What phone you use as your daily driver? And, a discussion of them.

[tabascosauz]

That's awesome. I recall reading somewhere that the poor battery life at first is caused by the phone running some machine learning algorithm to optimize to the owner's usage patterns, and that once Android finishes running all of these subroutines and clears the background app optimization schedule, the battery life would achieve its expected value. It was in some pitch about neural network acceleration capabilities in one of these phones' SoC marketing papers, but it does kind of make sense.

I purchased AccuBattery Pro last year or so, great app. Only have one phone it doesn't work with, an old LG G3 where it reports probably 10x+ the actual battery statistics for some reason.

Yeah, I think that's the Adaptive Battery feature. I tried it multiple times but it torpedos both performance and battery life so I gave up. Having it enabled allows both algorithmic but also manual optimization, each app has an entry under Developer Options>Standby Apps that can be changed between various options like Active/Frequent/Rare/Restricted. Adaptive Battery just introduces too much random stuttering/hiccups. I want it to optimize background apps, not negatively impact foreground activity.

Might get Accubattery Pro when I unlock and root again - 7a just got listed for official EvolutionX just yesterday I think I'm re-locked for now just waiting on the dev scene to unfold. I had to cross-reference with Accubattery with the POCO F3, they are similar now for both figures but in the past few days the power draw on the Pixel was just obscene.

Makes me wonder what Tensor G2 could do if it had access to TSMC N4. In the past few years Samsung has been reducing everything it touches to a pile of shit. Exynos 5300 is also quite slow to connect on a restart, Fastconnect 6800 always connects much faster to wifi and data.

First release for the first official custom ROM for lynx, and already running like a top

 

[Dr. Dro]

Oh sweet, you managed to root it, awesome. How's the SafetyNet thing going with these ROMs? I might end up rooting my S10+ down the road, with Samsung having abandoned it, as Android 12 ages I imagine they will eventually discontinue support for things like Samsung Wallet on it.

 

[tabascosauz]

Oh sweet, you managed to root it, awesome. How's the SafetyNet thing going with these ROMs? I might end up rooting my S10+ down the road, with Samsung having abandoned it, as Android 12 ages I imagine they will eventually discontinue support for things like Samsung Wallet on it.

No root actually, no problems with Safetynet. It seems like the problem usually comes from root, not custom ROM. Though, I'm not sure why the stock Pixel ROM automatically breaks Safetynet with only a bootloader unlock, while still unrooted.

I never had any problems with Safetynet on my F3, because while I flashed ROMs like a maniac I never actually rooted any of them. Simply wasn't any need to, for example ROMs like Corvus and EvoX come with a ton of their own customization options, all of which work without root. I went through PE, Corvus, Arrow, EvoX, crDroid, Lineage, Pixel Extended, and maybe a few others without problems.

These days I think flashing is generally separate from rooting (at least on Xiaomi and Google, which are pretty open about this stuff). All you need to flash is an unlocked bootloader and your PC set up with the usual suspects, adb and fastboot. In the old days, definitely, rooting came first. That's part of the reason why I stayed away from the $500 Edge+ 2022; they are easy to root but root is borderline meaningless to me. I want big name stable ROMs with OTA support.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Big name stable ROMs with OTA support... hey phone makers, reading this thread?

Those years are blind spots for me as well. I used an iPhone SE 1st gen through these, and I loved that phone. Fast, compact, well-supported, compatible with extremely cheap cases and gadgets developed for the iPhone 5s, technical support was great - authorized Apple repairs were both available and affordable. It even qualified for that super discounted battery replacement over the whole throttling debacle - Apple Store had my phone fixed up in an hour. It truly was one of the greats, despite its small size.

 

[tabascosauz]

Super fun times with Apple. Only two things keep me from going back, the price and the few Android-exclusive apps I need.

My all-time favourite phone was my white iPhone 6S. Perfect size, wrapped up in a white Pelican Protector case that is to this day the highest quality and QC phone case I have ever used. Ended on a sad note though, battery life was never that good and battery health deteriorated quite a bit by the end.

 

[mb194dc]

Still on pixel 4, had it 3 years now I think. If I change will probably be to another one.

What gains in the real world are there from the last few genetically?

 

[Dr. Dro]

Still on pixel 4, had it 3 years now I think. If I change will probably be to another one.

What gains in the real world are there from the last few genetically?

It's still a decent phone with SD855, but you'll find that the experience got quite refined if you're coming from a phone from the S10 generation (2019). The CPU portion has gotten faster, but it is graphics performance in particular has advanced quite a lot since then. 5G networks are way faster... I think it's worth upgrading.

