Xeon Owners Club

[dorsetknob]

.now I am more prone to find some quality X79 mobo and test it with some 8 core Xeon if I can....

Intrested also in xeon 8 core(+)

 

[Edwired]

If you were to test with regular hard drive maybe the difference would show that my guess

 

[Zyll Goliat]

 

[HUSKIE]

who wants 1366 xeon w3530 for free. UK only

 

[Edwired]

Do they really affect that much in older computers more than 10 years and what sort of percentage is lost through the patch. What the risk of not having the patch? If i have to say use vpn would give abit more protection in that case to protect user data.

Just after finding this list of the affected cpu of the xeon family it a long list have a read to see if any of you have the cpu on the list

Complete List Of CPUs Vulnerable To Meltdown / Spectre Rev. 8.0 | Page 5 of 9 | Tech ARP

BILLIONS of CPUs around the world, including those powering smartphones, are affected by Meltdown and/or Spectre. Find out if your desktop, mobile or smartphone CPU is one of them! Don't forget to BOOKMARK & SHARE!

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[Darmok N Jalad]

I don't know....call me crazy but after a week of parallel using both machine(Ryzen 1700&Xeon X58)I am still tend to stay with my old Xeon.....It's just that feel of immediate responsiveness that is somehow much better on X58 I guess maybe is that fast memory latency that is crucial not sure but I can definitely feel it........Also gaming is more or less the same I tested all over and with the mid range GPU there is 0 difference.....now I am more prone to find some quality X79 mobo and test it with some 8 core Xeon if I can....

Even in an old Mac Pro in bootcamp, Westmere makes a great 1080P gaming CPU when paired with something like the RX570. It's hard to part out such a build on the dirt cheap, but grab something like a Z400 and update the GPU and you'll be gaming at Xbox-level prices.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Even in an old Mac Pro in bootcamp, Westmere makes a great 1080P gaming CPU when paired with something like the RX570.

I have an RTX2080 in one of my Dell T3500's paired with an X5680. No OC and the GPU is only just being bottlenecked by the CPU in some games. Still a great platform, but it is showing it's age somewhat.

 

[Edwired]

It only bottlenecked by the game as it asking for too much for the cpu to handle. Most newer games seems to want more cores+threads than the normal 4 cores 4 threads

 

[lexluthermiester]

It only bottlenecked by the game as it asking for too much for the cpu to handle. Most newer games seems to want more cores+threads than the normal 4 cores 4 threads

Good point.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I have an RTX2080 in one of my Dell T3500's paired with an X5680. No OC and the GPU is only just being bottlenecked by the CPU in some games. Still a great platform, but it is showing it's age somewhat.

Shame you can't OC that CPU on that mobo because if you can 4Ghz -4,5Ghz is still more than enough on this Xeons tu push to the limits even some of the high-end GPU's....

 

[Edwired]

Then if any cpu overclock ya have ram running faster but with timing problems will rear it ugly head which in some cases cause bottlenecking in data speed is my guess

 

[juiseman]

I have noticed after the last 2 windows updates (1809 & 1903) that all my Xeon Rigs ( 2 W/ X5675 HP Z400's, 2 Z420's E5 2667v1 E5-2650v2 & 2 Custom E5 builds 2690v2 & 1607v2- seem to have a bit of lag.
Their just not as snappy as they used to be. Hs anyone else noticed this?
I have 1 rig on still on Win 7 E5-2667v2 and it feels very responsive still and the Mac pro 4,1 x5680 seems the same...
Is this just in my head? or has Windows 10 just got much bloat its getting to much for lower end SSD"s? or is it possible all these patches
from Intel are collectively adding up and the performance hit is more than we realize?
If so; the great price/performance ratio that all of us used Xeon & used workstation fans have been enjoying for years....is well...not as good as it was.....this makes me a little sad.

I'd like to hear some other Xeon owners experiences' lately.

 

[Edwired]

well i have asus p5q deluxe with xeon e5450 i hardly see any loss in performance since the latest windows 1903 with latest updates some games just works great, some with lag as it an old e5450 4 cores/ 4 threads. it might be well be anythng doing something in the background as do check in services.msc as i usually turn off sysmain service i notice that can be a hit in performance as i already have crucial mx100 250gb ssd as main operating system and virtual memory is on that all games on a normal hdd. You have to do checks to see what causing the hiccups

 

[Samiam66]

Hello all


I two had noticed some performance issues especially long reboot times ..ending up being a pagefile issue... went in and turned
it off . No need for it with 64gb of ram

 

[Mr.Scott]

Hello all


I two had noticed some performance issues especially long reboot times ..ending up being a pagefile issue... went in and turned
it off . No need for it with 64gb of ram

Better off just setting a static pagefile size of like 2 gig.
Windows needs a pagefile. Some things don't work without one.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Better off just setting a static pagefile size of like 2 gig.
Windows needs a pagefile. Some things don't work without one.

