WCG-TPU Cruncher's Hardware/Tech Support Discussion Thread

[PaulieG]

Well crap. I had to shut down my 3700X Ryzen system from crunching until I find a better CPU cooler.

The one I have on it now is a Corsair 115i or something like that. It is doing horrible at cooling the CPU. Thinking it may have lost fluid prior to me getting it. (Got it used for very cheap).

While crunching the system jumps up to 79-82C!!!!

Hell, even if I run a video card demanding game it jumps up in the mid 70's range.

Heck, even a stock Ryzen cooler would probably do better.


So, does anyone have some advice on a decent Ryzen cooler that isn't stupid expensive?

Well, "stupid expensive" is a relative term. I've tried basically all of the better AIO's on the market and the EK 240 or 360 and the AC Freezer II are the best on the market price vs. performance. However, if you are looking for a good budget cooler, The Thermalright Peerless Assassin is by far the best cooler I've used under $50 in terms of quality, performance, price and ease of install.

Amazon.com: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 CPU Air Cooler, 6 Heat Pipes, Dual 120mm TL-C12 PWM Fan,Aluminium Heatsink Cover, AGHP Technology, for AMD AM4/Intel 115X/1200/2066 : Electronics

 

[stinger608]

Well, "stupid expensive" is a relative term. I've tried basically all of the better AIO's on the market and the EK 240 or 360 and the AC Freezer II are the best on the market price vs. performance. However, if you are looking for a good budget cooler, The Thermalright Peerless Assassin is by far the best cooler I've used under $50 in terms of quality, performance, price and ease of install.

Amazon.com: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 CPU Air Cooler, 6 Heat Pipes, Dual 120mm TL-C12 PWM Fan,Aluminium Heatsink Cover, AGHP Technology, for AMD AM4/Intel 115X/1200/2066 : Electronics

Yeppers, that is about the budget price I was looking for!

Thanks a ton Paul!!!!!!

 

[phill]

I was having a look for this cooler and I can't see it at all over in the UK @stinger608 please let us know what it's like!! Might ask a mate in the US to grab us a couple....

 

[Recca29]

I need some help in configuring BOINC to use both GPUs.

I just installed the 1050ti from my other CPU to my main one, so that i can do some WCG tasks with it.
BOINC is running 2 GPU tasks but they are running on only my main GPU:1060.

i have tried updating the cc_config.xml file and it showing "Config: use all coprocessors". and both my GPUs are showing up in the logs but there is no GPU activity in Task manager.

logs:
28/01/2022 11:08:42 | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (driver version 511.23, CUDA version 11.6, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3474MB available, 4632 GFLOPS peak)
28/01/2022 11:08:42 | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (driver version 511.23, CUDA version 11.6, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3375MB available, 2138 GFLOPS peak)
28/01/2022 11:08:42 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (driver version 511.23, device version OpenCL 3.0 CUDA, 6144MB, 3474MB available, 4632 GFLOPS peak)
28/01/2022 11:08:42 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (driver version 511.23, device version OpenCL 3.0 CUDA, 6144MB, 3474MB available, 4632 GFLOPS peak)
28/01/2022 11:08:42 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (driver version 511.23, device version OpenCL 3.0 CUDA, 4096MB, 3375MB available, 2138 GFLOPS peak)
28/01/2022 11:08:42 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (driver version 511.23, device version OpenCL 3.0 CUDA, 4096MB, 3375MB available, 2138 GFLOPS peak)
28/01/2022 11:08:42 | | Processor: 16 AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Eight-Core Processor [Family 23 Model 1 Stepping 1]

 

[Caring1]

Did you restart the client?
"<use_all_gpus>0|1</use_all_gpus> If 1, use all GPUs (otherwise only the most capable ones are used). Requires a client restart."

 

[Recca29]

Did you restart the client?
"<use_all_gpus>0|1</use_all_gpus> If 1, use all GPUs (otherwise only the most capable ones are used). Requires a client restart."

changed it to 1, restarted. after the change i am getting "Config: use all coprocessors"in the logs.
but no effect.

 

[mstenholm]

Going by the amount of points you normally gets then you only grab 20 OPNG per day. There is absolutely no need to add an extra GPU to help with that workload. Even if you could make it work all you gain is the extra 15W for running an idle 1050. I can’t figure out why it doesn’t work, I ran two identical GPUs when we had all the jobs we could handle and stopped when we didn’t since one GPU was plenty. Now its only my 7770 that always have a queue. Even my 970 does run dry several times a day.

As for how many OPNGs you actually get I suggest to use the sort function, chose your PC and OPN and complete. The ONPGs will be on top, you might need to scroll to the next 25.

I will follow your points and when they excess 40.000 you might need a second GPU. My guesstimate.

 

[phill]

This might help?

There should be two files, I'll find the install links when I get home but the folders are in AppData, Bonic

 

[mstenholm]

This might help?

There should be two files, I'll find the install links when I get home but the folders are in AppData, Bonic

This app_config will let you run 12 jobs simultaneously. If you use it I suggest starting with 2 and 0.5, not 12 and 0.08333. That file is not the solution to the problem at hand, it’s optimization.

