TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[PolRoger]

I'm idling my crunching rigs and taking a hiatus. I'll be visiting family for part of the summer... Should probably start back up and resume WCG in August.

 

[pcwolf]

I did a simple drop-in replacement 5950x for 3950x ... same everything, AsRock X470 Taichi, Corsair AIO, 4x8 Team 3733mHz memory.
Astonished to see a 10c drop in both CPU and GPU temps all cores F@H and WCG. Linux Manjaro

 

[debs3759]

Any recommendations for browsers that are not very cpu heavy? I currently use Firefox, which has around 30 open tabs, is not very processor intensive, and is responsive, plus Chrome, which has 8 open tabs but causes cpu activity for wcg to drop from around 12% per logical processor to below 10%. Looking to replace Chrome (although one occasional activity that earns me about half my internet bill does need Chrome), and can't really open more tabs in Firefox without performance being exponentially affected. Only requirement is low cpu usage (high memory usage is OK) and it must have the Lastpass add-on available

Edit: Problem solved. It's only when I load the ScrabbleGo page on Facebook that the problem is there. I don't need to keep closing Chrome, just that one page

New question. Will wcg work on an Ivy Bridge CPU (i7 3770K) or a Bulldozer CPU (FX 8150)? Both have AVX but not AVX2, according to CPU-World

 

[mstenholm]

Any recommendations for browsers that are not very cpu heavy? I currently use Firefox, which has around 30 open tabs, is not very processor intensive, and is responsive, plus Chrome, which has 8 open tabs but causes cpu activity for wcg to drop from around 12% per logical processor to below 10%. Looking to replace Chrome (although one occasional activity that earns me about half my internet bill does need Chrome), and can't really open more tabs in Firefox without performance being exponentially affected. Only requirement is low cpu usage (high memory usage is OK) and it must have the Lastpass add-on available

Edit: Problem solved. It's only when I load the ScrabbleGo page on Facebook that the problem is there. I don't need to keep closing Chrome, just that one page

New question. Will wcg work on an Ivy Bridge CPU (i7 3770K) or a Bulldozer CPU (FX 8150)? Both have AVX but not AVX2, according to CPU-World

Sure it will.

 

[debs3759]

Thanks.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Happy belated birthday @Chicken Patty !

 

[debs3759]

I'm finishing of all the tasks in my queue then having to stop crunching until I can set up my water cooling. Since I started crunching, the average CPU temp is around 70C, and windows keeps freezing. With a heatwave just starting, it's not going to improve

Edit:

Restricted it to 37.5% of the CPU while I finish it off, and set affinities so that each is on a separate physical core, while GPU folding with the 4th core. It's only dropped the temp to 64C on the folding core and 63 max on the others. I had replaced the thermal paste with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut before I started crunching, and put the side back on the case (going to remove that now, it had been off for years), so I'm wondering whether I need more fans/airflow, as 70C seems far too high.

Edit 2:

With the side off the case, and 7 threads crunching, the temp is again 5C lower than it was, so airflow is definitely the issue. I can deal with a 65C CPU more than 74 max Good thing I have a fan in the mail, I get fed up of the dust in my home filling open computers

Might be a couple of weeks before I can buy a GPU block and tubing (I have everything else),, but then I can pump 20C water through the system during the hot months

 

[phill]

@debs3759 what CPU are you using currently to get the temps?? I had my 3900X recently back to air cooling, it hit 90C+ in under 2 minutes with running WCG and needless to say it was shut down, pronto.... After some vcore tweaking, I was able to get it down to 55 to 60C load temps which today being so damn hot, I think was hitting about 65C possibly 70C... I think any hotter and I'd have been melting today!! lol

My 6700k was also hitting highs of nearly 75C... I'm hoping my little secret for the moment will make wonders tomorrow, so when I finally get the chance, I'll let you all know the results... I sure hope it's worth it!! Right now the room I'm in is sitting at 27C and my CPU is around 60C under a custom loop and 1.15vcore.. I don't think I'll push it more due to the temps. I don't want to damage the hardware so I back the volts down more and try and keep it as cool as possible....

 

[Nordic]

I have a 5950x coming to upgrade my 3900x. It won't be crunching full time, especially not in the summer heat but it will crunch. I intend to stick on X570 for a long while so I wanted the best CPU in that chipset.

 

[phill]

I have a 5950x coming to upgrade my 3900x. It won't be crunching full time, especially not in the summer heat but it will crunch. I intend to stick on X570 for a long while so I wanted the best CPU in that chipset.

