Xeon Owners Club

[lexluthermiester]

I am really sceptical about those Chinese motherboards

Logically speaking, most motherboard are chinese. The build quality is really the only concern. Most of these no-name motherboards have been good. I've bought a few for my shop. They're damn cheap for the budget builds we've been using them for and not one has failed. There was a run that had an odd bios glitch, but it was easily disabled. Over all, good experience with them. I think chinese makers are trying to build their reputation up and they know that have an uphill climb.

 

[masterdeejay]

About the quality.
This is an average 60 usd ATX sized chinese motherboard.
Huananzhi x79 2.49pb
A few close up pictures for the parts and the soldering quality.

I removed the heatsinks to see the vrm fets and that the chipset is from an used salvaged motherboard. Everything is new.
I think it is better than an amlost 8-10 year old used motherboard from an gaming overclocked pc.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

About the quality.
This is an average 60 usd ATX sized chinese motherboard.
Huananzhi x79 2.49pb
A few close up pictures for the parts and the soldering quality.
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I removed the heatsinks to see the vrm fets and that the chipset is from an used salvaged motherboard. Everything is new.
I think it is better than an amlost 8-10 year old used motherboard from an gaming overclocked pc.

Hmmm....I will not bet on that....those capacitors are the cheapest Chinese garbage not the Japanese capacitors.....also VRM seems like it have 6 power phases,tho' that is not necessarily bad...bios is junk...etc....Again really depend...It can be better then some old used mobo that was really abused for ages but in most cases nah,If I building for myself good used quality motherboard is the way to go.....

 

[masterdeejay]

VRM passive cooling is fine for 100-125w cpus, but not for overclocking. It is for the cheap xeons, not for the unlocked or high wattage 8-10-12 core xeons.
Capacitors is garbage yes. Bios is bad, but there a lot of modded bioses for all chinese mobo for multipler, voltage, memory timings...
It is for the low budget build to run for a few years, not for build for 5+ years like a brand workstation mobo.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

VRM passive cooling is fine for 100-125w cpus, but not for overclocking. It is for the cheap xeons, not for the unlocked or high wattage 8-10-12 core xeons.
Capacitors is garbage yes. Bios is bad, but there a lot of modded bioses for all chinese mobo for multipler, voltage, memory timings...
It is for the low budget build to run for a few years, not for build for 5+ years like a brand workstation mobo.

I agree...It's probably good for low budget under 130W CPU's....btw I see you are from Hungary I am in your neighborhood(Serbia/Belgrade)how much you paying for shipment from China and do you have to pay customs also or not?

 

[masterdeejay]

Shipping is about 6 usd or sometimes free.
99% of the time there is no customs, because chinese sellers write much lower price on the box.
Only the mobile phones, cameras, and a few things gets custom taxes but is is very high 27% of the total price. I think hungary has the highest taxes on the world.
None of the cpu-s, rams, mobos gets custom taxes.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Shipping is about 6 usd or sometimes free.
99% of the time there is no customs, because chinese sellers write much lower price on the box.
Only the mobile phones, cameras, and a few things gets custom taxes but is is very high 27% of the total price. I think hungary has the highest taxes on the world.
None of the cpu-s, rams, mobos gets custom taxes.

THX....Well our customs are horrific also it supposed to be free of charge if the package cost less then 50€ I believe but they know that Chinese sellers putting lower prices so most of the time they will open boxes and see what is in there and then compare the price from our country.....

 

[lexluthermiester]

those capacitors are the cheapest Chinese garbage

Actually, chinese caps aren't that bad anymore. Most are very good quality. Not quite on the level of the solid Japanese brands, but still very good.

 

[Edwired]

The asus p5q deluxe was received by the buyer he is pleased with with the arrival of the motherboard, cpu, ram and i/o so i spoken to him about the history of the whole lot that it been featured on xeon owner club on techpowerup and he have a couple of xeon x5670 on rampage III gene and rampage extreme with the overclock of 4.4ghz and i told him to feature his set up on this hoping he follow through on this

 

[8BitZ80]

The asus p5q deluxe was received by the buyer he is pleased with with the arrival of the motherboard, cpu, ram and i/o so i spoken to him about the history of the whole lot that it been featured on xeon owner club on techpowerup and he have a couple of xeon x5670 on rampage III gene and rampage extreme with the overclock of 4.4ghz and i told him to feature his set up on this hoping he follow through on this

How much $ did you get for the combo? P5Q Deluxe is worth a sum, that's for sure.

 

[Edwired]

i got €90 for the whole combo and threw in the nvidia gt710 2gb gpu for free and €10 for postage. The guy is using it for movies and light gaming as well he going to overclock it as well

 

[8BitZ80]

i got €90 for the whole combo and threw in the nvidia gt710 2gb gpu for free and €10 for postage. The guy is using it for movies and light gaming as well he going to overclock it as well

For a full setup minus storage drive? Gee that's alright. And it's not like the E5450's need an overpowered cooling solution to get a good overclock happening.

 

[freeagent]

8-10 year old motherboards aren’t that bad.. my Rampage III Formula is a much higher quality board then my P8Z77-V which is dead. It works sort of.. in the sense that it responds to power.

But my R3F? Mint.. outside of a blown fan header and some bent fins on the vrm cooler. Hope I didn’t jinx it because I’m saving for a new car and I really don’t want to choose between intel and amd right now. I think it’s between Toyota and Hyundai atm

 

[Edwired]

For a full setup minus storage drive? Gee that's alright. And it's not like the E5450's need an overpowered cooling solution to get a good overclock happening.

