System Name | Can it run Warhammer 3? |
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Processor | 7800X3D @ 5Ghz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX |
Cooling | Enermax Liqmax III 360mm |
Memory | Teamgroup DDR5 CL30 6000Mhz 32GB |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 4090 |
Storage | Silicon Power XS70, Corsair T700 |
Display(s) | BenQ EX2710Q, BenQEX270M |
Case | NZXT H7 Flow |
Audio Device(s) | AudioTechnica M50xBT |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex III 850W |
While I agree some fault lies with Windows, AMD didn’t have to release the product in this state and could have waited for the issues to be fixed.This has happened in the past, MSFT screwing AMD. Their OS is too slow or bs etc etc, need more scheduler lol. I'm not in a hurry so waiting for the chips to land where they're supposed to with the incoming patches is ok for me.
System Name | Not a thread ripper but pretty good. |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5950x |
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50) |
Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity2, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, D5 PWM, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) + JONSBO NF-1 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate |
Storage | Samsung 2TB & 4TB 980 PRO, 2TB 970 EVO Plus, 2 x Optane 905p 1.5TB (striped), AMD Radeon RAMDisk |
Display(s) | 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount) |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model) |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
Mouse | Logitech M575 |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional (64bit) |
Benchmark Scores | Typical for non-overclocked CPU. |
So basically if you want to use your shiny new CPU to the fullest either convert to Windows 11 24H2 or Linux. RIP Windows 10.There does seem to be a pretty good game performance improvement over W11 23H2 with 24H2 (not limited to just Zen 5, the 7800X3D in the video gets pretty substantial improvements too)
Processor | AMD 5900x |
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Motherboard | Asus x570 Strix-E |
Cooling | Hardware Labs |
Memory | G.Skill 4000c17 2x16gb |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3090 |
Storage | Sabrent |
Display(s) | Samsung G9 |
Case | Phanteks 719 |
Audio Device(s) | Fiio K5 Pro |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000 P2 |
Mouse | Logitech G600 |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 |
MSFT has always been aligned with Intel. Wait for issues to be fixed? That's a good one. This has happened a few times before with MSFT. Chicken or egg...While I agree some fault lies with Windows, AMD didn’t have to release the product in this state and could have waited for the issues to be fixed.
Ask me if I care, go ahead... The real benchmarks show the facts. Facts are facts and no one can refute them with any merit whatsoever.Other posts have already refuted that point.
System Name | S.L.I + RTX research rig |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X 3D. |
Motherboard | MSI MEG ACE X570 |
Cooling | Corsair H150i Cappellx |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance pro RGB 3200mhz 16Gbs |
Video Card(s) | 2x Dell RTX 2080 Ti in S.L.I |
Storage | Western digital Sata 6.0 SDD 500gb + fanxiang S660 4TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 |
Display(s) | HP X24i |
Case | Corsair 7000D Airflow |
Power Supply | EVGA G+1600watts |
Mouse | Corsair Scimitar |
Keyboard | Cosair K55 Pro RGB |
I seriously wonder if the 2 ahead branch prediction is someone getting picked up by the spectre patches & it's seeing the extra instructions as a "trojan" injecting extra instructions, causing a premature flush of both micro-op caches & needed instructions. Which then causes front-end to not bother using the predicted instructions. Wendal from level1techs mentioned that Zen 5 is showing Cache misses on things that are usually never cache misses.Ask me if I care, go ahead... The real benchmarks show the facts. Facts are facts and no one can refute them with any merit whatsoever.
I seriously wonder if the 2 ahead branch prediction is someone getting picked up by the spectre patches & it's seeing the extra instructions as a "trojan" injecting extra instructions, causing a premature flush of both micro-op caches & needed instructions. Which then causes front-end to not bother using the predicted instructions. Wendal from level1techs mentioned that Zen 5 is showing Cache misses on things that are usually never cache misses.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
First you need to confirm it even exists. I have doubts frankly (if this was really going on performance should be lower than we are seeing in practice, as whats being described is not a cheap operation and should be happening always).How can this be fixed? A firmware update? A BIOS update? Zen 6?
