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X800 Pro VIVO to XT PE Bios Mod

Urlyin said:
Al I'll look but I thought we had a member who successfully did the mod with a PCIe ...
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AL check out this thread... here ... Bumpy did it just following W1zzards instructions and using his Flashrom tool from here

I'm seeing more issues with people trying to flash their cards and the only problem is their not using the modified flashrom by W1zzard .... read and follow the instructions to save yourself some time :D

Al this is not pointed at you ... I'm sure that was one of W1zzards first questions... but check out the thread and see if it helps ...
 
Sapphire X800 Pro PCIE GC20 VIVO red PCB

Ok guys, at this point I can now jump in with some additional infos:

I have the above card. I experienced EXACTLY the same shit that happened to Al.

1. I flashed the AGP 16P Pro bios onto the card (of course using the 16p flashrom), Win XP SP2 detected a new card, but atitool showed 12 pipes still.

2. I tried the Sapphire X800 XT PCIE bios, winxp would detect an X800 SE, still 12 pipes.

3. Tried the ATI X800 XT PCIE bios, same

4. Ultimately formatted the whole bios with empty.bin, then flashed the Gigabyte r80x256v.f1 X800XT PE bios = you guess it... X800 SE with 12 pipes...


Well my conclusion is a bit unorthodox but read it:

- When ATI has a new GPU, at production beginning, faulty pipes happen quite often and the clocks dont go as high by far. It would be stupid from them to block OCing or modding totaly at the beginning. Let thoso modders pick out a few cards and mod them, if it wasnt possible that would be bad for sales, very bad. We all like to buy cards for lower $ from which we hope we can squeeze out the power of cards 100+$ more expensive.

but now i guess, the production process became so good, the yield is almost no defective chips and very high OC-ability, because the card went to 520 GPU and even 500 Mem easy and totally stable, giving 5000 3DMark05, with its 12 pipes even, which is slightly below an 6800 Ultra! and that was without an Arctic Silencer 4 on it even. if i put it on i will let you know how high it goes without voltmod.
 
truevader said:
Ok guys, at this point I can now jump in with some additional infos:

I have the above card. I experienced EXACTLY the same shit that happened to Al.

1. I flashed the AGP 16P Pro bios onto the card (of course using the 16p flashrom), Win XP SP2 detected a new card, but atitool showed 12 pipes still.

2. I tried the Sapphire X800 XT PCIE bios, winxp would detect an X800 SE, still 12 pipes.

3. Tried the ATI X800 XT PCIE bios, same

4. Ultimately formatted the whole bios with empty.bin, then flashed the Gigabyte r80x256v.f1 X800XT PE bios = you guess it... X800 SE with 12 pipes...


Well my conclusion is a bit unorthodox but read it:

- When ATI has a new GPU, at production beginning, faulty pipes happen quite often and the clocks dont go as high by far. It would be stupid from them to block OCing or modding totaly at the beginning. Let thoso modders pick out a few cards and mod them, if it wasnt possible that would be bad for sales, very bad. We all like to buy cards for lower $ from which we hope we can squeeze out the power of cards 100+$ more expensive.

but now i guess, the production process became so good, the yield is almost no defective chips and very high OC-ability, because the card went to 520 GPU and even 500 Mem easy and totally stable, giving 5000 3DMark05, with its 12 pipes even, which is slightly below an 6800 Ultra! and that was without an Arctic Silencer 4 on it even. if i put it on i will let you know how high it goes without voltmod.
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First it's more like the other way, in that they have added more steps down before a chip makes it to a pro. THE X800XT PCIe and the X800 XT which means they have lower quality waffers left for the Pro. I never did understand why the VIVO boards came out without the laser cut, maybe now it is something they are doing. Have you checked the GPU to see if it has the laser cut? Maybe the OEM of your board decided to make a change with the PCIe boards ...
 
