Xeon Owners Club

[MrGRiMv25]

I've never turned off the pagefile regardless of how much RAM I have, I use a fixed size to stop fragmentation but that's about it. Like mentioned above, you can have all the RAM in the world but some programs need it for some reason.

I've only got 12GB of RAM at the moment so use a 2GB PF to save space on the SSD.


EDIT:

Was curious about Wprime 1024 scores for my old W3680 so decided to see how it stacked up against the 1600X and 9600K. I left the overclock on my W3680 at a mild 3.6Ghz all core instead of 3.7-3.8 which I normally run it at.

Surprisingly it's 10 seconds faster than the i5 9600K, 5 seconds faster than the normal R5 1600, but 18 seconds slower than the R5 1600X - and as another bonus it's only 30 seconds slower than the R5 2600X. (It was also faster than the 1800X in WinRARs built benchmark)

(I got the scores for the other chips from Guru3D's review of the 9600K)





**Just waiting on the X79 board to be delivered from China now, so can't wait to test the newer 1660-V2 that I've got sat in a drawer, the quad channel and NVME boot will be a god send.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I've never turned off the pagefile regardless of how much RAM I have, I use a fixed size to stop fragmentation but that's about it. Like mentioned above, you can have all the RAM in the world but some programs need it for some reason.

I've only got 12GB of RAM at the moment so use a 2GB PF to save space on the SSD.


EDIT:

Was curious about Wprime 1024 scores for my old W3680 so decided to see how it stacked up against the 1600X and 9600K. I left the overclock on my W3680 at a mild 3.6Ghz all core instead of 3.7-3.8 which I normally run it at.

Surprisingly it's 10 seconds faster than the i5 9600K, 5 seconds faster than the normal R5 1600, but 18 seconds slower than the R5 1600X - and as another bonus it's only 30 seconds slower than the R5 2600X. (It was also faster than the 1800X in WinRARs built benchmark)

(I got the scores for the other chips from Guru3D's review of the 9600K)


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**Just waiting on the X79 board to be delivered from China now, so can't wait to test the newer 1660-V2 that I've got sat in a drawer, the quad channel and NVME boot will be a god send.

What’s fun about the old Mac Pro is that, sometime in the last year or so, Apple put out some firmware updates that now allow booting to NVME. At least you can boot MacOS—I get 1500 r/w! I don’t know if you can also boot to Windows on one, as I only have one NVME drive and BootCamp on these old things takes some effort as it is. They really are fun old machines that you can modernize. I bet you’ll have a good time with Ivy-E though. The E5-2650 v2 is an 8C/16T, and I think they are pretty cheap for such a beast. Curious how your Chinese generic board will manage.

 

[sam_86314]

My X3470 has a new home.

Unlike when it was in the Optiplex, SpeedStep seems to actually work with this board. Idle temps with my 2600K's stock cooler are bouncing between the mid 30s and low 40s and power consumption drops as low as 6.8W compared to 12.7W in the Optiplex.

 

[ManGupta]

the quad channel and NVME boot will be a god send.

I run W3680 (X58) at 4.1 GHz on all cores, triple channel 24 GB DDR3 and NVME boot on dell OEM machine. Its fun.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Unlike when it was in the Optiplex, SpeedStep seems to actually work with this board. Idle temps with my 2600K's stock cooler are bouncing between the mid 30s and low 40s and power consumption drops as low as 6.8W compared to 12.7W in the Optiplex.

You should really do some cable management. Otherwise, very nice!

 

[Edwired]

How could he do cable management when the cables are short enough lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

How could he do cable management when the cables are short enough lol

Oh please do know that I could work wonders with what's pictured above.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

It does make me nervous with the 4 pin hanging over the open fan on the heat sink.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It does make me nervous with the 4 pin hanging over the open fan on the heat sink.

Same here! Those fins catch on one of those wires and it could result in a big problem. If it were me, I'd wrap them up an around the back side of the board.

 

[Edwired]

Do what i do is find another power supply that broken cut the long wires and plenty of heat strink to wrap the wires after the soldering work is done and cover the wires with braiding covers it would do wonders for tidyness

 

[sam_86314]

You should really do some cable management. Otherwise, very nice!

That's a temporary setup in an ancient Antec case. I have a Fractal Node 304 on the way. Last time I worked in a case like this, I had all of the extra cables tied together and shoved into the 5.25" bays.

It does make me nervous with the 4 pin hanging over the open fan on the heat sink.

Yeah, that was an issue. I ended up zip-tying the unplugged connector out of the way, and now I have it set up with a different power supply so it isn't an issue anymore.

Hopefully this will be as bad as it gets (I know the SSD is just shoved into the cable mess. This case doesn't have any 2.5" mounts, and the adapter I was using got in the way of the 480, which now lives in here for the time being). I have little experience with small cases, so we'll see how the Node 304 build goes.

Since I got it, I've installed different memory and a better wireless module. I've discovered that keeping Turbo mode on is a bit too much for this heatsink (It's gotten into the mid-to-high 80s), so I'll just run it at stock speed until I can get a better cooler.

I'm excited to see how this project turns out.

 

[ManGupta]

(I know the SSD is just shoved into the cable mess. This case doesn't have any 2.5" mounts, and the adapter I was using got in the way of the 480).

You need to give some breathing space for SSD.

SATA SSDs are very lightweight and you need not necessarily need an 2.5 inch adapter to mount it.

You can use a double sided tape to paste the SSD anywhere you find space.