If you don't have the habit of playing games or much media on your phone, though, nor the faster networking interests you, safe to sit on your phone for another round. It'll be comfy.

 

[lexluthermiester]

This was the right call, it seems; screen off current draw finally started coming down today. With adaptive battery off.

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Um, turn off your location....

 

[Airman135]

Hi,
I have plan to buy Blackview BL8800pro because i need a thermal camera.
Do you have someone that have the same phone? I need a real feedback before bying it.

 

[silentbogo]

I have plan to buy Blackview BL8800pro because i need a thermal camera.

On its own - it's fine. Thermal camera is about as good as my FlirOne(same sensor, but yours has better optics apparently), good enough for basic stuff.
Though, keep in mind that you can get a decent modern USB-C thermal camera for half the price and have an option of using it with any phone, or leaving it at home if not needed.
After watching few reviews of the new Infray C200- based devices I'm actually thinking of swapping my Flir for it (I may even get few $$ in profit if everything goes right).
Something like Infiray P2 Pro/ T2 Pro or similar is what I'm eyeing ATM.

 

[tabascosauz]

Big name stable ROMs with OTA support...

This one was a bitter pill to swallow. I only had a few days to experiment with EvolutionX on the Pixel 7a, which was an excellent ROM. Fortunately, OneUI 5 is shockingly full-featured, even unrooted. Every day I'm surprised. I've been a AOSP purist for years and ragged on Samsung.

Now that I've spent about a week with the S23 and its battery life has finally settled down it's pretty obvious that the Pixel 7a standby is just terrible. Finally there's a full review out on it too. I usually am skeptical about gsmarena battery test numbers but it exactly mirrors my screen-off idle experience with the 7a. Appalling, even more so since without the full review everyone would just assume the battery life would be similar to the 7 (even 4380mah vs 4350mah, similar screen, same hardware).

Google Pixel 7a review

The Pixel 7a maintains the display diagonal of the old model at 6.1 inches, and that's a tiny bit less than the Pixel 7's 6.3 inches. The 1,080x2,400px...

www.gsmarena.com

With some minor adjustments to habits, some tweaks to apps, turning off location and BT when not in use, and connecting to wifi where possible, S23 easily keeps up with 1hr SOT per 10%, and screen off drain is decent too:

 

[Dr. Dro]

That's awesome to hear. Battery on the Flip 3 is terrible, but I knew that already when I got it. I'm still thinking whether should I flip it (pun intended) it keep it... at this point might as well keep it and buy another phone down the road when this one is no good anymore. I did go through the trouble of having the screen film replaced after all. Guess next inevitable time it happens I'll do it.

I'm surprised that Google's first party phone has such issues, but I guess it's to be somewhat expected... Android's always been rough, it's easy to forget that with all the optimizations that Samsung builds into the Galaxy phones, and I've been using Samsung for as long as it's been relevant, really. One UI 5 is a great improvement over 4.1, I wish the S10+ got that one last patch... for all the grief I gave this phone, it's probably the one that treated me the best back

 

[tabascosauz]

That's awesome to hear. Battery on the Flip 3 is terrible, but I knew that already when I got it. I'm still thinking whether should I flip it (pun intended) it keep it... at this point might as well keep it and buy another phone down the road when this one is no good anymore. I did go through the trouble of having the screen film replaced after all. Guess next inevitable time it happens I'll do it.

I'm surprised that Google's first party phone has such issues, but I guess it's to be somewhat expected... Android's always been rough, it's easy to forget that with all the optimizations that Samsung builds into the Galaxy phones, and I've been using Samsung for as long as it's been relevant, really. One UI 5 is a great improvement over 4.1, I wish the S10+ got that one last patch... for all the grief I gave this phone, it's probably the one that treated me the best back

The best battery life comes at the cost of aggressive background killing though. And a LOT of tweaks:

• No 5G, data saver
• Light mode (which still has same performance because all it does is cap Cortex-X3 to 2.8GHz)
• No wifi/BT always scanning, no wifi/BT location sharing, no BT music share
• Wifi stability priority, wifi power saving mode
• Lot of manual app tweaks, sleep, deep sleep, background data restrictions, etc.
• Probably a dozen more

But still, shockingly good for a 3780mah pack, and even with no tweaks it's still slightly better than the Pixel 7a with its 4380mah unit. And that 1hr/10% is with full brightness and 120Hz! Not to mention it doesn't get hot in non-gaming, ever. This has been a very pleasant welcome back to Samsung.