System Name | Spam |
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Processor | i9-12900K PL1=125 TA=56 PL2=288 |
Motherboard | MSI MAG B660M Mortar WiFi DDR4 |
Cooling | Scythe Kaze Flex 120mm ARGB Fans x1 / Alphacool Eisbaer 360 |
Memory | Mushkin Red Line DDR4 4000 16Gb x2 18-22-22-42 1T |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse RX 7900 XT |
Storage | Team Group MP33 512Mb / 1Tb |
Display(s) | SAMSUNG Odyssey G50A (LS27AG500PNXZA) (2560x1440) |
Case | Lan-Li A3 |
Audio Device(s) | Real Tek on Board Audio |
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GM |
Mouse | M910-K |
Keyboard | K636CLO |
Software | WIN 11 Pro |
Well, according to MSI, they tweaked their latest BIOS and you can now adjust it to get 15% more boost when gamming. Link: Boost the Performance of AMD Ryzen 9000 by 15%. How True it is, has yet to be determined and we will have to see as the updated BIOS's come out, but I do be leave that there will be some performance gains from future driver and firmware updates. Also, both Intel and AMD have done this in the past with firmware updates as well as Nvidia and AMD with their graphics drivers as well.First you need to confirm it even exists. I have doubts frankly (if this was really going on performance should be lower than we are seeing in practice, as whats being described is not a cheap operation and should be happening always).
Rejects was too strong a word, hence the reason I put it in quotes. All the CCDs are tested b/4 assembly. The CCDs with the best electrostatic properties are reserved for the best EPYC CPUs. The CCDs we get for desktop, particularly this early on, have higher leakage CCDs. They perform well at high frequencies, but at a higher energy cost. The Zen5 CCDs, so far, appear to have had a major focus on power efficiency. This will work out very well for Hyperscalers using EPYC CPU as they will give higher perf/watt. The highest operational cost for these huge server farms is electricity; both the power and to cool the server blades.You don't know if calling the chips rejects is accurate.
System Name | Cumquat 2021 |
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Processor | AMD RyZen R7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Asus Strix X670E - E Gaming WIFI |
Cooling | Deep Cool LT720 + CM MasterGel Pro TP + Lian Li Uni Fan V2 |
Memory | 32GB GSkill Trident Z5 Neo 6000 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Nitro+ OC RX6800 16GB DDR6 2270Cclk / 2010Mclk |
Storage | 1x Adata SX8200PRO NVMe 1TB gen3 x4 1X Samsung 980 Pro NVMe Gen 4 x4 1TB, 12TB of HDD Storage |
Display(s) | AOC 24G2 IPS 144Hz FreeSync Premium 1920x1080p |
Case | Lian Li O11D XL ROG edition |
Audio Device(s) | RX6800 via HDMI + Pioneer VSX-531 amp Technics 100W 5.1 Speaker set |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000W G5 Gold |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core Wired |
Keyboard | Logitech G915 Wireless |
Software | Windows 11 X64 PRO (build 23H2) |
Benchmark Scores | it sucks even more less now ;) |
That pretty much because they are Epyc cores in in a desktop CPUThis will work out very well for Hyperscalers using EPYC CPU as they will give higher perf/watt
System Name | Not a thread ripper but pretty good. |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5950x |
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50) |
Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity2, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, D5 PWM, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) + JONSBO NF-1 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate |
Storage | Samsung 2TB & 4TB 980 PRO, 2TB 970 EVO Plus, 2 x Optane 905p 1.5TB (striped), AMD Radeon RAMDisk |
Display(s) | 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount) |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model) |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
Mouse | Logitech M575 |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional (64bit) |
Benchmark Scores | Typical for non-overclocked CPU. |
Design changes can have unintended consequences and/or tradeoffs since it's impossible to optimize everything all the time past and future. I do have very similar questions on how some performance regressions have manifested too compared to last gen but I'll have to wait for those answers.It is obvious that Zen 5 is borked. The question is what exactly causes the performance regression, and why it's allowed by AMD's design teams to even exist? Why didn't they cancel this launch, as it proves it is utter failure and disappointment on so many fronts?
