Windows 11 General Discussion

theFOoL · Sep 27, 2023

Home-Tab pointless M$!

mechtech · Sep 27, 2023

Space Lynx said:
i'm not going to memorize all these numbers, fuck that

22H2 was updated today. 23H2 is coming out sometime late october............the guestimates are............

Launcestonian · Sep 29, 2023

Mussels said:
That's not edge at fault, that's an issue with the PC itself. Could be general instability or a dying drive.

Disagree, used firefox & all is well.

lexluthermiester · Sep 29, 2023

Launcestonian said:
Disagree, used firefox & all is well.

I'm one of those people that removes(deletes) Edge & InternetExplorer from all of my personal systems. Firefox may not be the most popular browser, but it is the best.

Launcestonian · Sep 29, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
I'm one of those people that removes(deletes) Edge & InternetExplorer from all of my personal systems. Firefox may not be the most popular browser, but it is the best.

Yep, know what you mean, I no expert but think the AI is buggy still with edge.

Fangio1951 · Sep 29, 2023

Ditto to both of you above !!!!

P4-630 · Sep 29, 2023

Microsoft ends free upgrade from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10 or 11

Windows Ends Installation Path for Free Windows 7/8 Upgrade

Windows 7/8 Free Upgrade Ending

devicepartner.microsoft.com

lexluthermiester · Sep 30, 2023

P4-630 said:
Microsoft ends free upgrade from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10 or 11

Windows Ends Installation Path for Free Windows 7/8 Upgrade

Windows 7/8 Free Upgrade Ending

devicepartner.microsoft.com

They have said this multiple times. I doubt they are sincere.

Count von Schwalbe · Sep 30, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
They have said this multiple times. I doubt they are sincere.

Considering:

Microsoft's free upgrade offer for Windows 10 / 11 ended July 29, 2016

And there was still a free upgrade path back to basically XP or Vista, for doubt that s is truly going to cut off free upgrades.

P4-630 · Sep 30, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
They have said this multiple times. I doubt they are sincere.

Did you try it?

lexluthermiester · Oct 1, 2023

Count von Schwalbe said:
Considering:

And there was still a free upgrade path back to basically XP or Vista, for doubt that s is truly going to cut off free upgrades.

Exactly.

P4-630 said:
Did you try it?

Of course. It still works.

Space Lynx · Oct 4, 2023

Microsoft Copilot is showing ads in Windows 11 now, too

Microsoft Copilot is the new AI service integrated into Windows 11 23H2. The feature is designed to become the new digital assistant for Windows users after Cortana's...

www.techspot.com

disgusting.

Super Firm Tofu · Oct 4, 2023

Space Lynx said:
Microsoft Copilot is showing ads in Windows 11 now, too

Microsoft Copilot is the new AI service integrated into Windows 11 23H2. The feature is designed to become the new digital assistant for Windows users after Cortana's...

www.techspot.com

disgusting.

Ugh.

lexluthermiester · Oct 5, 2023

Space Lynx said:
Microsoft Copilot is showing ads in Windows 11 now, too

Microsoft Copilot is the new AI service integrated into Windows 11 23H2. The feature is designed to become the new digital assistant for Windows users after Cortana's...

www.techspot.com

disgusting.

I was going to remove it already. This guarantees that removal.

GerKNG · Oct 5, 2023

anyone else having issues with the display sleep setting?

when i set it to 1 Minute it shuts the monitors off after around 35 seconds.
at 5 minutes it shuts off at ~90 seconds.
at 10 minutes it's around 3 Minutes.
and the best... only my main monitor wakes up. the other needs a full power cycle (only since the last update that added the new "landing page" filled with ads in the settings.

P4-630 · Oct 5, 2023

GerKNG said:
anyone else having issues with the display sleep setting?

when i set it to 1 Minute it shuts the monitors off after around 35 seconds.
at 5 minutes it shuts off at ~90 seconds.
at 10 minutes it's around 3 Minutes.
and the best... only my main monitor wakes up. the other needs a full power cycle (only since the last update that added the new "landing page" filled with ads in the settings.

I didn't install KB5030310.