I agree....I keep my pagefile on around 4gb.....

 

[phill]

Pagefiles for me tend to be 1Gb.. I don't think I've set anything higher to be honest in a long time... With the amount of ram now adays and SSDs/M.2 drives, I'm not really one is really required.. As @Mr.Scott mentions some programs require one but leave it as small as you can I'd say

This might be the place to ask I think....

Xeon ES models.. Has anyone or does anyone use these at all in Servers at all or even desk tops??

I'm looking at a few for my servers at home due to the sheer price of the actual models, they are just far too expensive for me... Does anyone think that I'd get any issues with running them in any Dell server I have?? I'd rather not waste money trying a load if they don't work, I may as well wait for actual retail Xeons but X99 Haswell/Broadwell models seem to be a little bit pricey.... I'm also considering one for my MSI X99 board to replace my 5960X as I'd like that to go in an X99 OCF or X99 Classified (when I can finally find one of those boards... They are like rocking horse........)

I just thought I'd ask the question

 

[Edwired]

dont forget that windows need virtual memory for logging bsod event and appications as well otherwise you run into trouble

 

[juiseman]

Do you mean ES as in Xeon Engineering Samples? or did you mean to type Xeon E5? I'm running all (LGA2011v1) C602

X79 based builds.
They are working great for me. But your right the LGA2011v3 X99 CPU's are still a little pricey these days; and with some of these budget Ryzens
blowing them away for not to much more; be very selective of the price vs performance ratio. You may get a lot more performance for a little more price theses days.

But I'm not trying to sway you away from a good X99 E5-Xeon; because you can find some great deals if you look. And I'm still happy about all my Xeon builds I did last year.​

 

[phill]

I do mean ES CPUs but after a bit more of common sense, I think I might miss out on the ES and just grab some proper retail Xeon's. There's little point in me spending out money on an ES CPU if it's not going to work in the R730 properly simply because I'd have to spend double to get replacement CPUs...

So, I've been having a little look around.. There's some rather 'slow' Xeon's out there @ 1.80Ghz, but they are 16 thread, which isn't too bad but being only 55w CPUs as well, I'm pretty impressed with that... For the price as well, that would get me started and I could always get something faster if I wanted to later on.. I did see that the V3's went up to 18 cores, so that's pretty impressive I guess I think tho, I'd probably need an air cooled room rather than my conseratory for the servers... lol They might get a touch warm with 18C's flat out whilst the sun is out... 8C will possibly be a good enough start I think

Can anyone else suggest a particular model of CPU that might be worth a look?? I'm considering V3's but if V4's aren't too much more, then I could consider those as well .....
Found a link here

 

[HUSKIE]

I'm waiting for Intel Xeon E5-2699v3. Hopefully will turn up next week. Perfect for my r5e10. I think. Lol

 

[phill]

I'm waiting for Intel Xeon E5-2699v3. Hopefully will turn up next week. Perfect for my r5e10. I think. Lol

That'll be one heck of a crunching machine
I've just been looking on Ebay for the moment.. I'd need some more time before I considered which CPUs to actually buy but the 55w 8C 16T CPUs I've seen do look fairly appealing Xeon E5-2630L V3 Oh a matched pair too

 

[lexluthermiester]

As @Mr.Scott mentions some programs require one but leave it as small as you can I'd say

One of the programs I use doesn't require one, but runs MUCH better with it set at 3GB. I've been setting it that way for many years. In doing so, I've found that many other processes work better with it there as well.
(EDIT to correct spelling and grammar)

 

[phill]

On of the programs I use does require on, but run MUCH better with one set at 3GB. I've been setting it that way for many years. In doing so, I've found that many other processes work better with it there as well.

I'm intreged @lexluthermiester ... What is the program you use?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm intreged @lexluthermiester ... What is the program you use?

(See correction edit)
The main one is a Corel(formerly Ulead) Video Studio. PaintShop Pro also runs better with a 3GB pagefile. Both have been that way since the XP days. Recently tested whether or not it was still a thing and it is.