Windows 11 General Discussion

[lexluthermiester]

OpenShell had control panel there in that start menu, I'd be golden. or did Win 11 finally get rid of control panel?

You can add the Control panel in. The options are there, you just have to enable "Show All Settings". Then in the "Customize Start Menu" tab, add the Control Panel in under the "Settings" menu. Then go to the "Special Items" tab and select "Display as a menu" and all of the items that are otherwise in the control panel will be available directly from the Open Shell menu. See screenshots below;

Or just use:

• Open Regedit (Registry Editor.
• Open HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\
• Open the Advanced folder.
• Create a new DWord and name it “Start_ShowClassicMode”
• Double-tap on the DWord entry and set its value to 1.
• Restart Windows Explorer using Task Manager.

Tried this, it did not work. Are you sure the key is properly named and in the right place?

 

[johnspack]

I simply installed the newest beta version of openshell... newest win11... works fine https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/releases

 

[lexluthermiester]

I simply installed the newest beta version of openshell... newest win11... works fine https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu/releases
View attachment 213369

Why the Enterprise version? Is it like LTSB/LTSC?

This just happened(well ok, a couple days ago);

Windows 11 will make it harder to switch from Microsoft Edge to an alternative browser

Since launching its Chromium-based Edge browser, Microsoft has been trying hard to push it onto Windows 10 users through various methods. It has set it as the...

www.techspot.com

Seriously? WTAF are they thinking? I have a few things to say about this, microsoft:
1. Eff U! Again...
2. We users will run what WE want to run, NOT what you want. So eff u.
3. We users, along with the hacker community, will continue to look for and find ways to hack your crap and defeat your efforts to control us. And eff u.
4. Did I mention Eff U?

The morons at microsoft making these decisions either need help getting there heads out of their asses, or need a big boot up same. Seriously microsoft, STOP trying to control everything and push crap on us we don't want. I'm holding up both of my hands, fingers extended. Can you guess which ones?

(PS, microsoft, are you sensing a theme? hmmm? Oh, and we WILL win.)

 

[FireFox]

Don't you people love W11? i sure don't.
The browser thing it's just one of the few craps they will forced you to use, at least they will try.

 

[VulkanBros]

Tried this, it did not work. Are you sure the key is properly named and in the right place?

Works for me (22000.132)

 

[lexluthermiester]

Don't you people love W11? i sure don't.

I do actually! I love most of what they're doing with it. Just not the empty headed limitations they are attempting to impose.

The browser thing it's just one of the few craps they will forced you to use.

Perhaps. I've been removing the crap not wanted or needed for decades, regardless of their attempts. Not much is going to change for me and people like me. My outrage is for the masses that are going to be forced into all this crap who don't have the experience and know-how to forcibly remove things they don't want and configure Windows to suit their own needs.

Works for me (22000.132)

Please explain how you got it to work. I followed the registry instructions and restarted the system after restarting explorer didn't work. The Start menu still came up in it's default state. Screenshots would be helpful, both of the registry entries and the resulting Start menu.

 

[FireFox]

Perhaps. I've been removing the crap not wanted or needed for decades, regardless of their attempts. Not much is going to change for me and people like me. My outrage is for the masses that are going to be forced into all this crap who don't have the experience and know-how to forcibly remove things they don't want and configure Windows to suit their own needs.

I haven't removed anything yet because my plan is to update the beta version i am using right now to the final version, my guess is that maybe because we are using beta it's possible to remove what you dont need but what if it wont be possible to remove it from the final version?
Maybe i am wrong, i hope so.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Maybe i am wrong, i hope so.

Don't you worry, there will be ways. Rest assured.

 

[FireFox]

Don't you worry, there will be ways. Rest assured.

One thing that it really bothers me badly about W11 is the interface.
As soon as i update to the final version i will do something about it.

 

[VulkanBros]

lease explain how you got it to work. I followed the registry instructions and restarted the system after restarting explorer didn't work. The Start menu still came up in it's default state. Screenshots would be helpful, both of the registry entries and the resulting Start menu.

Arghhh.....updated from 20000.132 to 20000.160 and it crashed......have to do a fresh install, before I can provide pictures.
Or maybe the registry entrance I did, was not liked by the update, although that seems far fetched....
I'll get back.......

 

[theFOoL]

LINK

 

[FireFox]

its a bit tricky and the icon has rounded edges...but yeah good idea

lol well that didnt work View attachment 210008

Did you try Winaero Tweaker?

I replaced the W11 taskbar with the W10 one, only issue i cant find a way how to remove the search box, working on it.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Why the Enterprise version? Is it like LTSB/LTSC?

