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Windows 11 General Discussion

Those changes take effect with clean installs of new versions only - you're fine with whatever your OG was.

Just remember that when you do a clean install, always remove the existing small partitions, even if you don't remove all of em (I have a C: and D: but remove the windows created ones so it can resize them when installing windows on C: )

My windows nvme is 500gb and is windows only, and when clean installing i always remove all the windows created stuff and start from a fresh drive.
 
Not sure who your clients are,....
And that covers it right there. I didn't say that everyone should disable BDE. I said I do. I even explained why :shadedshu:
When Joseph, who seemed like a really good guy when he was hired, goes on a bender and comes in drunk, gets fired, and refuses to return phone calls, we still need some way to access the data on that laptop. Which wasn't on an AD. And didn't have the password taped to the bottom. But while he was a drunk, he got really good at PLCs after several company-paid courses, and the programs he was writing are locked behind that password. Amazingly enough, I disabled stupid bitlocker on that laptop, so I toss my USB appropriately labeled "Kitchen Sink", at the laptop, remove the password, and I can retrieve the programs for the next genius to finish. Or when Ms. Mable at the church, who kept the accounting on her computer, falls and breaks her hip, bangs her head, and ends up in a coma for who knows how long, someone has to be able to get the church accounting pulled back up, or they're in serious kimchi with the IRS. And that someone isn't me, because they bought the laptop at BestBuy with Win11 Home Stupid Edition, and didn't have anything installed that wasn't approved by the M$ store and is tied to her personal Microsoft account from 11 years ago with no current cell attached to it, and for recovery her grandson's junk Yahoo account he never uses and doesn't even remember the correct address. It also has Bitlocker turned on. Both situations I've had to deal with, with a few details changed because "nunya".

Windows 11 is all about turning the water up a little more for Microsoft. When Win 7 came out, there was talk about "telemetry", and several geniuses on the Internet insisted it was only for the early beta testing, and they were sure it would be removed upon full release. Fast forward 15 years, and here we are. Telemetry that can't be turned off, updates that can't be disabled for the majority of users whether they need them or not, serial numbers that are locked to a motherboard and require even more steps than before to authenticate if you change too much, and one more link of chains to ensure the user is dependent upon Microsoft to use their computer. And waiting dark in the wings? Windows as a Service. You'll be logging onto a dumb terminal with little to no customization available, and the computer will connect to a VM of the Operating System you've been approved for, as long as you keep paying that monthly bill....
But don't worry: you'll always have the latest and greatest hardware running that VM, and updates as soon as they're available!!! whether they're ready and work properly or not....
 
Windows as a Service. You'll be logging onto a dumb terminal with little to no customization available, and the computer will connect to a VM of the Operating System you've been approved for, as long as you keep paying that monthly bill...

I'll stop using a PC and goa and do something else instead if that happens.
 
I have a random issue with windows 11
I have the pro n version but i can't install the mediafpack neitheir thought the powershell nor the windows settngs app
Does someone have the same issue ??
 
And that covers it right there. I didn't say that everyone should disable BDE. I said I do. I even explained why :shadedshu:
When Joseph, who seemed like a really good guy when he was hired, goes on a bender and comes in drunk, gets fired, and refuses to return phone calls, we still need some way to access the data on that laptop. Which wasn't on an AD. And didn't have the password taped to the bottom. But while he was a drunk, he got really good at PLCs after several company-paid courses, and the programs he was writing are locked behind that password. Amazingly enough, I disabled stupid bitlocker on that laptop, so I toss my USB appropriately labeled "Kitchen Sink", at the laptop, remove the password, and I can retrieve the programs for the next genius to finish. Or when Ms. Mable at the church, who kept the accounting on her computer, falls and breaks her hip, bangs her head, and ends up in a coma for who knows how long, someone has to be able to get the church accounting pulled back up, or they're in serious kimchi with the IRS. And that someone isn't me, because they bought the laptop at BestBuy with Win11 Home Stupid Edition, and didn't have anything installed that wasn't approved by the M$ store and is tied to her personal Microsoft account from 11 years ago with no current cell attached to it, and for recovery her grandson's junk Yahoo account he never uses and doesn't even remember the correct address. It also has Bitlocker turned on. Both situations I've had to deal with, with a few details changed because "nunya".

Windows 11 is all about turning the water up a little more for Microsoft. When Win 7 came out, there was talk about "telemetry", and several geniuses on the Internet insisted it was only for the early beta testing, and they were sure it would be removed upon full release. Fast forward 15 years, and here we are. Telemetry that can't be turned off, updates that can't be disabled for the majority of users whether they need them or not, serial numbers that are locked to a motherboard and require even more steps than before to authenticate if you change too much, and one more link of chains to ensure the user is dependent upon Microsoft to use their computer. And waiting dark in the wings? Windows as a Service. You'll be logging onto a dumb terminal with little to no customization available, and the computer will connect to a VM of the Operating System you've been approved for, as long as you keep paying that monthly bill....
But don't worry: you'll always have the latest and greatest hardware running that VM, and updates as soon as they're available!!! whether they're ready and work properly or not....
I guess we have different approaches, no need to get upset. That's all security is in a nutshell. The more 'secure', usually the less 'convenient'. I choose to encrypt anything that has important information on it, and make sure if something terrible did happen to me, people whom I trust can get access to the information they need.

I'd also rather inform people of proper security, backups, and ways of 'migrating' data/accounts in case of emergency. My wife used to keep all her accounts and passwords in a text document on her phone.. Now we both have bitwarden and share important account info in our 'shared org'. It took some convincing but we're better off for it.