Let us know how you find it @Nordic, I'd love to get one for a build and a mates build I'm helping him with... The 3900X's are not bad considering the price and 24 threads total.... Pretty decent with the efficiencies as well I think

 

[debs3759]

@debs3759 what CPU are you using currently to get the temps?? I had my 3900X recently back to air cooling, it hit 90C+ in under 2 minutes with running WCG and needless to say it was shut down, pronto.... After some vcore tweaking, I was able to get it down to 55 to 60C load temps which today being so damn hot, I think was hitting about 65C possibly 70C... I think any hotter and I'd have been melting today!! lol

My 6700k was also hitting highs of nearly 75C... I'm hoping my little secret for the moment will make wonders tomorrow, so when I finally get the chance, I'll let you all know the results... I sure hope it's worth it!! Right now the room I'm in is sitting at 27C and my CPU is around 60C under a custom loop and 1.15vcore.. I don't think I'll push it more due to the temps. I don't want to damage the hardware so I back the volts down more and try and keep it as cool as possible....

It's a 6700K. I'll be digging out the water cooling stuff tomorrow, and hope I still have everything in one place to set up the custom loop. GPU will have to be added another time. I also hope that if I didn't empty the chiller, that there's no slime or algae, or it'll be getting bleached first

 

[Nordic]

Let us know how you find it @Nordic, I'd love to get one for a build and a mates build I'm helping him with... The 3900X's are not bad considering the price and 24 threads total.... Pretty decent with the efficiencies as well I think

The 3900x is an amazing cruncher. 16 cores is 16 cores though.

 

[PaulieG]

I have a 5950x coming to upgrade my 3900x. It won't be crunching full time, especially not in the summer heat but it will crunch. I intend to stick on X570 for a long while so I wanted the best CPU in that chipset.

That chip stayed nice and cool for me. I just ran it slightly undervolted.

 

[Nordic]

I am reluctant to do crunching in the summer. I am considering a watercooling setup with a 480mm radiator pushing air outside. Or maybe setting up a large resivoir, pump, and car radiator in my crawlspace. I have options.

 

[phill]

I am reluctant to do crunching in the summer. I am considering a watercooling setup with a 480mm radiator pushing air outside. Or maybe setting up a large resivoir, pump, and car radiator in my crawlspace. I have options.

I run all of my Ryzen 3 series CPUs under volted and two of them on air. In fact, all but one of the Ryzen CPUs are under air cooling not water...

I think anything with a triple at most should give you very good temps. The main problem I think for the higher core count Ryzen AM4 CPUs are simply the surface area the block has contact with and the fact it's so heat concentrated, getting decent temps is pretty hard work. I'm on a 560mm GTX rad at the moment with 4 EK Vadar fans and my temps are touching up to 65C with the hot weather and GPU folding as well and that's with the CPU locked to 1.15vcore, same as my 3900X used to be. I'm still using the Ryzen 3 series CPUs but I am very impressed with them and can't wait to grab a 5950X for a mate of mine and my systems

 

[Nordic]

I want to start water cooling, not just because I got a 5950x. I think a 480mm radiator would be overkill but it would fit perfectly in my window. It wouldn't take much to build a frame to hold it. I couldn't run it like that in the winter but it would be nice for the summer.

I have been contemplating a more elaborate cooling setup in my crawl space. It doesn't often get below freezing outside. My crawl space usually sits at 40f through the whole winter. I could get some wonderful temps with a 5 gallon resivoir and radiator down there. I would just have to run some pipe up to my pc.

These are just thoughts, thoughts that would help me crunch year round.

 

[PaulieG]

I run all of my Ryzen 3 series CPUs under volted and two of them on air. In fact, all but one of the Ryzen CPUs are under air cooling not water...

I think anything with a triple at most should give you very good temps. The main problem I think for the higher core count Ryzen AM4 CPUs are simply the surface area the block has contact with and the fact it's so heat concentrated, getting decent temps is pretty hard work. I'm on a 560mm GTX rad at the moment with 4 EK Vadar fans and my temps are touching up to 65C with the hot weather and GPU folding as well and that's with the CPU locked to 1.15vcore, same as my 3900X used to be. I'm still using the Ryzen 3 series CPUs but I am very impressed with them and can't wait to grab a 5950X for a mate of mine and my systems

Do u run all core overclocking or PBO? I’ve had a dozen 5950x’s and consistently they all gave better temps with undervolted all core overclocks. I could get at least 4.4ghz 1.16v and never break 62c on EK 360 AIO’s on the best 4 that I kept, including the one Nordic has now.

 

[phill]

I want to start water cooling, not just because I got a 5950x. I think a 480mm radiator would be overkill but it would fit perfectly in my window. It wouldn't take much to build a frame to hold it. I couldn't run it like that in the winter but it would be nice for the summer.

