WCG-TPU Cruncher's Hardware/Tech Support Discussion Thread

[XZero450]

On Win you can always use FREEware program to prevent overheating, like Tthrottle.

On Linux, you would have to program it.

What's this overheating you speak of?

 

[NastyHabits]

@thebluebumblebee I've used both windows10 home and pro for WCG and F@H. I use Splashtop personal to remote in on the same physical network. I prefer Pro on my daily driver PC. Offers me more control without deep diving into the weeds.

 

[KLiKzg]

What's this overheating you speak of?

On BOINC you can loose some cores for processing or loose time. But if you run everything by 100%, an issue of overheating the equipment can/will happen.
After I fried several older nVidia with crunching 24/7 on GPU, as the fan failed on them. So was searching for a solution.

Got one with Tthrottle, which will limit crunching, based on CPU or GPU temperature. See here:

 

[mstenholm]

On BOINC you can loose some cores for processing or loose time. But if you run everything by 100%, an issue of overheating the equipment can/will happen.
After I fried several older nVidia with crunching 24/7 on GPU, as the fan failed on them. So was searching for a solution.

Got one with Tthrottle, which will limit crunching, based on CPU or GPU temperature. See here:
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This will just stop folding. Better have your hardware and cooling operating instead of having more background programs running. But if it works for you....

 

[KLiKzg]

This will just stop folding. Better have your hardware and cooling operating instead of having more background programs running. But if it works for you....

Cooling fails, at least once early on one of the computers!

Or the temps outside are about 40°C, so that is a recipe for a "fried computer".

 

[Toothless]

So when I set 90% CPU allotment in BOINC, it'll only use like, 65-70%. I remember someone helping me with a fix years ago but I don't know what it was. Anyone have an idea to fix it?

 

[XZero450]

So when I set 90% CPU allotment in BOINC, it'll only use like, 65-70%. I remember someone helping me with a fix years ago but I don't know what it was. Anyone have an idea to fix it?

How many cores do you have?

 

[Toothless]

How many cores do you have?

40 cores, 80 threads.

 

[XZero450]

40 cores, 80 threads.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/tpus-wcg-boinc-team.85784/post-4396192 <-- Does that look familiar?

Be sure to feed that beast.

 

[Toothless]

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/tpus-wcg-boinc-team.85784/post-4396192 <-- Does that look familiar?

Be sure to feed that beast.

Do you happen to remember the location where that config file needs to be?

Nevermind. Turns out the manager needed to be relaunched.

I do have it to use 100% processors. This clearly isn't it.

 

[KLiKzg]

What system are you using?
& what temps are on the CPUs?

 

[Toothless]

What system are you using?
& what temps are on the CPUs?

Temps are not an issue, max at 60c with fans OFF.

2x 2698v4
X10DAL-i
8x16GB RDIMM
GTX Titan X (Maxwell)
EVGA 750w

 

[KLiKzg]

So it is not some kind of temp. regulation. Unless it has something in BIOS for 2nd CPU over 60°C. Please check.

& do you enough FREE jobs (WU) in BOINC?

 

[Toothless]

So it is not some kind of temp. regulation. Unless it has something in BIOS for 2nd CPU over 60°C. Please check.

& do you enough FREE jobs (WU) in BOINC?

Bios is fine. I had it running 80c after not checking cooler mount. That had no issues either as tjmax is 105c.

I have about 100 jobs, and it's only doing about 40. Leaving 60 as "ready to start".

This is for Rosetta, purely, as I happen to live across the sound from WCU and some home team goodness is fun.

 

[KLiKzg]

Bios is fine. I had it running 80c after not checking cooler mount. That had no issues either as tjmax is 105c.

I have about 100 jobs, and it's only doing about 40. Leaving 60 as "ready to start".

This is for Rosetta, purely, as I happen to live across the sound from WCU and some home team goodness is fun.

That is it, Rosetta jobs. Sorry to say, but you can not run 100% on HT with Rosetta. Some issues with using some lots of L3 cache on CPU, so can use only single core per WU or sthg similar.
Info about more: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,40374_offset,0
&
here: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,40279_offset,0

Suggestion of a cure: add another project. WCG has similar science, check here.