This just happened(well ok, a couple days ago);

Windows 11 will make it harder to switch from Microsoft Edge to an alternative browser

Since launching its Chromium-based Edge browser, Microsoft has been trying hard to push it onto Windows 10 users through various methods. It has set it as the...

www.techspot.com

Seriously? WTAF are they thinking? I have a few things to say about this, microsoft:
1. Eff U! Again...
2. We users will run what WE want to run, NOT what you want. So eff u.
3. We users, along with the hacker community, will continue to look for and find ways to hack your crap and defeat your efforts to control us. And eff u.
4. Did I mention Eff U?

The morons at microsoft making these decisions either need help getting there heads out of their asses, or need a big boot up same. Seriously microsoft, STOP trying to control everything and push crap on us we don't want. I'm holding up both of my hands, fingers extended. Can you guess which ones?

(PS, microsoft, are you sensing a theme? hmmm? Oh, and we WILL win.)

Have you been following Apple's hubris with the CSAM surveillance coming in iOS15 and Monterey? The backlash has been huge, but so far Apple is just telling us we simply don't understand the process. Big Tech thinks they have us by the snarglies, and in some cases, they are right. They are taking advantage of us just enough that we don't leave (if there is even an alternative to leave to), but little by little they keep moving things in their favor. I think they know the bad press will fade, and it appears that they'll keep getting one over on their customers as long as it doesn't hurt the bottom line.

 

[Shrek]

I was a Mac person till Apple started gluing things shut; I jumped ship and started using a PC

 

[lexluthermiester]

Have you been following Apple's hubris with the CSAM surveillance coming in iOS15 and Monterey? The backlash has been huge, but so far Apple is just telling us we simply don't understand the process.

Yeah, I've seen that. It's a load of crap, violates a number of laws and is just a clueless load of crap. Apple is in the wrong going to get screwed, as is Microsoft for all of this nonsense. But we're getting a bit off-topic.

 

[MentalAcetylide]

Have you been following Apple's hubris with the CSAM surveillance coming in iOS15 and Monterey? The backlash has been huge, but so far Apple is just telling us we simply don't understand the process. Big Tech thinks they have us by the snarglies, and in some cases, they are right. They are taking advantage of us just enough that we don't leave (if there is even an alternative to leave to), but little by little they keep moving things in their favor. I think they know the bad press will fade, and it appears that they'll keep getting one over on their customers as long as it doesn't hurt the bottom line.

Yup, its like "Timba, his legs spread wide", and Apple winding up for a huge kick.

 

[95Viper]

But we're getting a bit off-topic.

Uh-huh.

Stay on topic, please...
I would not enjoy the closing of this thread, as, it has some good info/posts/discussions.

 

[FireFox]

20000.160 is out and still there isn't any news about the known issues

 

[Shrek]

Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.160 Is Now Out (wccftech.com)

Windows 11 Build 22000.160: Improvements & Fixes​

• The new Clock app for Windows 11 with Focus Sessions has begun rolling out to Windows Insiders in the Dev Channel. See this blog post for all the details!
• We have been testing the ability to see estimates for how long a restart for updates would take in places like the power menu under Start, in restart notifications, on the Windows Update Settings page and inside the Windows Update icon that shows up at the lower right of Taskbar. We are making a small adjustment for this feature so that it only shows on PCs with SSDs. If your PC has a standard HDD, you will no longer see estimates. We hope to bring estimates back to PCs with HDDs once we iron out a few more bugs.
• We fixed an issue where the “location in use” icon was showing in the Taskbar sometimes even though the usage was blocked by your preferences.