4. Ultimately formatted the whole bios with empty.bin, then flashed the Gigabyte r80x256v.f1 X800XT PE bios = you guess it... X800 SE with 12 pipes...


AL is what Truevader did in step 4 the way you flashed using the Gigabyte BIOS
 
x800se is still here..... ATI must have done something to its cards.

@Urlyin: I followed w1zzards instructions to the letter. Oh well.
 
aL Doom said:
x800se is still here..... ATI must have done something to its cards.

@Urlyin: I followed w1zzards instructions to the letter. Oh well.
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Sorry to hear Al :( ....
 
Hi all,

First of all, damn this thread is long :D Ive read almost every post but the real issue for me is the pcie version of the BBA x800pro vivo card.

Has anyone successfully unlocked the 4 pipes on ATI RADEON X800PRO 256Mb DDR3 2XDVI VIVO bulk PCI Express ? link to a swedish page with the card. http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/default.php?artId=ATIX800PRO

Im considering to buy this card, but im not sure yet, i would like to know what my chances are of unlocking, and yeah i know its hard to say, but has anyone done it successfully?

Also, lets say that this card has lasercut pipes, i know you can just do some pencil mod on it, silverpen, does it have to be any special silverpen ?

Cheers!
//Kurik
 
kurik said:
Hi all,

First of all, damn this thread is long :D Ive read almost every post but the real issue for me is the pcie version of the BBA x800pro vivo card.

Has anyone successfully unlocked the 4 pipes on ATI RADEON X800PRO 256Mb DDR3 2XDVI VIVO bulk PCI Express ? link to a swedish page with the card. http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/default.php?artId=ATIX800PRO

Im considering to buy this card, but im not sure yet, i would like to know what my chances are of unlocking, and yeah i know its hard to say, but has anyone done it successfully?

Also, lets say that this card has lasercut pipes, i know you can just do some pencil mod on it, silverpen, does it have to be any special silverpen ?

Cheers!
//Kurik
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Kurik ... looks like the jury is still out on the PCIe cards ... couple of members have done the mod and it seems a few who can not link

If you think that you need to do the hardmod.. then try to stay away from it ... I did ask Truevader to see if the card had Laser cuts ... All did you look to see if your card did?
 
I will do that this weekend and see if it has the lasercut, which it most probably does have. (The Card is installed in the PC of a friend)

If it has the lasercut and that is the reason the softmod doesnt work, there exists a hardmod? if so where can i find it, i would try that maybe then too
 
truevader said:
I will do that this weekend and see if it has the lasercut, which it most probably does have. (The Card is installed in the PC of a friend)

If it has the lasercut and that is the reason the softmod doesnt work, there exists a hardmod? if so where can i find it, i would try that maybe then too
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There is a hardmod but very few have made it work .... besides don't void the warranty for a less than 10 to 30 percent or less chance of it working ...
 
and what about the voltmods guru? :D

12 pipes @ 650 MHz GPU i think would also not be bad hehe could install a watercooling for that.

and what about the GC20 RAM i picked up on some forum that 500 MHz is the resulting Maximum theoretical clock rate, which is the reason they are putting it on the new XTs? or how high can it go?
 
truevader said:
and what about the voltmods guru? :D

12 pipes @ 650 MHz GPU i think would also not be bad hehe could install a watercooling for that.

and what about the GC20 RAM i picked up on some forum that 500 MHz is the resulting Maximum theoretical clock rate, which is the reason they are putting it on the new XTs? or how high can it go?
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Yeah ... what's that about .. I like the stars better ... The voltmods on the PCI are on the same chips as the AGP. But they have moved the locations of the VGPU measure point to the middle of the card... and then turned some resistors around... have you looked at the X800 Voltmod here

Maybe W1zzard can post some pics of the backside of the PCIe card ... but if you can locate the same areas on the PCIe card the same settings and resistors in the article should appy ...

