TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[PaulieG]

Thanks for clearing things up, I've been crunching for about 15-18 hours so far without problems.

There's so much raw power in an i7 that I don't even notice a difference when I'm crunching and when I'm not.

That's the beauty of i7. Just about the perfect crunching cpu.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

That's the beauty of i7. Just about the perfect crunching cpu.

you forgot the heat, and wattage need... otherwise youre absolutely right.

 

[Kantastic]

you forgot the heat, and wattage need... otherwise youre absolutely right.

The heat and power consumption aren't too bad, the temps have yet to go over 60C and the power consumption is less than the P4 I was using for the past week, it ran between 1.4-1.5v, the i7 tops out at 1.288v.

Unless there's something about the relationship between wattage and voltage I'm unaware of, I'm actually saving money!

PS - Some questions:

Would there be a difference between my i7 running at stock vs 4GHz?

How many points does an i7 average per day?

How many points would a regular quad (Athlon II X4) get per day?

 

[[Ion]]

The heat and power consumption aren't too bad, the temps have yet to go over 60C and the power consumption is less than the P4 I was using for the past week, it ran between 1.4-1.5v, the i7 tops out at 1.288v.

Unless there's something about the relationship between wattage and voltage I'm unaware of, I'm actually saving money!

PS - Some questions:

Would there be a difference between my i7 running at stock vs 4GHz?

How many points does an i7 average per day?

How many points would a regular quad (Athlon II X4) get per day?

Would there be a difference between my i7 running at stock vs 4GHz? Yes, at stock the i7 will get about 3K PPD, at 4ghz maybe 4.5k

How many points does an i7 average per day? See above

How many points would a regular quad (Athlon II X4) get per day? Depends on the speed, at ~3ghz you would get ~1600-1700 PPD

 

[Chicken Patty]

Would there be a difference between my i7 running at stock vs 4GHz? Yes, at stock the i7 will get about 3K PPD, at 4ghz maybe 4.5k

How many points does an i7 average per day? See above

How many points would a regular quad (Athlon II X4) get per day? Depends on the speed, at ~3ghz you would get ~1600-1700 PPD

at 4ghz I am averaging 2.3k. However that is low. remember lately I had a lot of downtime. however I know for a fact that at 4.3 Ghz I was averaging about 4.5-4.7k per day.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

i just sang "smoke gets in your eyes" by jo stafford... upon searching the lyrics i saw this:

i shedded a tear, as i saw the little boy grabbing his ernie (i also loved Ernie as child..love him still )... i have to go on, i have to raise the output,for childs sake...

KEEP CRUNCHING! LETS HOPE THEY HELP THE CHILDS!
(im always thinkin were used for researching nuclear weaponry and synthetic viruses... even my mother said that to me)

IBM Roadrunner (Worlds fastest Supercomputer ATM)
!!!Los Alamos!!! National Laboratory (New Mexico, USA)
1.105 TERAFLOPS,6.000 AMD Dual-Core-Processors, 13.000 IBM Cell-Processors
Physical Simulations (z. B. Nuclear Weapons Simulations)
if they take even the biggest one for it, they surely will steal from us,or will they?
(source: wikipedia)

and here we have: a 5870
ALiCEnext Bergische Universität Wuppertal 2,08 TERAFLOPS 1024 CPUs 1,8 GHz Opteron Scientific Uses

# the 580.000 Computers of the Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing currently work out roughly (October 2009)
2,9 PetaFLOPS, 2,5 times the computing power of IBM Roadrunner
# When each one of the 6 billion Humans on the World would do one calculation on a calculator each second, the humanity would have to work 46 Years to do the calculations, that the IBM Roadrunner does on one day.
nice facts^^

 

[Supreme0verlord]

My numbers are going to be down for the next week or so, I'm getting hooked on Borderlands. And unfortunately, I can't run BOINC when playing any games, my fps suffer from it and that's unacceptable for me!