Windows 11 Insider Build 22000.160: Known issues​

• [REMINDER] When upgrading to Windows 11 from Windows 10 or when installing an update to Windows 11, some features may be deprecated or removed. See details here.
• We’re investigating an issue where on some devices, when going to Settings > Windows Update > Windows Insider Program, only the “Stop getting preview builds” option is visible. This prevents Insiders from selecting a channel. We have posted a workaround on Answers.
• [BETA CHANNEL] We’re investigating reports from Insiders in the Beta Channel where after upgrading to Windows 11, they are not seeing the new Taskbar and the Start menu doesn’t work. To workaround this if you are impacted, please try going to Windows Update > Update history, uninstalling the latest cumulative update for Windows, and the reinstall it by checking for updates.
• We’re working on a fix for an issue that is causing some Surface Pro X devices to bug check with a WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR.
• Start:
  • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the Taskbar. If you experience the issue, press WIN + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
  • System and Windows Terminal is missing when right-clicking on the Start button (WIN + X).
• Taskbar:
  • The Taskbar will sometimes flicker when switching input methods.
• Search:
  • After clicking the Search icon on the Taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.
  • Search panel might appear as black and not display any content below the search box.
  • On pen enabled devices, apps may not launch from the Search panel. If you experience this issue, please log out and back in to resolve the issue.
• Settings:
  • Certain searches using the search box in Settings may crash Settings.
• Bluetooth:
  • We’re investigating reports from Insiders with paired Bluetooth LE devices that are experiencing an increase in Bluetooth reliability issues and bugchecks after resume from hibernate or when Bluetooth is turned off.
• Widgets:
  • The widgets board may appear empty. To work around the issue, you can sign out and then sign back in again.
  • Widgets may be displayed in the wrong size on external monitors. If you encounter this, you can launch the widgets via touch or WIN + W shortcut on your actual PC display first and then launch on your secondary monitors.
  • [Family widget] Some users may see a ‘connect a device to see screen time activity’ message even with screen time settings enable.
  • [Family widget] Location information may not be available for some users on iOS.
• Store:
  • We are working to improve search relevance in the Store including resolving an issue where in some cases the ordering of search results is inaccurate.
  • The install button might not be functional yet in some limited scenarios.
  • Rating and reviews are not available for some apps.
• Windows Sandbox
  • Within Windows Sandbox, the language input switcher does not launch after clicking the switcher icon on the Taskbar. As a workaround, users can switch their input language via any of the following hardware keyboard shortcuts: Alt + Shift, Ctrl + Shift, or Win + Space (the third option is available only if Sandbox is full-screened).
  • Within Windows Sandbox, the IME context menu does not launch after clicking the IME icon in the Taskbar. As workarounds, users can access the functionalities of the IME context menu with either of following methods:
    • Accessing the IME settings via Settings > Time & language > Language & region > (e.g. Japanese) three dots > Language options > (e.g. Microsoft IME) three dots > Keyboard options.
      • Optionally, you may also enable the IME toolbar, an alternative UI to quickly invoke specific IME functions. Continuing from above, navigate to Keyboard options > Appearance > Use IME toolbar.
    • Using the unique set of hardware keyboard shortcuts associated with each IME-supported language. (See: Japanese IME Shortcuts, Traditional Chinese IME Shortcuts).
  • Localization
    • There is an issue where some Insiders may be some missing translations from their user experience for a small subset of languages running the latest Insider Preview builds. To confirm if you have been impacted, please visit this Answers forum post and follow the steps for remediation.
  • Chat from Microsoft Teams
    • Experience is localized for English (US) only. Additional languages and locales forthcoming.
    • When you make an outgoing call, while you do not hear a ring tone, the user interface shows that the call is getting connected.
    • In a video call, sometimes people videos freeze or display a black image. There is a workaround to this issue, which is to pin the video that freezes and unpin it to fix the problem.
    • When switching between calls, the previous call is not automatically put on hold, so audio and video streams continue on both calls. Be sure to complete a call before taking another.

 

[theFOoL]

Hey y'all would not happen to know the size area of the start menu area in windows 11. I'm trying to resize some images. As shown I want to make them more centered

 

[windwhirl]

20000.160 is out and still there isn't any news about the known issues

... Are you not reading the posts from the Insider blog? They're right there.

Hey y'all would not happen to know the size area of the start menu area in windows 11. I'm trying to resize some images. As shown I want to make them more centered

View attachment 213619

The logo itself is 23x23 pixels, but the button seems to be 41x40 pixels... and that 1 pixel difference that doesn't make it a perfect square already pissed me off

However, it seems Windows will still open the menu outside of that range, so I'd say 55 or 56 pixels starting from the left side of the screen to cover the entire start menu button area and 52 pixels of height.

 

[FireFox]

... Are you not reading the posts from the Insider blog? They're right there.

I am not part of it

Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.160 Is Now Out (wccftech.com)

Windows 11 Build 22000.160: Improvements & Fixes​

Windows 11 Insider Build 22000.160: Known issues​

Too many issues and we're just a few months from the final version

Hey y'all would not happen to know the size area of the start menu area in windows 11. I'm trying to resize some images. As shown I want to make them more centered

View attachment 213619

Why don't you remove the w11 taskbar as i did and use the W10 one?
Where can i get that Image you're using? i would like to try something.

 

[ThrashZone]

20000.160 is out and still there isn't any news about the known issues

Hi,
If it doubt just assume the list of issues is longer than added features lol

Think it's sort of funny people resorting to open shell

 

[theFOoL]

... Are you not reading the posts from the Insider blog? They're right there.


The logo itself is 23x23 pixels, but the button seems to be 41x40 pixels... and that 1 pixel difference that doesn't make it a perfect square already pissed me off

However, it seems Windows will still open the menu outside of that range, so I'd say 55 or 56 pixels starting from the left side of the screen to cover the entire start menu button area and 52 pixels of height.

Ah I want that Area when you hover over the button though. I got the size correct but not centered the way I'd Like but is that a thing in the program?

Here's my So So centered Image

 

[lexluthermiester]

I am not part of it

It's on a public page;

Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.160

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.160 to everyone in the Dev and Beta Channels! IMPORTANT REMINDER: If you are in the Dev Channel, now would be the right time to consider switching to the B

blogs.windows.com

If you want to keep tabs on it, Use the following search terms, replacing the "xxx" with the version number you're looking for info on:

"windows 11" "22000.xxx" change log

The first result should be the microsoft blog.