 

[sam_86314]

You need to give some breathing space for SSD.

SATA SSDs are very lightweight and you need not necessarily need an 2.5 inch adapter to mount it.

You can use a double sided tape to paste the SSD anywhere you find space.

Alright, last post before I head off to work.

Tried to clean up the cable situation a bit and got the 2.5-3.5" adapter to work.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Alright, last post before I head off to work.

Tried to clean up the cable situation a bit and got the 2.5-3.5" adapter to work.

That tiny little board looks lost in there! How far we’ve come where the GPU dwarfs the motherboard.

 

[Samiam66]

Hello All

Thanks for everyone input on pagefile ..I did go in and set it for 3 gigs ..I didnt think there was any applications that were dependent
on it ..learn something new everyday!!

 

[Final_Fighter]

My X3470 has a new home.

Unlike when it was in the Optiplex, SpeedStep seems to actually work with this board. Idle temps with my 2600K's stock cooler are bouncing between the mid 30s and low 40s and power consumption drops as low as 6.8W compared to 12.7W in the Optiplex.

im sure this is not a problem anymore but just in case you did not catch it, yor memory module closest to the cpu is not fully seated.

 

[Solaris17]

Anyone know if those weird sudo mobos support dual CPUs? Do they have ones like IPMI etc? might be a cheap way into homelab for some.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Alright, last post before I head off to work.

Tried to clean up the cable situation a bit and got the 2.5-3.5" adapter to work.

Very nice, that is so much better.

 

[MrGRiMv25]

What’s fun about the old Mac Pro is that, sometime in the last year or so, Apple put out some firmware updates that now allow booting to NVME. At least you can boot MacOS—I get 1500 r/w! I don’t know if you can also boot to Windows on one, as I only have one NVME drive and BootCamp on these old things takes some effort as it is. They really are fun old machines that you can modernize. I bet you’ll have a good time with Ivy-E though. The E5-2650 v2 is an 8C/16T, and I think they are pretty cheap for such a beast. Curious how your Chinese generic board will manage.

I've got an image of MacOS that I've been meaning to try out at some point, it's a legit version from an iMac I had a year or so back but sold due to not really using it.

The board is a Huanang or something like that, I've seen some people on Youtube use it with 12c CPU's and it handles them fine so should be ok. The NVME boot is weird as as far as I know there were no X79 boards from the big manufacturers that had NVME boot, yet this Chinese board does support it and runs at full PCIEx3 for around 3.2GB/s on the right SSD.

 

[ManGupta]

I've got an image of MacOS that I've been meaning to try out at some point, it's a legit version from an iMac I had a year or so back but sold due to not really using it.

The board is a Huanang or something like that, I've seen some people on Youtube use it with 12c CPU's and it handles them fine so should be ok. The NVME boot is weird as as far as I know there were no X79 boards from the big manufacturers that had NVME boot, yet this Chinese board does support it and runs at full PCIEx3 for around 3.2GB/s on the right SSD.

I run MacOS Sierra (guest PC) in VMWare (on Windows 10 Host PC) on my X58-W3680 Dell system.

I allot 6 out of 12 threads and 8 GB out of 24 GB RAM for (Guest) Virtual Machine (MacOS) .....

It runs very smoothly without any issue.

I have Triple Monitor Setup so I run MacOS on one of the three monitors and Windows 10 on other two.

 

[MrGRiMv25]

Nice, I'll set it up later as got nothing to do today thanks to the bank holiday... I already have Vbox installed with Android 8.1 running so shouldn'ty take too long to setup.

 

[ManGupta]

Nice, I'll set it up later as got nothing to do today thanks to the bank holiday... I already have Vbox installed with Android 8.1 running so shouldn'ty take too long to setup.

There are few Youtube Videos for instructions .......... that you can refer to ....... like .....

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I've got an image of MacOS that I've been meaning to try out at some point, it's a legit version from an iMac I had a year or so back but sold due to not really using it.

The board is a Huanang or something like that, I've seen some people on Youtube use it with 12c CPU's and it handles them fine so should be ok. The NVME boot is weird as as far as I know there were no X79 boards from the big manufacturers that had NVME boot, yet this Chinese board does support it and runs at full PCIEx3 for around 3.2GB/s on the right SSD.

What are the BIOSes like on these? Do they allow overclocking? I see they are cheap on eBay as are many versions of the Ivy-E. Could get a board and 2650 v2 for just over $100.

 

[ManGupta]

What are the BIOSes like on these? Do they allow overclocking? I see they are cheap on eBay as are many versions of the Ivy-E. Could get a board and 2650 v2 for just over $100.

These Chinese Boards are actually H77 Chipset (not really X79). H77 are not Overclockable.

Anyway, the VRMs on these boards are not great, just okey-dokey.

 

[MrGRiMv25]

There are some modded bios' for them that allow overclocking, they're on a Russian site and quite a few people are having much luck with it. OPnce I'm up and running I'll try them and report back. The bios's cant just be flashed straight over, you need some strings from the bios that it comes with, then you add it to the tweaked bios, flash that and you gain multiplier options and a few others. I'll see if I can find the link again.

I've gone the way of getting the highest clocked 6 core for the system to start with, then until I get the modded bios I'll still have quad-channel and NVME boot as a starter course, then flash the bios once I'm more read up on it for OC'ing dessert.

This is the board I have ordered, it has overclocking options available but no voltage control, but that can be fixed with modded bios, everything else like NVME boot/setup is there though. Huanan deluxe X79

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