X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[Zyll Goliat]

@1000Gbps I doubt that this is the VRM problem as your CPU is not OC or ram so nothing making any significant pressure on VRM also temps according to you are totally normal.....My question is do you have totally random crashes or your crashes happens on heavy CPU or GPU load?

 

[1000Gbps]

If you think it's the vrm, why don't you point a fan at it and test?

Good point. Sadly don't have spare fans (last week of Dec'20 everything was out of stock and not working) and what about if one of them is faulty and shutdowns the system?

@1000Gbps I doubt that this is the VRM problem as your CPU is not OC or ram so nothing making any significant pressure on VRM also temps according to you are totally normal.....My question is do you have totally random crashes or your crashes happens on heavy CPU or GPU load?

Happens when gaming (like Dota 2) or when testing through OCCT's own test (first icon in test scheduler - large data set, auto instructions, auto thread count, no extreme, no steady load)

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Good point. Sadly don't have spare fans (last week of Dec'20 everything was out of stock and not working) and what about if one of them is faulty and shutdowns the system?



Happens when gaming (like Dota 2) or when testing through OCCT's own test (first icon in test scheduler - large data set, auto instructions, auto thread count, no extreme, no steady load)

Hmm....and do the system reset or do you have some error message what kind of crash exactly happens?

 

[1000Gbps]

Hmm....and do the system reset or do you have some error message what kind of crash exactly happens?

No crash messages or something in the logs - clean shutdown

The idea is to save that platform, not to buy another one. Most of the X79 mobos in my area are shitty models - less PCIe slots or with the same problem, or their owners sell them only in combination with a CPU

 

[Zyll Goliat]

No crash messages or something in the logs - clean shutdown

The idea is to save that platform, not to buy another one. Most of the X79 mobos in my area are shitty models - less PCIe slots or with the same problem, or their owners sell them only in combination with a CPU

Well...If the shutdown or unexpected reset happens in gaming or load it's very possible that is problem with the power so IF you have some other PSU that you can try and see if that could be the possible problem...GL

 

[1000Gbps]

Already tested with a better one - the problem is still here

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Already tested with a better one - the problem is still here

I have a spare RIVE black that I reference in this thread earlier on that had same exact problem, worked beautifully but if I pushed it with OC and LINX or certain games it would just shut down out of nowhere with no warning. The CPU eventually croaked but that problem went away when I switched to the RIVE Black I'm using now so without rereading my own posts I believe it was a VRM issue because the board was unfortunately known for having that specific problem on occasion with bad quality control on the VRM system.

 

[repman244]

Good point. Sadly don't have spare fans (last week of Dec'20 everything was out of stock and not working) and what about if one of them is faulty and shutdowns the system?

Use your case exhaust fan and leave the case open.

I doubt a faulty fan would shut down the system.

 

[1000Gbps]

Use your case exhaust fan and leave the case open.

I doubt a faulty fan would shut down the system.

Erm ... was pointing if there is a faulty VRM, not the fan (btw a faulty fan CAN trigger psu's SC protection)

Case is somewhat open ... Cooler Master CM Stacker STC-T01-UW Black/ Silver ... all side panels are missing

 

[bobbybluz]

If you have a 16" or 20" box fan set it next to the case blowing onto the motherboard. That was my cooling trick when I last lived in a house that didn't have central air conditioning. I can't speak for others but in my experiences most shutdowns & restarts are caused by faulty PSU's or a video driver issue.

 

[1000Gbps]

There's 19°C in the room

 

[repman244]

Erm ... was pointing if there is a faulty VRM, not the fan (btw a faulty fan CAN trigger psu's SC protection)

Case is somewhat open ... Cooler Master CM Stacker STC-T01-UW Black/ Silver ... all side panels are missing

If the VRM is faulty, the only way to troubleshoot it is to use a different motherboard, but you can test if it's overheating or not.
And IMO having an open case does not mean that the VRM is cooled better - you need airflow for cooling.

 

[1000Gbps]

If the VRM is faulty, the only way to troubleshoot it is to use a different motherboard, but you can test if it's overheating or not.
And IMO having an open case does not mean that the VRM is cooled better - you need airflow for cooling.

Don't have a spare one and most around me are in bad condition
The case is opened because this is a Stacker soon to be filled with HDDs

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Don't have a spare one and most around me are in bad condition
The case is opened because this is a Stacker soon to be filled with HDDs

Everything seems to point that the problem is somewhere with the power or power delivery so it could be faulty VRM or maybe some dying capacitor......

 

[1000Gbps]

Yeah, sadly :\

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Erm ... was pointing if there is a faulty VRM, not the fan (btw a faulty fan CAN trigger psu's SC protection)

Case is somewhat open ... Cooler Master CM Stacker STC-T01-UW Black/ Silver ... all side panels are missing

Sounds like my case

Everything seems to point that the problem is somewhere with the power or power delivery so it could be faulty VRM or maybe some dying capacitor......

