature more dynamic events, available from newsfeeds within the game or outside, based on both developer injected and dynamic procedural stories and missions.
The game will also have more than 13 official book tie-ins to tell different stories about Elite universe, with lots of places, events and people referenced in the game.

Source: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Elite:_Dangerous_FAQ

I really like what Elite has to offer so far, it has been a fun ride through beta. Going to go play some after this post.

I was able to finally try SC on my laptop, and it runs OK. I was able to achieve mostly good results dropping to 1600x900, running medium or low graphics settings...I stuck to medium as Vanduul Swarm plays mostly pretty nice. But even in low this game has pretty good visuals. Shame I can't run 1080 though, this game looks better at higher resolutions...I can only imagine 4k!!! Thankfully my other 2, EvoMerc and E beta play at 1080p with high settings and play smooth and look great as well.

I must say that SC playing on this laptop is a testament to their attention to the game engine and tuning it. I'm impressed so far! And this last update to AC makes the flying feel more engaging to me, more fun...I just don't like how the roll and yaw are reversed on the controls at default and a few other control scheme bugs. Overall, I am sitting fat and happy with owning SC, E, and EvoMerc. Making time today to play them!

 

[Kursah]

Anyone seen the video here:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/watch-the-making-of-space-sim-elite-dangerous/1100-6423324/

It's a 15 minute interview with Braben and Co. about making Elite Dangerous.

Can't say I'm all that excited for SC's FPS module...looking more forward to the Squadron 44 and Perpetual Universe modules honestly. Though I will give SC's 0 Grav FPS demo a nod....but honestly I have burnt out of FPS beyond the occasional Borderlands series runs for something fun. Though it could be interesting to have small firefights in tight quarters during ship boarding or station boarding for larger examples like shown on the video from PAX.

What will the future have in store for these two as the holiday season nears eh? It doesn't matter as both seem to be improving in their respective visions, and I wish oh so badly I had more time to play and needed less time for my studies! GAH!

On another topic, what are ya'all using to fly in these sims? What do you prefer?

I use Mouse + KB and Logitech Extreme 3D Pro (read: Cheap WalMart Joystick!)...both work GREAT in my top 3 sims. When I'm at my main rig though, the Logitech comes out as I do find it more involving and entertaining to play with... but running KB + Mouse on the laptop has been solid and I feel like I have no advantage or disadvantage with either...though that could be my crappy piloting skills.

 

[erocker]

I've been playing a bit of Elite and.. I totally suck in combat. Bad, really really bad.

 

[Kursah]

I figured you'd be the man at combat erocker!

I'm not great, but I have been going to Warzones and duking it out with the Novices, I even went to an Un-Id'd Location, and went up against a Dangerous pilot and after an intense 15 minute battle finally won!

It takes strategy...switching between bolstering weapons, shields and engines....

I learned that the strafing is key... I use a custom mapping for my Logitech...considering changing the Yaw and Roll axes so they match SC so I don't have so many issues there...I SUCK in SC. Though I am so-so in EvoMerc and feel so-so in Elite...both fly similar tho!

 

[Kursah]

@erocker

The information in this post and thread was pretty useful for a quick idea about becoming better at combat in Elite...https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=55153&p=949326&viewfull=1#post949326

And another good resource: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=34437

I'm no good, just dangerous enough to have fun. Though I still lose about half my battles and it really sucks when you accidentally shoot someone else (especially the authorities) while in battle with one ship...things get sour fast and I usually get blown to bits before I can speed outta there and hit supercruise.

I really attribute that to the flight model in EvoMerc though. Which is still more hardcore on that front...but Elite has what I feel is a good mix of something easier to pick up but still gotta deal with physics.


A battle in Elite is a challenge to me, and when I win I feel like I had an honest and hard fought victory. Fist pump for celebration and onto the next battle, get blown up, repeat...happily!

A battle in EvoMerc is generally more frustrating than fun, and can be very exciting, and when won, I feel more like I just survived certain doom and need a break, and maybe a cig to calm my nerves. Or I died...again! Bah!

A battle in SC, feels exciting for a few rounds solid rounds of space dogfighting, but like BF, I'm over it and trying another game mode till bored, and moving on. Fun, but wears on me fast...maybe it's just because I suck at it!



Edit: I also found where to change your commander name so you're no longer Backer #xxxxx...

https://support.orerve.net/http/commander/profile

Sad I just found this out...but maybe some of you out there didn't know this. I am now Kursah in-game finally!