upgrade rtx 4090 for an Rtx 5080

[JustBenching]

You don't just take the latest few new unoptimized shits that no one is going to play anyways and compare it like that.

Why do you think the "latest unoptimized shits" perform worse on the 7900xtx? Shouldn't it be the other way around, due to vram and all that?

Thing is, when im buying high end, I want to brute force through those unoptimized crap games. And the 4080 does that better apparently.

 

[Mr_Engineer]

5080 15% faster than 4080

 

[oxrufiioxo]

5080 15% faster than 4080

Odd Nvidia decided to give the 5080 the smallest generational improvement. Not quite 3060ti-4060ti bad but pretty meh.

Although if you factor in the 4070/4070ti super the gains for the 5070/5070ti are going to be small also

 

[Bomby569]

Odd Nvidia decided to give the 5080 the smallest generational improvement. Not quite 3060ti-4060ti bad but pretty meh.

Although if you factor in the 4070/4070ti super the gains for the 5070/5070ti are going to be small also

nvidia has left a simple apples to apples comparison long ago, you'll have supers and ti's and super ti's, they need room to accommodate them all in the performance stack down the road. The early adopters will pay a steeper price for less, just let the dust settle and there will be better options and i'm sure price adjustments

 

[oxrufiioxo]

nvidia has left a simple apples to apples comparison long ago, you'll have supers and ti's and super ti's, they need room to accommodate them all in the performance stack down the road. The early adopters will pay a steeper price for less, just let the dust settle and there will be better options and i'm sure price adjustments

While 30% hasn't been uncommon for a generational improvement 15-20% is on the low side with only a 5-12% over the super cards when it comes to the 70 series.

I guess we will see when they hit retail but hopefully slightly lower pricing saves the day.

Only the 4070 super offered a meaningful perfomance improvement so who knows what 50 series super cards will look like if they even choose to release them with likely the competition sitting between the 5070/5070ti

 

[Bomby569]

While 30% hasn't been uncommon for a generational improvement 15-20% is on the low side with only a 5-12% over the super cards when it comes to the 70 series.

I guess we will see when they hit retail but hopefully slightly lower pricing saves the day.

Only the 4070 super offered a meaningful perfomance improvement so who knows what 50 series super cards will look like if they even choose to release them with likely the competition sitting between the 5070/5070ti

last gen was an outlier as they moved from Samsung to TSMC. the 3000 series benefited from the 2000 being meh (intentionally or not). Not sure it's realistic to expect insane gains anymore.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

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last gen was an outlier as they moved from Samsung to TSMC. the 3000 series benefited from the 2000 being meh (intentionally or not). Not sure it's realistic to expect insane gains anymore.

As meh as turing was the 70 class card still matched the previous generations 80 class card and somtimes beat it by a decent margin without compromised frames or upscaling.

The issue with Turing was everything got shifted up a tier in pricing which has pretty much stuck to this day not the performance improvements the 2080 killed the 1080 but was priced like a 1080ti for example. Turing was mostly fine we just got slapped with the RTX early adopter fee on top

 

[Mr_Engineer]

While 30% hasn't been uncommon for a generational improvement 15-20% is on the low side with only a 5-12% over the super cards when it comes to the 70 series.

The 5080 is a low performance improvement while having the same 16GB memory size. Seems to be the worst of the new 50x0 series cards, depending on price ofc.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The 5080 is a low performance improvement while having the same 16GB memory size. Seems to be the worst of the new 50x0 series cards, depending on price ofc.

Yeah if they couldn't give them more performance for reasons at least give them more vram its looking like if you don't factor in 3x compromised frames the 9070 is going to look much better than the 5070 in 2025..

AMD has an even bigger window than ever before but they'll probably still F it up....

 

[Mr_Engineer]

last gen was an outlier as they moved from Samsung to TSMC. the 3000 series benefited from the 2000 being meh (intentionally or not). Not sure it's realistic to expect insane gains anymore.

A 20 or 30% performance gain is double by moving to TSMC 3nm process. But there is the problem of the power draw which keeps going higher from generation to the next.

Yeah if they couldn't give them more performance for reasons at least give them more vram its looking like if you don't factor in 3x compromised frames the 9070 is going to look much better than the 5070 in 2025..

AMD has an even bigger window than ever before but they'll probably still F it up....

RDNA3 seemed to have bottleneck somewhere, the specs on paper look better than the performance.

AMD has a better chance now to release good product, if we take the RX 7600XT for example, it's a monolithic chip built on 6nm. The RX 9070XT reportedly doubles the resources and built on a 4nm process (much more dense/efficient). If we account for the IPC/RT improvements for RDNA4 and the higher clocks, raster performance should be around that of RX 7900XT and probably more efficient with better RT.

If priced right the 90x0 cards can be great.