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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X Review - The New Flagship
With 16 cores and 32 threads, the Ryzen 9 9950X, powered by AMD’s Zen 5 architecture, is the fastest desktop processor we've ever tested. In our review, it breezed through application workloads and delivered high FPS rates in gaming. But at $650, it doesn’t come cheap.www.techpowerup.com
Yes, OFC. That is the most important market for AMD.That pretty much because they are Epyc cores in in a desktop CPU
From an upgraders perspective this graph below makes more sense.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
Nice misleading graph crop dude.It is obvious that Zen 5 is borked. The question is what exactly causes the performance regression, and why it's allowed by AMD's design teams to even exist? Why didn't they cancel this launch, as it proves it is utter failure and disappointment on so many fronts?
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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X Review - The New Flagship
With 16 cores and 32 threads, the Ryzen 9 9950X, powered by AMD’s Zen 5 architecture, is the fastest desktop processor we've ever tested. In our review, it breezed through application workloads and delivered high FPS rates in gaming. But at $650, it doesn’t come cheap.www.techpowerup.com
Fixing it by firmware I can believe. It being related to spectre fixes interfering I cannot.Well, according to MSI, they tweaked their latest BIOS and you can now adjust it to get 15% more boost when gamming. Link: Boost the Performance of AMD Ryzen 9000 by 15%. How True it is, has yet to be determined and we will have to see as the updated BIOS's come out, but I do be leave that there will be some performance gains from future driver and firmware updates. Also, both Intel and AMD have done this in the past with firmware updates as well as Nvidia and AMD with their graphics drivers as well.
Another thing that I have pondered (speculated) over, is latest rumor about AMD, is them releasing a 7600x3D CPU in September and the reason they are releasing their 9000x3D chips next year, is that they are splitting the two into their own families of processors. One for the average PC workload and the other for performance use like gamming, witch kinds of makes sense in a way. So, you would have the work CPU family, 9600X, 9700X, 9900X, 9950X and the performance CPU family, 9600x3D, 9700x3D, 9900x3D, 9950x3D with SMT working differently between the families.
Processor | 5950x |
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Motherboard | B550 ProArt |
Cooling | Fuma 2 |
Memory | 4x32GB 3200MHz Corsair LPX |
Video Card(s) | 2x RTX 3090 |
Display(s) | LG 42" C2 4k OLED |
Power Supply | XPG Core Reactor 850W |
Software | I use Arch btw |
As someone on a 5950x, I'll gladly take a 25W increase in consumption (which is really insignificant compared to the 500W+ of both my GPUs) for a ~87% perf uplift in average (and even higher for some daily tasks of mine that I already mentioned before)It doesn't. Look, the AM5 platform is utter garbage:
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Review - Impressive 16-core Powerhouse
The Ryzen 9 7950X is a monster CPU. When paired with the right workload it will eat even the 12900K for breakfast. As our review shows, the performance uplifts can be massive: +30-50% gen-over-gen is totally possible. What makes things complicated though, is that keeping the beast cool is almost...www.techpowerup.com
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
Just ignore the performance per watt right below being massively better why don't ya.It doesn't. Look, the AM5 platform is utter garbage:
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Review - Impressive 16-core Powerhouse
The Ryzen 9 7950X is a monster CPU. When paired with the right workload it will eat even the 12900K for breakfast. As our review shows, the performance uplifts can be massive: +30-50% gen-over-gen is totally possible. What makes things complicated though, is that keeping the beast cool is almost...www.techpowerup.com
System Name | I don't name my rig |
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Processor | 14700K |
Motherboard | Asus Strix B660-G (clock gen) |
Cooling | Air/water/DryIce |
Memory | DDR5 G.Skill Z5 RGB 6000mhz C36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4070 Super |
Storage | 980 Pro |
Display(s) | Some LED 1080P TV |
Case | Open bench |
Audio Device(s) | Some Old Sherwood stereo and old cabinet speakers |
Power Supply | Corsair 1050w HX series |
Mouse | Razor Mamba Tournament Edition |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 |
VR HMD | Quest 2 |
Software | Windows |
Benchmark Scores | Max Freq 13700K 6.7ghz DryIce Max Freq 14700K 7.0ghz DryIce Max all time Freq FX-8300 7685mhz LN2 |