I kept the noctua cooler that i had with that set up for a long time. So i sold him the motherboard, cpu ,ram and freebie gpu that is a good starting point. It a good deal all round i could have asked for insane amount but didnt want to be greedy. All he have to get is hdd/ssd and cooler as he have the rest of the things he told me that he have vrm fans that he had for the asus p5q deluxe few years back. Overall i spent €222 to build the old set up it was €22 for the e5450, €65 for two 2gb gskill 1066 ram, and had to find another matching set of gskill for €70 to make it 8gb total this was hard enough to get a hold of as that time not many of them were for sale or already sold and mother board was €65. Im happy enough to recoupe some money back

8-10 year old motherboards aren’t that bad.. my Rampage III Formula is a much higher quality board then my P8Z77-V which is dead. It works sort of.. in the sense that it responds to power.

But my R3F? Mint.. outside of a blown fan header and some bent fins on the vrm cooler. Hope I didn’t jinx it because I’m saving for a new car and I really don’t want to choose between intel and amd right now. I think it’s between Toyota and Hyundai atm

Blown fan header is usually the mosfet that connected to that needs replacing, check for signs like burnt/crack/hole in the mosfet

 

[Toothless]

Thanks to an extremely kind TPU'er here, I have my hands on this beauty. I'm looking to see if I can get it to boot but I need to source some decent air coolers as if I can get it to do the thing, I might dabble into having the blocks on there and see if I can trip the power at my new place with some big clocks.

 

[Edwired]

Where ya get that beauty and what wrong with it first?

 

[SlamHammer]

So I finally threw my piece-by-piece PC together after snatching good deals on amazon and EBay and have been fiddling around with the BIOS on the P9x79 Deluxe board I STOLE.
I managed to get her running stable and at 35/37c at idle on all cores:

needless to say I am MORE than happy until I can save up the spare cash for a 1660v2 or 1680v2!

Those ASUS X79 ROG boards are insanely priced!!

 

[steen]

my P8Z77-V which is dead. It works sort of.. in the sense that it responds to power.

Highly likely to be bad BIOS. Asus of the era is renowned for no POST. Try cpu, 1 stick RAM furthest slot & iGPU. If you get one long beep followed by 3 short beeps, it's BIOS image corruption. Use a dGPU to recover. If no beeps, it could still be BIOS corruption (bootblock) but the solution is flashback or external programmer, otherwise test the mosfets for a dead one. I've recovered a couple now including a P9X79 Deluxe.

So I finally threw my piece-by-piece PC together after snatching good deals on amazon and EBay and have been fiddling around with the BIOS on the P9x79 Deluxe board I STOLE.

I recovered a dead P9X79 Deluxe with 3820 & have contemplated a 1680 V2, but price is silly for what else you can get. Perhaps another IVB-EP may be good enough, though. Thanks for the inspiration.

 

[Edwired]

Highly likely to be bad BIOS. Asus of the era is renowned for no POST. Try cpu, 1 stick RAM furthest slot & iGPU. If you get one long beep followed by 3 short beeps, it's BIOS image corruption. Use a dGPU to recover. If no beeps, it could still be BIOS corruption (bootblock) but the solution is flashback or external programmer, otherwise test the mosfets for a dead one. I've recovered a couple now including a P9X79 Deluxe.



I recovered a dead P9X79 Deluxe with 3820 & have contemplated a 1680 V2, but price is silly for what else you can get. Perhaps another IVB-EP may be good enough, though. Thanks for the inspiration.

That why we should have spare bios chips in case if the original one goes bad

 

[sam_86314]

Small update with my media server...

I noticed she was running a bit slow, and memory usage would be around 60%, so I finally upgraded to 8GB of memory from 4GB.

I snagged two 4GB Hynix DDR3 DIMMs a few months ago at a thrift store for $10USD. I just now got around to installing them since doing RAM upgrades on this system is a huge PITA.

I had to remove the CPU cooler to get to the memory, which meant I had to pull the mobo out completely. The whole process took about two hours and was pretty frustrating, but in the end, we both survived.

She should run a little better now.

 

[freeagent]

I’ve got a little 92x34 3900 rpm screamer that I hot plugged, Ive made that mistake on my last 3 or 4 boards and it always costs me a header lol. That is over the course of a decade.. I learned my lesson on my p8z77v which had 4 headers but now has 3

 

[SlamHammer]

I recovered a dead P9X79 Deluxe with 3820 & have contemplated a 1680 V2, but price is silly for what else you can get. Perhaps another IVB-EP may be good enough, though. Thanks for the inspiration.

oooo yeah I am definitely waiting to snag one for a steal. 200 dollars or more for a 6.7 yr old processor? NO THANK YOU lol

EDIT: I am genuinely surprised that these 16XX V2 Xeons handle overclocking this well. I REALLY feel like Intel missed a mark with the post Ivy-Bridge Xeons and should have kept them or a small family of them - the 16XX family for example - unlocked......

 

[freeagent]

Bad uefi, won’t take a flash

 

[Toothless]

Where ya get that beauty and what wrong with it first?

No boot.

 

[Edwired]

Ouch time to start looking on the board to see what gone wrong it could be from anything like burnt/missing pins, blown caps/mosfets, bad bios and the list goes on from there

I’ve got a little 92x34 3900 rpm screamer that I hot plugged, Ive made that mistake on my last 3 or 4 boards and it always costs me a header lol. That is over the course of a decade.. I learned my lesson on my p8z77v which had 4 headers but now has 3

That why i always check what way the pin header is facing before plugging in the fan as it only goes one way in. I managed to kill the fan header on the asus p5q premium by probing with the dmm and i had a sneeze and the probes touches something else and kaboom magic smoke came out of somewhere of the board that was hard to swallow to be honest