 

[phill]

This app_config will let you run 12 jobs simultaneously. If you use it I suggest starting with 2 and 0.5, not 12 and 0.08333. That file is not the solution to the problem at hand, it’s optimization.

I should have said to adjust that bit for your GPUs, but the one below it was the useful one I hoped

@Recca29 This is the link I mentioned I'd post up when I got home... I hope that clears it up and helps

 

[VulkanBros]

I removed my projects and added (as noted in the "Notices" in the BOINC client)

Home World Community Grid enables anyone with a computer or Android device to donate their unused computing power to advance cutting-edge scientific research on topics related to health and sustainability. master.worldcommunitygrid.org

and there where "Transfers" but there are no "Tasks" - any suggestions?

 

[mstenholm]

I removed my projects and added (as noted in the "Notices" in thee BOINC client)

Home World Community Grid enables anyone with a computer or Android device to donate their unused computing power to advance cutting-edge scientific research on topics related to health and sustainability. master.worldcommunitygrid.org

and there where "Transfers" but there are no "Tasks" - any suggestions?

This has been a source of frustrations for many but ignore it. It’s officially a mistake. As to no task - they did a test where they sent out jobs for less than a hour. Next time they do that? We don’t know but follow the official forum.

Edit: The official WCG forum

 

[KLiKzg]

Has anybody got some problems with cooling? Summer is coming.

So here is how I have solved an issue with Lenovo C30 problem.
Also, this is how I have solved the same issue on Dell T5500.

Anybody else?

 

[1freedude]

My 24 thread machine is not showing up on devices page in website account. The 12 thread machine that is sitting right next to it is showing up.

I downloaded the prog from the wcg account onto 24t ran it, then used same download file to install onto 12t. I noticed that the 24t was not on the list of devices, so I downloaded the installer again. All of the xml config files are up to date.

Any clues? The work is completing successfully, but not sure if it's anonymous donation right now.

I'll be away from the 'net til tomorrow.

 

[Norton]

My 24 thread machine is not showing up on devices page in website account. The 12 thread machine that is sitting right next to it is showing up.

I downloaded the prog from the wcg account onto 24t ran it, then used same download file to install onto 12t. I noticed that the 24t was not on the list of devices, so I downloaded the installer again. All of the xml config files are up to date.

Any clues? The work is completing successfully, but not sure if it's anonymous donation right now.

I'll be away from the 'net til tomorrow.

Restart the PC and check the "event log"... that will tell you what user name it's logged in as and the machine name. Iirc this issue has been reported a few times on the wcg forum.

EDIT
2 rigs are showing up here

World Community Grid - host stats - 1freedude | BOINCstats/BAM!

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I have 5 systems crunching. 4 of them have Microsoft assigned system names and the other one I changed. The one I changed does NOT show up under devices. It is there under results, and FreeDC shows that I am getting credit for it.

It's s mystery to me.

 

[mstenholm]

My 24 thread machine is not showing up on devices page in website account. The 12 thread machine that is sitting right next to it is showing up.

I downloaded the prog from the wcg account onto 24t ran it, then used same download file to install onto 12t. I noticed that the 24t was not on the list of devices, so I downloaded the installer again. All of the xml config files are up to date.

Any clues? The work is completing successfully, but not sure if it's anonymous donation right now.

I'll be away from the 'net til tomorrow.

It’s a known problem Missing devices but as @Norton pointed out the points are on your account.

 

[1freedude]

Thanks guys. The stats page Norton linked to has more details than my own account shows :shrug:

 

[phill]

You've always got this page too - Free-DC Stats page

Sometimes they do take a little while to show but as long as you are getting the credit for it Also just make a check on the account for hiding the machines and such, it should apply to all that you link to on your account, but just a thought You know the turn off turn on phrase we all use and live by... Might work

 

[1freedude]

Thanks a million guys. Tons of useful info. I knew the points where getting out, but traxking down what machine was doing what by way of my account on WCG had me pulling my hair out. I had to go up one more layer to BOINC.

Thanks for setting me straight.

And, thanks Phill for all of the updates.

 

[phill]

Thanks a million guys. Tons of useful info. I knew the points where getting out, but traxking down what machine was doing what by way of my account on WCG had me pulling my hair out. I had to go up one more layer to BOINC.

Thanks for setting me straight.

And, thanks Phill for all of the updates.

It's what everyone is here for, helping each other I can hopefully play a small part in it too. Oh WCG will have a list of your devices too, just look 'ere

Points will be a little out compared to Boinc and Free-DC but I always take note of the device rather than the points. They do whatever they do, I'm just happy to be able to put some of the hardware I have to good use
If there's anything else you need, just let us know

 

[1freedude]

That page is why I asked for help...24 threads missing from Devices

 

[phill]

That page is why I asked for help...24 threads missing from Devices

Do you have a screen grab of it so we can see what you mean? Not all of my devices show, so I have to set to show all type thing... Or does it still not show there?

 

[1freedude]

It's all good. Plenty of help to show that 24t is part of BOINC, even if WCG doesn't know it!

 

[phill]

In the screen shot, if its not showing, where it says Install Date, just click onto it and set it too anytime or something like that, it might show up then But if there's threads about missing devices and such like, its probably just needs a tweak their side anyways and as long as you're getting the points