 

[Toothless]

That is it, Rosetta jobs. Sorry to say, but you can not run 100% on HT with Rosetta. Some issues with using some lots of L3 cache on CPU, so can use only single core per WU or sthg similar.
Info about more: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,40374_offset,0
&
here: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,40279_offset,0

Suggestion of a cure: add another project. WCG has similar science, check here.

That's interesting as my old dual 2680v2 and dual x5680 can both go full load. Probably some issue with having X threads.

And yes, I know about WCG.

 

[Caring1]

So I just recently restarted WCG crunching and was scratching my head why the screen kept freezing and going black then coming back on.
Turns out my lowly GT710 GPU wasn't coping with a GPU task and was chucking a shit fit, so a quick swap to a GTX970 and we are off and running again.

 

[KLiKzg]

So I just recently restarted WCG crunching and was scratching my head why the screen kept freezing and going black then coming back on.
Turns out my lowly GT710 GPU wasn't coping with a GPU task and was chucking a shit fit, so a quick swap to a GTX970 and we are off and running again.

I run my graphics 24/7, even with streaming on 1650.

& 1030 is also in there in a case, just doing 2nd jobs for extra calc. But OPNG does error out even on 730's.

 

[stinger608]

Well crap. I had to shut down my 3700X Ryzen system from crunching until I find a better CPU cooler.

The one I have on it now is a Corsair 115i or something like that. It is doing horrible at cooling the CPU. Thinking it may have lost fluid prior to me getting it. (Got it used for very cheap).

While crunching the system jumps up to 79-82C!!!!

Hell, even if I run a video card demanding game it jumps up in the mid 70's range.

Heck, even a stock Ryzen cooler would probably do better.


So, does anyone have some advice on a decent Ryzen cooler that isn't stupid expensive?

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Well crap. I had to shut down my 3700X Ryzen system from crunching until I find a better CPU cooler.

The one I have on it now is a Corsair 115i or something like that. It is doing horrible at cooling the CPU. Thinking it may have lost fluid prior to me getting it. (Got it used for very cheap).

While crunching the system jumps up to 79-82C!!!!

Hell, even if I run a video card demanding game it jumps up in the mid 70's range.

Heck, even a stock Ryzen cooler would probably do better.


So, does anyone have some advice on a decent Ryzen cooler that isn't stupid expensive?

Those don't seem like terrible temps. Did this chip used to run cooler?

 

[stinger608]

Those don't seem like terrible temps. Did this chip used to run cooler?

That I don't know. As soon as I got this chip I installed the Corsair AIO.

I have a 1700X running a Ryzen cooler and it never breaks 70C crunching.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

That I don't know. As soon as I got this chip I installed the Corsair AIO.

I have a 1700X running a Ryzen cooler and it never breaks 70C crunching.

Might be a Precision Boost or PBO thing. PBO was introduced with the 3000-series, and Zen 2 boosts differently than Zen 1 in general (I think; not an AMD owner). Maybe this GN article (or a more Zen-knowledgable member) will help.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

My personal favorite is the Scythe Fuma 2.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

I can second @thebluebumblebee's Scythe recommendation.

All three of my crunchers run this:

Amazon.com

 

[phill]

Well crap. I had to shut down my 3700X Ryzen system from crunching until I find a better CPU cooler.

The one I have on it now is a Corsair 115i or something like that. It is doing horrible at cooling the CPU. Thinking it may have lost fluid prior to me getting it. (Got it used for very cheap).

While crunching the system jumps up to 79-82C!!!!

Hell, even if I run a video card demanding game it jumps up in the mid 70's range.

Heck, even a stock Ryzen cooler would probably do better.


So, does anyone have some advice on a decent Ryzen cooler that isn't stupid expensive?

I've been using the Kraken X63's on my 3900X's, they seem to work pretty well, keeping the CPU about 50 to 55C under full load @stinger608 Might be an idea to try and play about with the voltage settings, I've set mine to about 1.10Vcore in both my systems, to try and keep the temps as low as possible Uses about 140w under a full load for the full system as well, I think it's doing pretty well Depending on the silicone lottery as well for your 3700X, it might be better Have you tried a repaste on the CPU at all? Can you hear the pump working etc.? Have you tried a re-seat at all?

The only reason for the AIO cooler I bought was RAM clearance, just my luck I buy something and the damn thing is like 2mm too big to fit the cooler on properly!!