What 16gb ddr4 ram for a desktop pc ?

[RealNeil]

So gasolin,

Did you get your system up and running properly?

 

[gasolin]

So gasolin,

Did you get your system up and running properly?

Yes,no

It's running fine with my ram at 2400mhz (they are not on the qvl list) at cpu at 4ghz (stock,on aut it boost up to 4.2ghz).

Tried to oc to 4.1 ghz but sort of failed just buy changing multiplier to 41, vcore, loadline calibration, settinge vddr cpu and soc current capability to 120-130,changing xpu,soc power phase control to extreme it failed in ibt (setting vcore and the power phase control,soc,cpu current capability to more normal values and 4ghz it ran ibt fine)

I was hoping for 4.2ghz on all cores at max 1.4 volt

I didn't as i hoped for get my new ram yesterday but wil get them tomorrow where i also will try to oc it again to 4.1 ghz, also i receive my 2'nd scythe mugen 5 fan later next week so i can try to oc a bit more.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I'm sure you're better off on auto with 2nd gen Ryzen anyway as XFR and PBO will boost as high or higher as a manual OC, what's your RAM's rated speed?

 

[gasolin]

3200mhz but it's the old ram that would run stable at 3200mhz

I just feel cpu speed is fluctuating a bit to much at auto (speed)

 

[NdMk2o1o]

it will jump up and down continuously though as long as it stays stable under load I wouldn't worry about, have you ordered some RAM from the QVL now?

 

[gasolin]

I did mention that Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 C15 BK DC - 16GB there is alot more 3000mhz cl 15 ram on the qvl list and then 3200mhz ram and cheaper than 3200mhz ram

12x 3200mhz ram on the qvl list Min 87x 3000mhz on the qvl list 4x 2933mhz ram on the qvl list (LOL)

 

[RealNeil]

it will jump up and down continuously though as long as it stays stable under load I wouldn't worry about

This. Good advice.

Mine is running rock solid doing its own thing (faster or slower) when it wants to. And as I said before, if Wifey is happy with it, I am too.
Gonna build an I7-9900K starting in a few minutes. Hoping to get it to 5.1 or so, all of the time.

Your new RAM and the extra CPU cooler fan just may make a big difference in the way it runs. Good luck with it.

 

[gasolin]

And it's a binned chip (x) right?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I really rate Asrock boards, I've had constant bios updates for 2 years and apart from maybe the first bios, all the RAM I have used on it has been able to run at it's rated speed even when I had 2 mismatched sticks of ddr4 2800, one was corsair and the other was gskill I think, but they ran together at 2800mhz for the best part of a year and a half. The teamgroup ones in my specs aren't even in the QVL but ran at 3000 16.18.18 their rated speed as soon as I popped them in and now run at 3200 14.17.17 happily, can't seem to get above 3200 though I'm thinking that's probably more down to the 1st gen Ryzen IMC than the RAM.

 

[RealNeil]

And it's a binned chip (x) right?

It was one that AMD provided to a reviewer when they first came out. So it may be a binned chip.
I got it about 8 months ago.

I really rate Asrock boards, I've had constant bios updates for 2 years and apart from maybe the first bios, all the RAM I have used on it has been able to run at it's rated speed even when I had 2 mismatched sticks of ddr4 2800, one was corsair and the other was gskill I think, but they ran together at 2800mhz for the best part of a year and a half. The teamgroup ones in my specs aren't even in the QVL but ran at 3000 16.18.18 their rated speed as soon as I popped them in and now run at 3200 14.17.17 happily, can't seem to get above 3200 though I'm thinking that's probably more down to the 1st gen Ryzen IMC than the RAM.

ASRock makes fine boards. I just sold a Z270 ASRock board to a friend with a 7700K part in it. That one was solid too.

 

[gasolin]

Strange it only runs cl 16 when i have set it to 15 in the bios https://valid.x86.fr/pyqf2a 3000mhz cl 15 is surpose to be as fast as 3200 mhz cl 16 so i might try oc to 3200mhz cl 16

 

[Lorec]

Strange it only runs cl 16 when i have set it to 15 in the bios https://valid.x86.fr/pyqf2a 3000mhz cl 15 is surpose to be as fast as 3200 mhz cl 16 so i might try oc to 3200mhz cl 16


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can You show SPD tab as well?

 

[gasolin]

yes strange, they wouldn't run 3200 mhz

 

[Lorec]

yes strange, they wouldn't run 3200 mhz

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These are not Flare X lol also these Corsair sticks are NOT Bdies.
samsung bdie list
Not on the list.

