Windows 11 General Discussion

Splinterdog · Aug 22, 2021

I'm on 160 with a clean install and not Insider Preview. It just came through the normal update route.

Hugis · Aug 23, 2021

Ive joined the beta channel as it was mentioned things could get a bit messy with new builds from now on.

i use this as my option to do it , mine was greyed out btw.

Windows 11 testers beware: buggier builds are coming soon

Windows 11 is currently in the final stages of testing and it will begin rolling out to compatible hardware in October. As of today, it’s possible to grab the technical preview builds of Windows 11 by joining the Dev and Beta channels. Although Windows 11 is still in the beta phase, it’s quite...

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Ruru · Aug 24, 2021

Is there any info for the release date for the final product?

lexluthermiester · Aug 24, 2021

Hugis said:
Ive joined the beta channel as it was mentioned things could get a bit messy with new builds from now on.

i use this as my option to do it , mine was greyed out btw.

Windows 11 testers beware: buggier builds are coming soon

Windows 11 is currently in the final stages of testing and it will begin rolling out to compatible hardware in October. As of today, it’s possible to grab the technical preview builds of Windows 11 by joining the Dev and Beta channels. Although Windows 11 is still in the beta phase, it’s quite...

www.windowslatest.com

22000.160 seems rock solid, no glitches, bugs or crashes yet. It's the first version of the 11 beta that I've allowed online with Comodo installed. I've got my router logs on and Comodo's internal logs running on full detail. So far, so good. No iffy activity that I can see.

Jill Valentine said:
Is there any info for the release date for the final product?

To date, ms has stated October for the RTM and Q1-2022 for the general public update roll-out, but that could change.

Ruru · Aug 24, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
To date, ms has stated October for the RTM and Q1-2022 for the general public update roll-out, but that could change.

Not much waiting after all. Not going to be THAT early adopter to use it already. :laugh:

Hugis · Aug 24, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
22000.160 seems rock solid, no glitches, bugs or crashes yet. It's the first version of the 11 beta that I've allowed online with Comodo installed. I've got my router logs on and Comodo's internal logs running on full. So far, so good. No iffy activity that I can see.

To date, ms has stated October for the RTM and Q1-2022 for the general public update roll-out, but that could change.

yeah seems stable to me as well, i just don't want future potentially buggy builds messing my daily driver up, so thats why i switched over to beta

Jill Valentine said:
Is there any info for the release date for the final product?

Windows 11 release date could be announced later this week

Windows 11 might be out by mid-October

www.techradar.com

Rock N Roll Rebel · Aug 26, 2021

I got the beta on my host machine and dev on vmware

I wonder if and when an update will come out today

it looks like there is no update today

Rock N Roll Rebel · Aug 27, 2021

build 22000.168 is out
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.168 | Windows Insider Blog

Deleted member 24505 · Aug 27, 2021

skellattarr said:
build 22000.168 is out
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.168 | Windows Insider Blog

I got this earlier today, just popped up asking to restart

Rock N Roll Rebel · Aug 27, 2021

Gruffalo.Soldier said:
I got this earlier today, just popped up asking to restart

I just updated a few minutes ago

I just updated the dev one in VMware then checked the channels and you can still go to beta

windwhirl · Aug 27, 2021

Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements and the PC Health Check app

Today’s blog post provides two updates. First, an update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements based, in part, on feedback from the Windows Insider community. Second, information on the updated PC Health Check app that is now available to Windo

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Long story short: Microsoft is sticking to the requirements they posted a while ago (although they added a few extra Intel CPUs, most notably the Core i7 7820HQ found on Surface Studio 2), and if you're currently running Windows 10 on a machine that doesn't meet Windows 11 requirements, you won't be offered an upgrade to Windows 11.

HOWEVER: Acording to a The Verge's article, requirements won't be as enforced for clean installs. That means that as long as you have at least a dual core 64 bit processor, 4 GB of RAM and 64 GB of storage space you can still proceed with a clean install. BUT do not expect everything to go smoothly, as Microsoft has estimated a much higher crash rate (+52%). Then again, normal installations supposedly achieve 99.8% crash rate free experience, so that would be, what, 99.7% for a non-supported system?

Microsoft won’t stop you installing Windows 11 on older PCs

You can install Windows 11 manually on unsupported PCs.

www.theverge.com

skellattarr said:
build 22000.168 is out
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.168 | Windows Insider Blog

Hmm, seems like a small one this time around. A few fixes, a revamp for the Store, and that's about it.

theFOoL · Aug 27, 2021

Ah M$ an there BS. Well the Developer parted ways to the WiNtoPass11 but still works

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lexluthermiester · Aug 27, 2021

windwhirl said:
HOWEVER: Acording to a The Verge's article, requirements won't be as enforced for clean installs. That means that as long as you have at least a dual core 64 bit processor, 4 GB of RAM and 64 GB of storage space you can still proceed with a clean install.