 

[Chicken Patty]

gaming > WCG= :shadedshu

 

[p_o_s_pc]

got my other cruncher back up today.(X2 4200+) its crunching away at 3.1ghz. In about a week i should have another cruncher up just finishing the deal out with Sneaky and the onedub

 

[[Ion]]

got my other cruncher back up today.(X2 4200+) its crunching away at 3.1ghz. In about a week i should have another cruncher up just finishing the deal out with Sneaky and the onedub

Awesome, glad you got the X2 back up and I hope you enjoy the P4! You won't have to worry about heating your room this winter

 

[p_o_s_pc]

The heat and power consumption aren't too bad, the temps have yet to go over 60C and the power consumption is less than the P4 I was using for the past week, it ran between 1.4-1.5v, the i7 tops out at 1.288v.

Unless there's something about the relationship between wattage and voltage I'm unaware of, I'm actually saving money!

PS - Some questions:

Would there be a difference between my i7 running at stock vs 4GHz?

How many points does an i7 average per day?

How many points would a regular quad (Athlon II X4) get per day?

the voltage used does play a part in how many watts the chip uses. But The i7 uses more power then the P4... here is an example.. Athlon Barton core 1.6v-1.65v 62w Sempron Manila 1.3-1.35v 62w
Both have a TDP of 62w but the Barton has a much higher core voltage.The point i am trying to make is you can't compare completely different CPUs and say one takes less watts because it has a lower voltage. now say you took another i7 running at 4ghz@1.1v and compare it to one that is running 4ghz@1.23v the one with lower voltage in that case will be using less watts

Awesome, glad you got the X2 back up and I hope you enjoy the P4! You won't have to worry about heating your room this winter

I will enjoy it thanks I already don't have to worry about heating my room i have a voltmodded 8800GT and voltmodded 3870 doing that job along with 2 X2s and a 8800GTS to help. It stays about 85-90f in here no matter how cold it gets outside (i like to be warm in the winter so it works out great)

also what kinda PPD do you think i would get from the P4 if i got it to 4ghz?

 

[Velvet Wafer]

Awesome, glad you got the X2 back up and I hope you enjoy the P4! You won't have to worry about heating your room this winter

i regularly have to open the window... temps drop 5-7 degrees... after 1 hour the air is warmed again (we have deep autumn here,its about 8 degrees celsius now)

 

[[Ion]]

also what kinda PPD do you think i would get from the P4 if i got it to 4ghz?

I got about 400, maybe a bit less/more, I don't remember exactly

EDIT: With HT enabled, I never ran it without HT

 

[p_o_s_pc]

I got about 400, maybe a bit less/more, I don't remember exactly

EDIT: With HT enabled, I never ran it without HT

HT would for sure be enabled to get that extra thread. I am also going to have it folding the ATI client. So i think i will just run 1 thread for WCG and the other for the ATI client(folding).(right now my 3870 gets ~400PPD because of WCG using all of the X2) I will also mess around with it alittle to see how things turn out.

 

[Jstn7477]

Finally decided to join WCG today. Since I decided to dedicate my laptop (which I never use) to F@H on the 8600m GT, I have my laptop running in my bathroom in the cabinet under the sink. Yes, I know that there is next to none airflow down there, but the bathroom is cool, and I can leave the laptop running down there 24/7 without it heating up my room or having to listen to it (the fans are always near max). Also, the cabinet should keep out the steam when I take a shower.

Anyways, I just started WCG with a Core 2 Duo T8100 (2.1GHz/800/3MB). It may be small, but at least it's something.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Finally decided to join WCG today. Since I decided to dedicate my laptop (which I never use) to F@H on the 8600m GT, I have my laptop running in my bathroom in the cabinet under the sink. Yes, I know that there is next to none airflow down there, but the bathroom is cool, and I can leave the laptop running down there 24/7 without it heating up my room or having to listen to it (the fans are always near max). Also, the cabinet should keep out the steam when I take a shower.

Anyways, I just started WCG with a Core 2 Duo T8100 (2.1GHz/800/3MB). It may be small, but at least it's something.

Anything, and I mean anything is help bro. Thanks a lot for joining, we enjoyed your little cabinet story We'll see ya around here

 

[bogmali]

Just like what I said over next door (F@H). I would still be crunching a total of 34 cores then. I would only leave two rigs in my house (24/7) and the rest will be relocated to cut down on the power cost that my "boss" is complaining about

Will commence my total shutdown tonight.....Sorry for leaving you guys hanging but I can't have the wife giving me the cold shoulder. I will leave two farms on (4X250GTS and 2X9800GX2) while the rest will be totally shutdown until middle of this week when I relocate them. I would still be contributing 75K-100K when the rest of the rigs go back online. Once again I'm really sorry and I hope you "married" folks understand:shadedshu

I will also have 3 8800GT's going to be for sale if any of you folders want them. If not, I'll send one your way DD so you can you use it to fold (2 single slot and 1 dual).

