Windows 10 LTSC

[Shrek]

Windows IoT Enterprise LTSC | Microsoft Learn

Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 19044
End of Servicing
2032/01/13

Does this mean there is a way to keep using Windows 10 till 2032?

 

[Solaris17]

Did you click on any of the links to educate yourself on the editions before posting?

Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 - Microsoft Lifecycle

Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 follows the Fixed Lifecycle Policy.

learn.microsoft.com

 

[Shrek]

Yes, that is why I am asking the question.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Short answer - yes, if you pay the fee(s) for extended support. It is likely (IMHO) that MS will release a 2023 and/or a 2025 version of LTSC, meaning that 10 year extended support could stretch until 2035.

If you have enough money, you can use it forever. I believe that the US Navy is still using XP, and paying much money for security updates.

 

[theFOoL]

You likely think M$ will control your computer? Ha I Laugh. I have this Version (Yes sue me Cracked) nothing is secure these Days. Why can't ISP block these sites LOL

 

[Dr. Dro]

End of extended security servicing date is way past the software's intended shelf life, no matter how hard you try to drag this (and you can see this with enormous force by Windows 7 zealots and their activism to keep the OS alive). Software rot will take over, drivers will no longer be developed, etc. - Windows 7 has only recently reached this point, and from here on after, the software rot issue will reduce its usefulness over time.

Windows 10 version 22H2 (build 19045) is still very far from the point this will happen, but eventually it will happen to every OS. Best not to get too attached. All things must come to pass.

 

[Shrek]

It's not the OS I like (Windows 11 is fine), it's the hardware I want to keep running, so drivers should not be an issue.

 

[Dr. Dro]

It's not the OS I like (Windows 11 is fine), it's the hardware I want to keep running, so drivers should not be an issue.

Then that is the intended use case of LTSC builds - they're meant to be used in a single purpose machine with high uptime/long life scenario

 

[Vario]

LTSC is pretty good, I recommend it.

 

[sam_86314]

LTSC is pretty good, I recommend it.

I second this. Highly recommended if you don't care about feature updates.

All of my Windows machines run either LTSC 2019 or 2021.

 

[eidairaman1]

It's not the OS I like (Windows 11 is fine), it's the hardware I want to keep running, so drivers should not be an issue.

LTSC is pretty good, I recommend it.

I second this. Highly recommended if you don't care about feature updates.

All of my Windows machines run either LTSC 2019 or 2021.

I disabled WUD in 11 and use powershell to install updates Needed and nothing more. That right there fixed several problems with MS barbaric policies.

 

[natr0n]

Main drive is ltsc slightly outdated but dont care. I'll do a fresh update soon.

 

[Bill_Bright]

and from here on after, the software rot issue will reduce its usefulness over time.

Of course that depends on what it is used for. Many dedicated, specialized and typically single-purpose hardware devices were specifically designed to be used with a specific OS. POS (point of sales systems - like grocery checkout registers are a good example). As long as the hardware is not changed, the OS does not need to change. This is exactly why (besides the cost to replace and upgrade everything, and the necessary training to use and support the upgrades) XP and W7 are still being used on many government and corporate systems.

IMO, that's fine as long as (1) these systems are totally isolated from the Internet and (2), the cost to support them does not exceed the costs to totally upgrade, retool, support and retrain the personal to support the new systems.

It seems likely that eventually, the old hardware will die and replacement parts will no longer be available. Therefore, it also seems likely that eventually, even these old XP and W7 will finally be retired too. Of course then W10 will be on board that old boat and W30 will be the OS of the day.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Of course that depends on what it is used for. Many dedicated, specialized and typically single-purpose hardware devices were specifically designed to be used with a specific OS. POS (point of sales systems - like grocery checkout registers are a good example). As long as the hardware is not changed, the OS does not need to change. This is exactly why (besides the cost to replace and upgrade everything, and the necessary training to use and support the upgrades) XP and W7 are still being used on many government and corporate systems.

IMO, that's fine as long as (1) these systems are totally isolated from the Internet and (2), the cost to support them does not exceed the costs to totally upgrade, retool, support and retrain the personal to support the new systems.

It seems likely that eventually, the old hardware will die and replacement parts will no longer be available. Therefore, it also seems likely that eventually, even these old XP and W7 will finally be retired too. Of course then W10 will be on board that old boat and W30 will be the OS of the day.

Agreed but those systems use some form of tailored edition or deployment, they're not going to be used as regular desktop computers.

With the advent of rolling release semestral to yearly OS updates, a separate LTS channel became necessary, it previously existed as special versions such as POSReady 2009 that was basically a build of XP that was supported until 2019, now it's a separate update channel, same principle

 

[chrcoluk]

Yes but buying a license is a pain, you have to buy enough licenses of microsoft products to qualify then of course buy the expensive LTSC license.

Its easier if you can get it, to get an education copy, although that would just be the normal enterprise type updates but still later than normal consumer EOL and no app bloat.

 

[Shrek]

GoDeal24 Announces Big Summer Sale: Great Discounts on Genuine Software | TechPowerUp

Buy Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC at $9.14 | Buy Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC at $12.81

 

[chrcoluk]

GoDeal24 Announces Big Summer Sale: Great Discounts on Genuine Software | TechPowerUp

Buy Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC at $9.14 | Buy Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC at $12.81

Well I did type not legit, but given its a tpu link, maybe not.

Bear in mind though 2019 keys for LTSC cant be used on 21H2 LTSC.

I will buy one of those 2021 LTSC keys for my laptop and see if really is legit.

 

[Shrek]

Bear in mind though 2019 keys for LTSC cant be used on 21H2 LTSC.

The second one is Windows 10 Enterprise 2021 LTSC, but I am hoping there will be a 22H2 version some time.

 

[chrcoluk]

The second one is 2021, but I am hoping there will be a 22H2 version some time.

Next LTSC is probably going to be the Win 11 LTSC.

 

[bobbybluz]

Yes but buying a license is a pain, you have to buy enough licenses of microsoft products to qualify then of course buy the expensive LTSC license.

Its easier if you can get it, to get an education copy, although that would just be the normal enterprise type updates but still later than normal consumer EOL and no app bloat.

I've seen grey area LTSC here on TPU for $12 with the 50% off deal. Here's the most recent deal: GoDeal24 Announces Big Summer Sale: Great Discounts on Genuine Software | TechPowerUp Forums

 

[chrcoluk]

I've seen grey area LTSC here on TPU for $12 with the 50% off deal. Here's the most recent deal: GoDeal24 Announces Big Summer Sale: Great Discounts on Genuine Software | TechPowerUp Forums

Yeah shrek just posted it, will see if the key works and stays activated on laptop.

 

[Shrek]

I would hate to step back to 21H2; but be sure to tell us if it works for you or not.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

No 22H2, I expect. They appear to release one around every two years; I expect that there will be one in December - or they will start pushing W11. Hard to tell with MS.

 

[theFOoL]

I'll do some digging. Updating my systems with the updates as usual on Tuesday

Update: Yeah next release IS WiN11 LTSC in 2024. Hmm... I wonder how many updates upon after that ending lol

 

[mechtech]

LTSC is pretty good, I recommend it.

I got a key from @W1zz deal sites and it didn’t work so I bought pro….