I have been contemplating a more elaborate cooling setup in my crawl space. It doesn't often get below freezing outside. My crawl space usually sits at 40f through the whole winter. I could get some wonderful temps with a 5 gallon resivoir and radiator down there. I would just have to run some pipe up to my pc.

These are just thoughts, thoughts that would help me crunch year round.

That would definitely keep it cool as possible, the only real problem is the ambient temp which could give you condensation which isn't what you're after on a build that crunches Or any build for that matter... I think it would be definintely worth a try and a test before deploying it too the main crunching PC just in case anything went bad so you don't loose that hardware. Temp monitors would be great to keep an eye on since sometimes things can surprise you.
I find the biggest problems with the xx50 range of CPUs is the amount of space for cooling on such a small chip, it's bloody hard to get rid of the heat fast enough even with some water setups.

Do u run all core overclocking or PBO? I’ve had a dozen 5950x’s and consistently they all gave better temps with undervolted all core overclocks. I could get at least 4.4ghz 1.16v and never break 62c on EK 360 AIO’s on the best 4 that I kept, including the one Nordic has now.

I just set my Vcore to 1.15v and let the CPU do whatever it wishes I don't try and set any manual overclocks or PBO either, I just let it boost to whatever it does with the temps around it. My 3900X's rarely broke 60C unless it was a bloody hot day... I've nothing really special in the rig, just a EK Velocity Nickle block, EK pump res combo and then the 560mm GTX rad from Black Ice... I just let it do it's thing and it's as stable as a rock... I've got the fans set quiet for when my girls go to bed, they are not the best I don't think either, which is why I'd like to try and change them but trying to find a Noctua PPC fan in white?? Yeah not going to happen But that's my aim for the next set I have I think... These EK Vadar fans I'm not a fan of (excuse the very bad pun)

 

[debs3759]

Tried running 3 instances of Africa Rainfall Project at the same time on my i7 6700K. Had to revert to just 1, as the PC kept freezing! Not sure whether that was because I use Process Lasso to set affinities and priorities, but it seems much happier with just 1 instance, plus 6 of other projects (logical core 7 being reserved for GPU folding). Only tried 3 of ARP as was getting impatient waiting for the silver badge

 

[mstenholm]

Tried running 3 instances of Africa Rainfall Project at the same time on my i7 6700K. Had to revert to just 1, as the PC kept freezing! Not sure whether that was because I use Process Lasso to set affinities and priorities, but it seems much happier with just 1 instance, plus 6 of other projects (logical core 7 being reserved for GPU folding). Only tried 3 of ARP as was getting impatient waiting for the silver badge

It’s a memory thing. Your 8 MB cache doesn't stand a chance against the 64 MB AMDs. My 2700X takes 30% longer then my 3900X when I run three at the time and that is because of the much higher L3 cache (32 against 64). My old i7 will only run one at the time if I want to use the PC at the same time. Good badge hunting luck

Edit: I might confuse myself about different types of memory but these units are very memory dependant.

 

[debs3759]

Took longer with just one ARP running, but got the silver. Next goal is ruby for OPD and MCM (and silver for MIP if it gives out enough new work).

Hoping to be able to afford a high end Ryzen system next year and/or a mid range 40 series NVidia card. Got to keep on top of reducing my credit bills first though

 

[phill]

Took longer with just one ARP running, but got the silver. Next goal is ruby for OPD and MCM (and silver for MIP if it gives out enough new work).

Hoping to be able to afford a high end Ryzen system next year and/or a mid range 40 series NVidia card. Got to keep on top of reducing my credit bills first though

Glad you got the badge!! I am very frustrated with MIP, I've had nothing at all for nearly a week or more.. It's one of the only work units I've had ticked on some of the profiles I use... Grrrrr

Ryzen is amazing, the 3900X's I have crunch so well for such little wattage (135w ish for the full system with a 1080 TI installed as well) utterly brilliant

Those credit card bills are very frustrating

 

[mstenholm]

Glad you got the badge!! I am very frustrated with MIP, I've had nothing at all for nearly a week or more.. It's one of the only work units I've had ticked on some of the profiles I use... Grrrrr

Ryzen is amazing, the 3900X's I have crunch so well for such little wattage (135w ish for the full system with a 1080 TI installed as well) utterly brilliant

Those credit card bills are very frustrating

MIP is EOL

 

[phill]

MIP is EOL

I just read it in another thread mate, I'm truly gutted

 

[HammerON]

Got an itch to upgrade one of my 3900X crunchers. Have a 3960X coming, going Threadripper!