 

[Chicken Patty]

we understand bog, Im not married, but I do

 

[[Ion]]

HT would for sure be enabled to get that extra thread. I am also going to have it folding the ATI client. So i think i will just run 1 thread for WCG and the other for the ATI client(folding).(right now my 3870 gets ~400PPD because of WCG using all of the X2) I will also mess around with it alittle to see how things turn out.

OK, good. Sounds like time to get rid of the ATi card

Finally decided to join WCG today. Since I decided to dedicate my laptop (which I never use) to F@H on the 8600m GT, I have my laptop running in my bathroom in the cabinet under the sink. Yes, I know that there is next to none airflow down there, but the bathroom is cool, and I can leave the laptop running down there 24/7 without it heating up my room or having to listen to it (the fans are always near max). Also, the cabinet should keep out the steam when I take a shower.

Anyways, I just started WCG with a Core 2 Duo T8100 (2.1GHz/800/3MB). It may be small, but at least it's something.

Awesome, that should be 600 PPD or so

Just like what I said over next door (F@H). I would still be crunching a total of 34 cores then. I would only leave two rigs in my house (24/7) and the rest will be relocated to cut down on the power cost that my "boss" is complaining about

Sorry to hear that. At least you get free electricity wherever you work

 

[p_o_s_pc]

@Ion the ATI card pulls off ~2.2k on Windows XP and when i have Boinc not on 100%.Right now i don't even have it folding just not worth the extra heat.When i get the other rig going it will go in there till i can get another Nvidia

 

[Kantastic]

Would I be able to crunch with JUST a tower? No monitor, peripherals, etc etc. In theory yes but I'm just wondering to make sure there aren't any problems, I might fire up an old P4 and hide it under the bed and let it crunch away or my parents are going to b!tch about the ConEd bills.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

Would I be able to crunch with JUST a tower? No monitor, peripherals, etc etc. In theory yes but I'm just wondering to make sure there aren't any problems, I might fire up an old P4 and hide it under the bed and let it crunch away or my parents are going to b!tch about the ConEd bills.

i dont even have that. just bare parts. you just have to be sure its stable, because you cant regularly look after it

 

[p_o_s_pc]

Would I be able to crunch with JUST a tower? No monitor, peripherals, etc etc. In theory yes but I'm just wondering to make sure there aren't any problems, I might fire up an old P4 and hide it under the bed and let it crunch away or my parents are going to b!tch about the ConEd bills.

just get it setup and running and make sure everything is working right and unplug your monitor and stuff and your golden. Thats what i did with one of my rigs and worked just fine. just keep an eye on your WCG stats to make sure that rig is turning in work every few days.If it isn't turning in work then you will have to check it naturally

but i can assure you it will be just fine

yes i know Velvet posted before me but i just wanted to give you my input on it also

BTW my x2 4200+ is pissing me off. I can get it stable at 3.1ghz@1.37v or 3060mhz@1.35v but 3110mhz@1.4v not stable I think i am just going to stick with 3.1ghz

 

[Mindweaver]

Just like what I said over next door (F@H). I would still be crunching a total of 34 cores then. I would only leave two rigs in my house (24/7) and the rest will be relocated to cut down on the power cost that my "boss" is complaining about

Hey bro do what you need to do. Trust me if the wife's not happy then nobody's happy!...

 

[PaulieG]

Just like what I said over next door (F@H). I would still be crunching a total of 34 cores then. I would only leave two rigs in my house (24/7) and the rest will be relocated to cut down on the power cost that my "boss" is complaining about

I totally understand, which is exactly why I don't contribute to F@H like I should. I really had a choice to go full force with one or the other, and then contribute to the other during months we don't use much power (late spring and early fall). WCG is a less expensive project to maintain, so that's where I put most of my energy. If I folded with all of the gpu firepower I have on hand, I'd be sleeping on the couch. Unfortunately, I don't have a means to "outsource" my power.