Only time will tell as to whether that will hold true. This would be great if true, but let's not hold our breath... Now that I think about it, I have not personally installed Windows 11 on a compliant system.

windwhirl said:
BUT do not expect everything to go smoothly, as Microsoft has estimated a much higher crash rate (+52%). Then again, normal installations supposedly achieve 99.8% crash rate free experience, so that would be, what, 99.7% for a non-supported system?

I'm not buying that on any level. I've been deliberately trying to make Win11 crash and I'm getting nothing. Credit where it's due, this is the most stable Windows Beta I've ever seen. Beyond a few minor glitches and bugs, Win11 is as stable as 10 IMHO. 22k.160 is especially smooth. Granted, some games and apps are running worse(lower FPS) in 11 than on 7 or 10(see video below), but I'm certain microsoft will sort those issues out.

windwhirl · Aug 27, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
Only time will tell as to whether that will hold true. This would be great if true, but let's not hold our breath... Now that I think about it, I have not personally installed Windows 11 on a compliant system.

I'm not buying that on any level. I've been deliberately trying to make Win11 crash and I'm getting nothing. Credit where it's due, this is the most stable Windows Beta I've ever seen. Beyond a few minor glitches and bugs, Win11 is as stable as 10 IMHO. 22k.160 is especially smooth. Granted, some games and apps are running worse(lower FPS) in 11 than on 7 or 10(see video below), but I'm certain microsoft will sort those issues out.

Yeah, I personally have run into little to no trouble (though I am using a system that is fully compliant with their requirements). The few I had are all File Explorer's errors, and I'm giving it a pass because it was severely overhauled, a few bugs are bound to show up.

lexluthermiester said:
Only time will tell as to whether that will hold true. This would be great if true, but let's not hold our breath..

Yeah, I'm kinda wary of the article. It's not mentioned anywhere in the Insider blog post, so I don't know where did Microsoft say that. On the other hand, in another article they say Microsoft told The Verge (so either some press release I'm not aware of or one of their staff asked a Microsoft rep and got that response). Still, I'm hoping MS is willing to allow at least that much.

lexluthermiester · Aug 27, 2021

windwhirl said:
Still, I'm hoping MS is willing to allow at least that much.

They're going to have a $h17storm of angry people if they don't make some allowances for exceptions.

Hugis · Aug 28, 2021

Just to let you guys know ive deleted my iso;s of earlier versions as we can now get them directly from Microsoft(albeit .132 atm), if that changes ill rehost again no worries

plastiscɧ · Aug 28, 2021

Microsoft published this table of Systemrequirements for older PCs for win 11 then

theFOoL · Aug 28, 2021

I'm running 11 fine on my 775 Build thanks to WINpass11 though works still but the Developer stopped after the release of the Beta for windows 11

plastiscɧ · Aug 28, 2021

rk3066 said:
I'm running 11 fine on my 775 Build thanks to WINpass11 though works still but the Developer stopped after the release of the Beta for windows 11

the developer is on again as i had read in a german blog

stinger608 · Aug 28, 2021

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debs3759 · Aug 28, 2021

Windows 11 Insider Preview ISOs that will install on older CPUs are now available, as of today. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewiso

Space Lynx · Aug 28, 2021

debs3759 said:
Windows 11 Insider Preview ISOs that will install on older CPUs are now available, as of today. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewiso

I just checked the list of CPU's M$ is now allowing for W11 permanently moving forward... I saw i7-7820HQ so i got all excited... but my laptop is 7820HK and not included in the list... LOL

its whatevs.

windwhirl · Aug 28, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
They're going to have a $h17storm of angry people if they don't make some allowances for exceptions.

Yeah, forget it.

Microsoft has said that machines that do not meet system requirements may not be eligible for updates, not even basic security updates. The Verge updated their article with that bit last night.

debs3759 · Aug 28, 2021

lynx29 said:
I just checked the list of CPU's M$ is now allowing for W11 permanently moving forward... I saw i7-7820HQ so i got all excited... but my laptop is 7820HK and not included in the list... LOL

its whatevs.

The newly released ISOs should install on any system with TPM 2. I'll be installing tonight on a Maximus VIII Hero with 6700K, that I added a TPM 2 module to yesterday. Not sure whether even TPM is needed for the new ISOs.

Rock N Roll Rebel · Aug 28, 2021

when Windows 11 is released I'm going to opt-out of the insider's program and be in regular windows 11 but still have the dev in VMware

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