 

[gasolin]

I didn't say it's flare x ram
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...mory-QVL-Ryzen-2nd--Generation-processors.pdf

For some reasaon i can't se the version number of the ram since asus shows the ram edition ver3.23,5.29 or 5.30, all i can see is the ram is from 2015, i guess it's not 4 year old but that started making corsai vengance lpx ram in 2015

 

[Lorec]

I didn't say it's flare x ram, it's on the qvl list (don't know if you can see it)
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...mory-QVL-Ryzen-2nd--Generation-processors.pdf

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I can. Rated speed for ryzen 2nd gen: 3000mhz with CL15, there You go lol
Set XMP switch in bios or set Your timings accordingly to readout in cpu-z.
gentlemen, we are done here.

also

in this and other topic You created, from the beginning You were talking Flare X not working 3200mhz so dont confuse ppl who try to help...

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For some reasaon i can't se the version number of the ram since asus shows the ram edition ver3.23,5.29 or 5.30, all i can see is the ram is from 2015, i guess it's not 4 year old but that started making corsai vengance lpx ram in 2015

I dont see that info anywhere there.
I see sk hynix memories rated 3000mhz cl15. which is how its supposed to be.
You can try to OC Your ram to 3200mhz cl14.
It might or might not be possible.

 

[gasolin]

bios are set to 15 17 17 35

update it won't run the ram a cl 15 and i think the bios no matter what setting i use dcop or aut has problems setting the right value for Bank Cycle Time TRC i now have it at 52 in #61 the value is 70 although cpu z say 52.

It won't run cl 15, im surprised ram is still on some mb's a problem, first bios for my mb is from 2018/03/09 just a bit more than 1 year ago

 

[Lorec]

bios are set to 15 17 17 35

because that is their rated speed at xmp profile, good.
overclocking is another story, probably something You couldnt manage on Your own without more research.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency read this to learn more about latency.
also I encourage You to search for any ram oc tutorials on You mb.
good luck

 

[gasolin]

I can. Rated speed for ryzen 2nd gen: 3000mhz with CL15, there You go lol
Set XMP switch in bios or set Your timings accordingly to readout in cpu-z.
gentlemen, we are done here.

also

in this and other topic You created, from the beginning You were talking Flare X not working 3200mhz so dont confuse ppl who try to help...

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I dont see that info anywhere there.
I see sk hynix memories rated 3000mhz cl15. which is how its supposed to be.
You can try to OC Your ram to 3200mhz cl14.
It might or might not be possible.

I didn't confuse anybody i had flare x ram, just ordered corsair ram friday, got them today

If i didn't mentioned that my pc crashed when ram timings where 15 17 17 35 (trc on aut it was 70) now it's 15 17 17 35 and trc 52


Hwinfor64 and cpu z just shows 16 17 17 35 52 cpu on aut,vcore on aut

 

[Lorec]

I didn't confuse anybody i had flare x ram, just ordered corsair ram friday, got them today

If i didn't mentioned that my pc crashed when ram timings where 15 17 17 35 (trc on aut it was 70) now it's 15 17 17 35 and trc 52


Hwinfor64 and cpu z just shows 16 17 17 35 52 cpu on aut,vcore on aut

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12542/overclocking-the-amd-ryzen-apus-guide-results/5
like this? I mean did You set them by Yourself or did You load xmp profile like in this article?

 

[gasolin]

it just wants to set cl to 16 at 15 it crashes, bsod

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12542/overclocking-the-amd-ryzen-apus-guide-results/5
like this? I mean did You set them by Yourself or did You load xmp profile like in this article?

I set it manually, i can't run it at cl 15

I get problems when running them at 3000mhz 16 17 17 35 51 1t i managed to pass ibt at standard with the ran at 2993mhz 16 17 17 35 52 1t

 

[Lorec]

it just wants to set cl to 16 at 15 it crashes, bsodView attachment 120595



I set it manually, i can't run it at cl 15

I get problems when running them at 3000mhz 16 17 17 35 51 1t i managed to pass ibt at standard with the ran at 2993mhz 16 17 17 35 52 1t

listen, if those sticks are rated to work on xmp 2.0 at 3000mhz 15-17-17-35 1.35V, then first load those timings from a dedicated xmp profile.
Manual setting is for tigher timings those sticks werent meant for (but MIGHT possibly handle).

If they fail to run at rated speeds then return them to the shop.

 

[gasolin]

why return them ?

Don't you know ram on a ryzen mb can be tricky to get to run at there rated speed?

Xmp is for intel DCOP is for ryzen (atleast for ryzen) they won't run 15 17 17 17 35 1.35v using dcop bios sets the cl to 16

My ram ar these https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categ...lpx-black/p/CMK16GX4M2B3000C15#tab-tech-specs

 

[Lorec]

Don't you know ram on a ryzen mb can be tricky to get to run at there rated speed?

Well yes and no, specifically tested sticks will have their xmp working always, like those flare x`s you had before.
Those sticks You have now are not tested for ryzen.

Oh well, that means You have to test timings until You find a configuration that works.

 

[gasolin]

the corasir ram is on the Qvl list

I remember from experience that ram for ryzen only ran 2666 mhz if you where lucky, when ryzen was new, in it's early stage.

I have had ryzen mb's where my flare x didn't run faster then 2933mhz.

Many people say get ram from the Qvl list it's the best