We can go back and forth providing many examples of why which way is better, it boils down to convenience. I don't think it's a productive conversation, I was just providing my own opinion. Sorry for reminding you of past trauma's
 
I have the pro n version but i can't install the mediafpack neitheir thought the powershell nor the windows settngs app
Does someone have the same issue ??
The problem is that the "N" versions seem to have the restricted components permanently locked out. You'll need to find/use alternatives.
 
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My windows nvme is 500gb and is windows only, and when clean installing i always remove all the windows created stuff and start from a fresh drive.
I usually secure erase the drive and let windows make whatever partitions it wants/needs...............
 
hmm... I didn't think that was the case... found this after a quick search: https://support.microsoft.com/hu-hu...ber-2020-2f992f23-1fca-60a3-9907-fd4fe896a8a7
This might have been a change at one point, however that link is also for Windows 10. Some of the policies microsoft has for Windows 11 are a bit different from Win10. I can't find a definitive answer on it though. So it's anyone's guess.

I usually secure erase the drive and let windows make whatever partitions it wants/needs...............
I never do this. Partitions are always created the way I want them before starting up the install due to a custom partition setup. The OS partition is separate from the partition that contains the TEMP folders and the pagefile.
 
I never do this. Partitions are always created the way I want them before starting up the install due to a custom partition setup. The OS partition is separate from the partition that contains the TEMP folders and the pagefile.
Why?
 
Several reasons. Direct temp file management, forcing Windows to keep recovery and restore files where I can directly access them and a number of others.
Have a link? Nothing like some light reading to learn something.
I haven't dabbled in 11 yet, but the typical win10 default is typically as below. (random pic from net).......... I put the OS on the largest partition, and let windows manage the other small ones.............I have also seen versions/instanaces where there are 3 and not 4 partitions created by default.

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For some windows 11 users

 
Have a link? Nothing like some light reading to learn something.
Um, it's more personal methodologies based on personal experiences. I have very particular ways of doing things, and such are decidedly NOT the microsoft ways.

I haven't dabbled in 11 yet, but the typical win10 default is typically as below. (random pic from net).......... I put the OS on the largest partition, and let windows manage the other small ones.............I have also seen versions/instanaces where there are 3 and not 4 partitions created by default.

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The way I generally set things up are two partitions, the first being 12GB or 16GB(for temp and pagefile) and the second whatever is left for the OS.
 
My windows nvme is 500gb and is windows only, and when clean installing i always remove all the windows created stuff and start from a fresh drive.
With a 120GB partition, you could fit a full backup in the second half of the drive and still have 250GB of space for unimportant files that you don't care if you lose, but are a time saver to keep (desktop/downloads/games, etc)
 
With a 120GB partition, you could fit a full backup in the second half of the drive and still have 250GB of space for unimportant files that you don't care if you lose, but are a time saver to keep (desktop/downloads/games, etc)

Maybe so, there is 371gb free on it.
 
Does anyone have edge browser locking their system up? I was downloading some files with a few tabs open, went away for an hour, came back & the system was sluggish as heck, barely able to move the mouse let alone open task manager... all this on a fresh install of win 11 only a few days old. :mad:
Got me thinking the option for tabs to go to sleep is still not a smooth working operation. But that's how edge is by default now..
 
Does anyone have edge browser locking their system up? I was downloading some files with a few tabs open, went away for an hour, came back & the system was sluggish as heck, barely able to move the mouse let alone open task manager... all this on a fresh install of win 11 only a few days old. :mad:
Got me thinking the option for tabs to go to sleep is still not a smooth working operation. But that's how edge is by default now..
That's not edge at fault, that's an issue with the PC itself. Could be general instability or a dying drive.
 
You'd think this would be an easy answer to find, but...

What exactly happens if you disable TPM after installing Windows 11? If I make the "no TPM" registry changes first will it just keep working as normal (presumably after forcing a PIN reset)? Will I lose updates? Is there anything else I need to do first?

I ask because apparently there are issues with X570/5800X3D (maybe Gigabyte specific?) that can be avoided by turning it off, but having reinstalled Windows 3 times in the last week I do /not/ want to do it again...
 
You'd think this would be an easy answer to find, but...

What exactly happens if you disable TPM after installing Windows 11? If I make the "no TPM" registry changes first will it just keep working as normal (presumably after forcing a PIN reset)? Will I lose updates? Is there anything else I need to do first?

I ask because apparently there are issues with X570/5800X3D (maybe Gigabyte specific?) that can be avoided by turning it off, but having reinstalled Windows 3 times in the last week I do /not/ want to do it again...
I found out when I reset my bios recently. All that happened was I got an alert from Windows security that it had been disabled and I should enable it.
 
I thought Windows 22H3 was supposed to be released by now?

on windows 11 download site it still just says 22H2 download. i was going to do a clean install with the new amd drivers that released today :roll:
 
I thought Windows 22H3 was supposed to be released by now?

on windows 11 download site it still just says 22H2 download. i was going to do a clean install with the new amd drivers that released today :roll:

uh yeah for "Windows insiders" only (in the "RP" channel) , not to the general public

and it's 23H2, not 22H3 (spell check or "number check", dude)

There is no officially named 23H2 update however there's this:


look again, here

 
uh yeah for "Windows insiders" only (in the "RP" channel) , not to the general public

and it's 23H2, not 22H3 (spell check or "number check", dude)



look again, here


i'm not going to memorize all these numbers, fuck that
 
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