This...unfortunately seems likely.

 

[1000Gbps]

Already found the culprit - badly designed heatsink. Both edge chokes from all "separating" choke-columns are half outside from it and sadly not in one plane - combined with 2 bolts mounting setup this leads to uneven pressure on the mos areas. And so the manufacturer's thick and 7-8 years old thermal pad there can't do anything

Sounds like my case

Find it cheap without the centrifan a couple months ago in my country for 60 bucks (no other 2nd hand cases around me with enough 5.25 bays)

 

[1000Gbps]

Say ... what options in the X79's BIOS should be enabled or disabled to increase system stability during overclock if there are faulty/overheating VRMs? RAM and CPU are the same - 8x4GB Kingston Fury 1600, E5-2660@2600MHz

 

[UsAs]

Couldn't let the ol' X79 sys go. Got me a new daily beater

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nice OC!

 

[UsAs]

Thx. Running good at 4.3 with temps and voltages on 32GB of memory.

Could go higher but on air this is a good compromise.

 

[drizzler]

Hi again,

since i was able to get a Rampage IV Blackedition for a good price and traded my Rampage IV Formula and the MSI X79 XPOWER Big Bang II away i found some time for some more ocing. Right now i am able to archive 4.6ghz with 1.26 volts under full avx load with an okish ram speed (but at least 64gb ram). Current inrush inertia helps a lot (you will have to use higher llc) available with this board, finding the right cpu_pll too. It looks like that 4,7ghz are MAYBE possible under 1.3vcore (first quick tests show nearly stable results at 1.31 vcore) but i am quite happy right now with the setup since i was able to keep c-states / vcore idle drop, but the ram divider crap still bothers me. Getting more out of the ram settings will be the next step, want to get commandrate 1 up and running if this is even possible with full population.

Intel Xeon E5 1680 v2 @ 4605.3 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

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[Zyll Goliat]

Hi again,

since i was able to get a Rampage IV Blackedition for a good price and traded my Rampage IV Formula and the MSI X79 XPOWER Big Bang II away i found some time for some more ocing. Right now i am able to archive 4.6ghz with 1.26 volts under full avx load with an okish ram speed (but at least 64gb ram). Current inrush inertia helps a lot (you will have to use higher llc) available with this board, finding the right cpu_pll too. It looks like that 4,7ghz are MAYBE possible under 1.3vcore (first quick tests show nearly stable results at 1.31 vcore) but i am quite happy right now with the setup since i was able to keep c-states / vcore idle drop, but the ram divider crap still bothers me. Getting more out of the ram settings will be the next step, want to get commandrate 1 up and running if this is even possible with full population.
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Intel Xeon E5 1680 v2 @ 4605.3 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

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valid.x86.fr

Nice....is the CPU stable for every day work on that speed?

 

[drizzler]

it looks like, i am running this oc for about 2 weeks now and in everyday usage no instability right now. But i am always carefully about to call a OC "stable", even if it is passing all common stresstests :>

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Hi again,

since i was able to get a Rampage IV Blackedition for a good price and traded my Rampage IV Formula and the MSI X79 XPOWER Big Bang II away i found some time for some more ocing. Right now i am able to archive 4.6ghz with 1.26 volts under full avx load with an okish ram speed (but at least 64gb ram). Current inrush inertia helps a lot (you will have to use higher llc) available with this board, finding the right cpu_pll too. It looks like that 4,7ghz are MAYBE possible under 1.3vcore (first quick tests show nearly stable results at 1.31 vcore) but i am quite happy right now with the setup since i was able to keep c-states / vcore idle drop, but the ram divider crap still bothers me. Getting more out of the ram settings will be the next step, want to get commandrate 1 up and running if this is even possible with full population.
View attachment 184418

Intel Xeon E5 1680 v2 @ 4605.3 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[pkqtrv] Validated Dump by DESKTOP-O29P0EK (2021-01-17 19:30:01) - MB: Asus RAMPAGE IV BLACK EDITION - RAM: 65536 MB

valid.x86.fr

Very nice! A very respectable OC with low voltage...also I may learn something here, what exactly does the current inrush inertia help with? I have it on my board (same board as you the RIVE black) and kinda wrote it off as a gimmick or just a way it keeps voltage higher and supposedly more "stable" but I really don't know?

Say ... what options in the X79's BIOS should be enabled or disabled to increase system stability during overclock if there are faulty/overheating VRMs? RAM and CPU are the same - 8x4GB Kingston Fury 1600, E5-2660@2600MHz

Not sure if much in bios enabled/disabled will help VRM's, best thing regardless of settings is either A. lower the OC and/or B. put fans right over the VRM's and flush them with cool air best as possible.