 

[Airman135]

On its own - it's fine. Thermal camera is about as good as my FlirOne(same sensor, but yours has better optics apparently), good enough for basic stuff.
Though, keep in mind that you can get a decent modern USB-C thermal camera for half the price and have an option of using it with any phone, or leaving it at home if not needed.
After watching few reviews of the new Infray C200- based devices I'm actually thinking of swapping my Flir for it (I may even get few $$ in profit if everything goes right).
Something like Infiray P2 Pro/ T2 Pro or similar is what I'm eyeing ATM.

Thank you for information. I need something with build in thermal camera. It is not confortable every time to connected to the phone.
Btw what about the battery? is it OK?

 

[Marcus Vinicus]

Samsung Galaxy S22

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

My moto g power is now 3.5 years old, still works, SoT isnt quite as good as it once was. Another year or so and the battery will likely be ready for replacement, which means new phone. I really wish we got the 6-7000 MaH phones in the states that they sell overseas.

I'm surprised that Google's first party phone has such issues, but I guess it's to be somewhat expected... Android's always been rough, it's easy to forget that with all the optimizations that Samsung builds into the Galaxy phones, and I've been using Samsung for as long as it's been relevant, really. One UI 5 is a great improvement over 4.1, I wish the S10+ got that one last patch... for all the grief I gave this phone, it's probably the one that treated me the best back

It's really not that surprising, anyone familiar with google nexus phones will know that google always struggled putting the package together. The only difference between the nexus and pixel lines has been price. Google has always been allergic to battery life. Kind alike how sony makes the cameras for all these phones, and the phones with the WORST camera software and backend is....the xperia line.

I have never understood that about Android phones, they only get updates for a couple of years?

The andoid system itself typically will onyl get 2-3 years of support.

The key here is that, unlike apple, android's apps can be updates outside the OS. Thing slike the play store, google play, gapps, ece can continuously be updates even if the kernel of the OS isnt, unlike apple where things like the app store are tied to the OS.

This means that while apple devices have longer supported lifespans, once they stop getting updates the clock ticks on when your apps will simply no longer function. 7-8 year old apple ipads running iOS 14 or older are not running into support issues. Meanwhile, up until last year many apps still ran on android 5. Most run on android 7 without issues today, and that OS is 5 years old now. Try doing that with iOS 11.

 

[Shou Miko]

Samsung Galaxy S22

Do you have the Exynos or Snapdragon version and how is battery?
I am asking because I am concidering trying Android again but this time the S22.

 

[Macro Device]

Maximally Excessive iFruit (aka iPhone Xs Max) and Hate Axe (aka Honor 8X) are my only phones at the moment. Can't tell much about them. One is shitty, tends to crash whilst using Telegram, has a borderline faulty battery and looks like something from medieval age and another phone is just a puny Droid-based piece of tech I got for 100 Euro.

Want myself something real, alas my budget is non-existent as of today.

 

[Marcus Vinicus]

Do you have the Exynos or Snapdragon version and how is battery?
I am asking because I am concidering trying Android again but this time the S22.

Hi @Shou Miko

Mine has a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 3.00 GHZ (checked using CPU-z)

Re the battery, I've never had any issues with it or found it to be power hungry.

 

[Ruru]

Still using the same iPhone 8 Plus. Thinking of swapping to a SE 3rd gen or a 12. Though it's still not neccessary for an upgrade yet.

 

[mechtech]

iphone 8, second hand for $100 (CAD) gonna use it till it dies or can get/find a newer/better 2nd hand phone for $100 (CAD)

 

[Ruru]

iphone 8, second hand for $100 (CAD) gonna use it till it dies or can get/find a newer/better 2nd hand phone for $100 (CAD)

Changed the battery already on my Plus and it give it some more life

 

[mechtech]

Changed the battery already on my Plus and it give it some more life

Mine says 85% life............

such a pain changing them...........be nice if one day can swap them out in 2 seconds like the old flip phones.

 

[Ruru]

Mine says 85% life............

such a pain changing them...........be nice if one day can swap them out in 2 seconds like the old flip phones.

I changed my battery in last october, managed to break the vibration motor but I got a spare part to replace my goofings.

 

[freeagent]

I am down to 82% on mine, still original battery from 2018. I was looking at new iphones, and man am I poor. My phone bill is already over 200 a month, I have 3 lines. Boooo.

Do I want a new battery? Yes, but no lol. I want a new phone

So does she

Dammit. I can only drag my ass for so long before she says something. I think her battery is in the 70s. Its a total turd.