(my monitor never sleeps when my PC is on)

chrcoluk · Oct 5, 2023

Seems Microsoft are now officially supporting disabling security features for gaming performance now on Windows 11?

Options to optimize gaming performance in Windows 11 - Microsoft Support

Directions for turning off memory integrity and the Virtual Machine Platform to improve gaming performance, and the risks of doing so.

prod.support.services.microsoft.com

P4-630 · Oct 5, 2023

chrcoluk said:
Seems Microsoft are now officially supporting disabling security features for gaming performance now on Windows 11?

Options to optimize gaming performance in Windows 11 - Microsoft Support

Directions for turning off memory integrity and the Virtual Machine Platform to improve gaming performance, and the risks of doing so.

prod.support.services.microsoft.com

Nothing new about that....

lexluthermiester · Oct 5, 2023

GerKNG said:
anyone else having issues with the display sleep setting?

when i set it to 1 Minute it shuts the monitors off after around 35 seconds.
at 5 minutes it shuts off at ~90 seconds.
at 10 minutes it's around 3 Minutes.
and the best... only my main monitor wakes up. the other needs a full power cycle (only since the last update that added the new "landing page" filled with ads in the settings.

No, mine works as it should.

chrcoluk said:
Seems Microsoft are now officially supporting disabling security features for gaming performance now on Windows 11?

Options to optimize gaming performance in Windows 11 - Microsoft Support

Directions for turning off memory integrity and the Virtual Machine Platform to improve gaming performance, and the risks of doing so.

prod.support.services.microsoft.com

Which proves they actually care nothing about real security. Turning off "Memory Integrity" isn't going to effect much but for online games it can present a security hazard if someone decides they don't like you. It also proves that microsoft knows that having Virtual Machine support enabled and running services in the background does indeed use up resources.

P4-630 said:
Nothing new about that....

Right?

R-T-B · Oct 5, 2023

chrcoluk said:
Seems Microsoft are now officially supporting disabling security features for gaming performance now on Windows 11?

Options to optimize gaming performance in Windows 11 - Microsoft Support

Directions for turning off memory integrity and the Virtual Machine Platform to improve gaming performance, and the risks of doing so.

prod.support.services.microsoft.com

Yes. On a non-high risk system like a gaming rig it makes sense anyways.

lexluthermiester said:
Which proves they actually care nothing about real security.

Well yes, but no.

Yes in that it isn't really excellent from a security perspective at all. It's not WORSE than what we had before but it's benefits are extremely situational and not all-encompassing.

No, in that I don't believe MS is aware of that, nor is the situational approach really inherently invalid.

Mussels · Oct 6, 2023

faye said:
You'd think this would be an easy answer to find, but...

What exactly happens if you disable TPM after installing Windows 11? If I make the "no TPM" registry changes first will it just keep working as normal (presumably after forcing a PIN reset)? Will I lose updates? Is there anything else I need to do first?

I ask because apparently there are issues with X570/5800X3D (maybe Gigabyte specific?) that can be avoided by turning it off, but having reinstalled Windows 3 times in the last week I do /not/ want to do it again...

Nothing, unless your drives encrypted in which case it wont boot til you re-enable TPM and secureboot.
Same as if you deleted/changed the TPM key in the BIOS (which these days you restore from the CPU, so you dont lose anything without a CPU swap)

chrcoluk said:
Seems Microsoft are now officially supporting disabling security features for gaming performance now on Windows 11?

Options to optimize gaming performance in Windows 11 - Microsoft Support

Directions for turning off memory integrity and the Virtual Machine Platform to improve gaming performance, and the risks of doing so.

prod.support.services.microsoft.com

Core isolation is off by default on AM4/AM5 systems anyway, since it's only enabled if you enable virtualisation in the BIOS.

I'm unsure of the default on intel systems, pretty sure it's to fix their security flaws with virtual machines and hyperthreading anyway

Space Lynx · Oct 6, 2023

I FUCKING HATE WINDOWS 11

I TURNED THE SETTING FOR SCREEN POWER OFF AFTER 4 HOURS BUT ON EVERY FUCKING BOOT IF I DONT LOGIN WITHIN 20 SECONDS THE SCREEN GOES BLANK

FUCK THIS SHIT IM SICK OF IT

LINUX MINT TIL I DIE MOTHER FUCKERS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GerKNG · Oct 6, 2023

lexluthermiester said:
No, mine works as it should.