I thought the 1.6ns on the Xt was rated 600mhz ... with the 2.0ns I think you'll be slightly handicapped ..
 
thing is... i dont now at all if the card has 1.6ns memory or if it has lasercuts... because i cant find any decent info about it. ATi.com doesnt say much and i cannot find much info on other boards.

i could buy it i guess and report back, but i rather have more info before i decide which card to buy... considering 6800gt.
 
kurik said:
thing is... i dont now at all if the card has 1.6ns memory or if it has lasercuts... because i cant find any decent info about it. ATi.com doesnt say much and i cannot find much info on other boards.

i could buy it i guess and report back, but i rather have more info before i decide which card to buy... considering 6800gt.
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It should tell you the specs for the mem ... only way to find out about the laser cut is to either wait to see if that is the issue with True or buy one ... nothing wrong with getting the GT either... tuff call
 
searched around a bit and cant find any specs on the memory, so i will email the company that sells the card. www.datorbutiken.se

atm it looks like im gonna buy the ati card as the nvidia 6800gt is so much more expensive. if im lucky i get a kickass card, if not ... i still got one of the better cards on the market today. no shame in that.
 
hmms.. still no info found, so i guess i will buy the card anyways and hope for the best.
 
Sapphire X800 Pro VIVO ----> X 800 XT PE

Hello @ All !

I followed this tread all 22 sites. But found a little problem no one had mentioned so far.

I have a Sapphire X800 Pro VIVI (bought in Jan05)

I tryed flashing the Card with the Latests ATI X800 XT PE Bios, using the mentioned Flashrom16..

Now the report:

Bios DeviceID = 0x4A50
ASCI DeviceID = 0x4A49
Existing SSID = 0x0002
New SSID = 0x0002

Existing P/N 113-A26107-103
New Bios P/N 113-A26105-102

and got this error:

Bios P/N does not match with Bios File P/N !
ERROR

Yes i know the force command (-f), but is that occuring error normal within the fashing prozess ?
I said it in the first lines ... no one reportet this error so far.

Hope someone read this post, because i would like to hab an X800XT PE too =)
 
Yeah its normal, i have the exact same card as you just force it with -f and it works fine
 
I would to know if do exist ViVo cards(with Rage theatre) without the yellow cd audio connector.
Thanks.
 
going back to 12 pipes

Thanks for including that empty.bin file!

I had flashed to x800xt pe, but I was getting major artifacts at any clock speed because of the 4 extra pipes.
I had also used the gigabyte bios without realizing that it would stop me from returning to 12 pipes.
That empty.bin bios finally allowed me to return to 12 pipes!

ps My memory also was not stable at 560mhz. I must have picked from the bottom of the x800pro vivo barrel. :(
 
storkman said:
Thanks for including that empty.bin file!

I had flashed to x800xt pe, but I was getting major artifacts at any clock speed because of the 4 extra pipes.
I had also used the gigabyte bios without realizing that it would stop me from returning to 12 pipes.
That empty.bin bios finally allowed me to return to 12 pipes!

ps My memory also was not stable at 560mhz. I must have picked from the bottom of the x800pro vivo barrel. :(
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Stork I recommend trying one of the XT BIOS at 500\500 ... get the 4 extra pipes you'll see the difference ... make sure you use the Flashrom tool from this web site ... ;)
 
Just bought a PCI-Express Sapphire X800 Pro VIVO and stumbled on this thread when doing some reasearch on the card. I have the card now and buy the looks of it it seems to have 2.0 ms RAM. Is there a chance that I could still try to unlock the full 16 pipes? What BIOS would I use? My new mobo is being shipped soon so I can't really test anything just yet, but I was just wonderin' about it.
 
I have the exact same card and w/o a hard mod most likely you won't be able to get the additional 4 pipes since the newer cards have a lasercut.
 
Urlyin, I tried several bios versions, including the x800pro 16 pipe one that is clocked at normal x800pro speeds, with the same result. You think it would make a difference if it was a x800xt bios at lower speeds?

oh well, worth a try ;)
 
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