System Name | Not a thread ripper but pretty good. |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5950x |
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50) |
Cooling | EK-Quantum Velocity2, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, D5 PWM, EK-CoolStream PE 360, XSPC TX360 |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1) + JONSBO NF-1 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate |
Storage | Samsung 2TB & 4TB 980 PRO, 2TB 970 EVO Plus, 2 x Optane 905p 1.5TB (striped), AMD Radeon RAMDisk |
Display(s) | 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount) |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model) |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x |
Mouse | Logitech M575 |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2 |
Software | Windows 10 Professional (64bit) |
Benchmark Scores | Typical for non-overclocked CPU. |
I don't see how you can make that assertion rationally based on a single metric.It doesn't. Look, the AM5 platform is utter garbage:
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Review - Impressive 16-core Powerhouse
The Ryzen 9 7950X is a monster CPU. When paired with the right workload it will eat even the 12900K for breakfast. As our review shows, the performance uplifts can be massive: +30-50% gen-over-gen is totally possible. What makes things complicated though, is that keeping the beast cool is almost...www.techpowerup.com
I seriously wonder if the 2 ahead branch prediction is someone getting picked up by the spectre patches & it's seeing the extra instructions as a "trojan" injecting extra instructions, causing a premature flush of both micro-op caches & needed instructions. Which then causes front-end to not bother using the predicted instructions. Wendal from level1techs mentioned that Zen 5 is showing Cache misses on things that are usually never cache misses.
I'm not convinced either. At the very least, we need to see a functional(not theoretical) proof of concept.First you need to confirm it even exists. I have doubts frankly (if this was really going on performance should be lower than we are seeing in practice, as whats being described is not a cheap operation and should be happening always).
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
I have HPET enabled on my RigIn order for reviewers to take accurate data measurements, HPET needs to be enabled in W8 and up. This will help prevent skewed benchmark results.
In competitive benchmarking, any results with HPET disabled are actually invalid. Windows HPET is disabled by default.
Gotta open CMD as admin. Type in.
Bcdedit /set useplatformclock true.
Hit enter.
Restart PC.
If your scores seem different, at least you know they are accurate. There won't be any clock skewing going on.
Don't argue with igorance man, they prove it by 0.000000000000000000001 secondI don't see how you can make that assertion rationally based on a single metric.
Was power management not a thing back then or now? Ok let me get back on point.
I'm pretty sure your trolling me but for the sake of argument.
In reality if you are being productive and/or making money the increase in watts can be trivial/acceptable/not-a-problem compared to the gains. Let's say I have a workload of 7zip compression that I do at least 52 weeks a year for about an hour. ( I actually do weekly backups of my virtual machines. )
Multi-core Power Consumption: 5950x 118w
Multi-core Power Consumption: 7950x 235w
Workload: 7zip compression (7950x is about 27% better)
References
- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x/15.html
- https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x/24.html
118w * 1.0hr = 118.0w
235w * 0.7hr = 164.5w
0.3hrs of my time weekly = not trivial
15.6 hours of my time per year = priceless
( 7950x just paid for itself assuming I didn't screw up my math )
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5" |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
How good or bad a platform is is measured in Watts on a randomly selected CPU in a randomly selected group of applications without any consideration of performance, don't ya' know?Just ignore the performance per watt right below being massively better why don't ya.
I honestly have no idea how we got to this degree of armchair silicon engineering on the internet.Agree with the fellow users:
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AMD Ryzen 9 9950X drops to $623, 9900X now $449 in the US, with prices slashed up to 12% in Germany - VideoCardz.com
Ryzen 9000 gets first price cuts Not official AMD price cuts, but retailer price cuts. The AMD Ryzen 9000 series has arrived, with at least four SKUs already announced and launched. However, a few things need to be finalized before the full transition to the new platform can be declared...videocardz.com