:/
i even reinstalled windows and tried Windows 10 on a different machine.
same issue... just on W11.
time to go permanently back to W10. i am done with this shit and the tons of bugs.
TPM is still broken on Ryzen and the defender phishing protection turns itself off after every reboot and is for some reason now in english. :confused:

Space Lynx · Oct 6, 2023

I'd also like to know why when I go idle in Windows 11, when I return its like a 10-15 second delay before I am allowed to click on icons on my desktop, the taskbar icons still work instantly.

Makes no fucking sense, it annoys shit out of me.

FoulOnWhite · Oct 6, 2023

Space Lynx said:
I'd also like to know why when I go idle in Windows 11, when I return its like a 10-15 second delay before I am allowed to click on icons on my desktop, the taskbar icons still work instantly.

Makes no fucking sense, it annoys shit out of me.

I was getting that problem. Trying win 10 again for a while. i have partitioned my win drive, so have the option of running win 10 and 11 dual, without having to lose win 10 now.

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Memory	8GB DDR3 (2x4GB) \| 8GB DDR2 (4x2GB)
Video Card(s)	Onboard \| NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB
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Display(s)	DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 \| ASUS 24" LCD IPS
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Power Supply	EVGA 550WATT \| Rosewill 530WATT
Mouse	Input-Director\| RoseWill FUSION C40
Keyboard	Input-Director \| RoseWill FUSION
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Processor	Ryzen 5700x
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Storage	Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX
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Case	Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window)
Audio Device(s)	Realtek ALC1220-VB
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Mouse	Mionix Naos Pro
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Mouse	MSI Clutch GM20 Elite / CM Reaper /
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Mouse	MSI Clutch GM20 Elite / CM Reaper /
Keyboard	Logitech G512 Carbon / MSI G30 Vigor / Ttesports Challenger Duo

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Processor	i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz and 32deg C - delid + Grizzly Conductonaught LM
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Cooling	Custom water cooling loop - GPU + mobo (+VRM's) + CPU
Memory	G Skill - Trident Z RGB DDR4 - 3866Mhz x 32Gb @ 3800Mhz
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte Aorus 11Gb GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce Extreme @ 2250Mhz
Storage	Samsung 500Gb M2 970 EVO + Samsung 850 Pro SSD + ADATA 512Gb SSD + Samsung 1Tb & 3T + WD 1Tb + 3Tb
Display(s)	ASUS 27" ROG Swift 1440p @ 165Hz & BenQ 27" LED
Case	Thermaltake Core P7 - Open frame
Audio Device(s)	Logitech Z906 - 5.1ch
Power Supply	EVGA 1200W
Mouse	Roccat LeadR + Razer Nagar V2 Pro
Keyboard	Corsair K70 LUX with Cherry Red switches
Software	Win 10 Pro 64bit
Benchmark Scores	v/fast

System Name	AlderLake
Processor	Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans
Memory	32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36
Video Card(s)	MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2
Display(s)	23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p
Case	Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window
Audio Device(s)	Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless
Keyboard	RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless
Software	Windows 11
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Video Card(s)	Dell Radeon R7 450 \| RTX 2080 Ti FE
Storage	Crucial BX500 2TB \| TBD
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Power Supply	Dell TFX Non-standard \| EVGA BQ 650W
Mouse	Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse\| TBD

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Mouse	Razer Deathadder V3
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Case	Fractal Define R4
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Power Supply	Antec HCG 750 Gold
Software	Windows 10 21H2 LTSC

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Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
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Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
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Software	Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024

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Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
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Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
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Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
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Processor	I7 12700k
Motherboard	Asus Rog Strix z690-A WiFi D4
Cooling	Noctua D15S chromax black/MX6
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Power Supply	Corsair RM850x 80% gold
Mouse	Logitech G604 lightspeed wireless
Keyboard	Logitech G915 TKL lightspeed wireless
Software	Windows 10 Pro X64
Benchmark Scores	Who cares

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