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Video Card(s) 2x ASUS 3870x2s
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Case Lian Li PC-A70B, painted black and other modded aspects :)
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I have sound dampening in my case and can't notice much of a difference, but it looks cool! :laugh:
 
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Video Card(s) RTX 3070 ◦◦◦ heaps of dead GPUs in the garage
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Benchmark Scores It does boot up? I think.
The image is from 3 months back but I couldn't tell...

 

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What are you doing? That looks like a mad scientest machine there.
 
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This is my new favorite case, 830K. Picked it over the armor suit and Antec 1200. Has the monolithic front of a Lian-Li with the black interior and side window of the Antec... and no crappy logos to muck it up. In the last pic you can make out my black cardboard duct that moves air straight through the floor mesh onto the card fan. When I get my 4870X2 it will be completely isolated from the rest of the system since it only pumps air out the back.







That batwing fan has like the best noise/airflow ratio ever. 70 CFM at 18 dB.

Hey, is your Palit 8800GTS loud? Because I have the 9600GT sonic and I was told that it was really quiet and at the lowest speeds it still loud, louder than my CPU fan at high speed.
 
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At idle its pretty silent, and its been very cool since I got this case so the auto fan speed never goes above 50%. So pretty quiet fan wise, lately its developed a squeal at higher frame rates (really noticeable in intro vids where you get over 1000 fps), not sure if its the ram or gpu making the noise. Had a motherboard where the ram slots squealed and somehow they fixed it with a bios update.
 
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Cooling Mixed gases ◦◦◦ Fuzion V1, MCW60/R2, DDC1/DDCT-01s top, PA120.3, EK200, D12SL-12, liq.metal TIM
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Benchmark Scores It does boot up? I think.
What are you doing? That looks like a mad scientest machine there.
What do you mean? :D
There's nothing out of the ordinary going on in the pic - the system just is like that.
:p
 
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Your tubes are exceptioanly long though.
 
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Cooling Mixed gases ◦◦◦ Fuzion V1, MCW60/R2, DDC1/DDCT-01s top, PA120.3, EK200, D12SL-12, liq.metal TIM
Memory 2× 8GB DDR4-3200 ◦◦◦ 2× 8GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP DDR3-1600
Video Card(s) RTX 3070 ◦◦◦ heaps of dead GPUs in the garage
Storage Samsung 980 PRO 2TB ◦◦◦ Samsung 840Pro 256@178GB + 4× WD Red 2TB in RAID10 + LaCie Blade Runner 4TB
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Case Lian Li PC-A16B
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Mouse Logitech MX Master 2S / Contour RollerMouse Red+
Keyboard Logitech Elite Keyboard from 2006 / Contour Balance Keyboard / Logitech diNovo Edge
Software W11 x64 ◦◦◦ W10 x64
Benchmark Scores It does boot up? I think.
The tube going to the GPU has the extension because there was a another card sometime ago that I toyed with. Didn't bother to remove the extension even though I removed the 2nd MCW60.
Rad needs long tubes as it's not attached to the case and is moved from time to time.
 

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I whipped this one together in about 6 hours right after my DFI Dark and Zotac 8800GT arrived.





I cannabalized my techstation for the LC gear, a kind of recycling project lol. The Rocketfish was just there...so I went for it.



I could not see lettting the elements get to my new baby..bug piss and dust and humidity borked the P5K in this picture. Hence the case this time around.




The Zotac looks crazy...the LED fan compliments the tawdry DFI color scheme


The G Skill is very nice. Low voltage high speed...and a bag of chips.
 
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That looks really nice. I'm definitely digging the rocketfish, and I love the way DFI LP boards look. Every time I see one, I want to build a Lego-themed computer around it :laugh: (get one of the boards with yellow slots + Palit card with the yellow cooler + lego case = win)
 

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The thing is a beast. THe X48 reminds me of everything I loved about the old NF4 boards...crazy subtimings tweaks for RAM, lots of fine tuning options for voltage...it's going to take me months to figure it out :D
 

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ya just too bad none of these mobos have a complete manual on what each of the settings really do.
 
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A long time ago i found a thread on teh internetz that explained what they all did and how to work with them. I just said screw it to understanding all of that tedial crap. I :love: my DFI though.
 
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That looks great cyberdruid,rocketfish is lian-li right? ive heard good things about the DK boards...
anyway heres my main at present,although everybody seems to hate my silverstone judging by the crap people gave my rig when i put it up in the case gallery....oh well
 

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Heres my antec as she stands after some drill work:









Not the most impressive in terms of hardware, but i do believe its very tidy. Watch this space, possibly a 260 or 4870 on the way soon!
 

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The G Skill is very nice. Low voltage high speed...and a bag of chips.


Hey Cyber...that left ram stick isnt seated and locked in place. May have been corrected since the image, but just something that stood out to me!
 
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My folding rig.
e7200 @ 4ghz 1.38v's
2gb OCZ Reapers DDR2 800 4 4-4-15
ATi HD 4850



 

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Benchmark Scores 3D Mark 06: 9859 on 2-X1950 pro's Xfire 3D Mark 06: 12794 on 1-3870 3D Mark 06: 16484 Xfire
Intel rig on the tech station....





 
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heres my other pc lol,
ripped the insides out an old pentium 90mhz and replaced with skt478 celeron @ 2.6
 

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That's hardcore. I remember doing stuff to my 133...that Coppermine was hot blooded. Work it!
 
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Well if were posting old stuffs we got working :)


98box for all my old games
 
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ok thought id show you my rig and my room, me and the wife have only just finished this room a week or 2 ago, its still a work in progress as i need some shelves and niknaks to make it a bit less










 

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i love that case mullered . . . and those 2 posters are epic :D

mate i was doubtful about the case, but im not joking i like it even better than my antec 900 i had with my old build and it was cheaper, it looks even more stunning in real life :p only downside is it has that lovely window and the fans it shipped with although good quality tt ones, didnt have any led's, imo theres no point in having a window if you cant see whats inside so i just swapped the rear 120mm tt one with a crappy old led 120 mm i had lying about and theres no difference in temps/noise (win win situation) :toast:

yea i love my posters lol especially the teamwork one right above my monitor hahaha ;), but bunny suicides crack me up lol, too bad my crappy pic doesnt do it justice :p
 
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mate i was doubtful about the case, but im not joking i like it even better than my antec 900 i had with my old build and it was cheaper, it looks even more stunning in real life :p only downside is it has that lovely window and the fans it shipped with although good quality tt ones, didnt have any led's, imo theres no point in having a window if you cant see whats inside so i just swapped the rear 120mm tt one with a crappy old led 120 mm i had lying about and theres no difference in temps/noise (win win situation) :toast:

yea i love my posters lol especially the teamwork one right above my monitor hahaha ;), but bunny suicides crack me up lol, too bad my crappy pic doesnt do it justice :p

im going to have to look at a new case, im considering watercooling but a proper setup this time and the antec just doesnt cut it. The PSU on the floor idea was nice at first but now it just makes things awkward. Plus your cant mount a radiator internally because the rear is laid out wrong due to the PSU being on the bottom . . . Plus that soprano looks gorgeous, the antecs are like marmite really.
 
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