Monday, July 3rd 2023

Xbox Series & One Console Sales Figures Revealed During ID@Xbox Brazil Presentation

Microsoft has normally kept its Xbox console sales figures out of public view—many industry experts reckon that this is due to the One and Series generations consistently lagging behind Sony's equivalent PlayStation offerings—but attendees of the BIG Festival in Brazil last week were surprised by "player count" data appearing during an official presentation. An interesting slide was put on display as part of an ID@Xbox Developer Accelerator Program segment—it revealed that the Series X|S consoles have an accumulated userbase of around 21 million, since launching back in November of 2020. Microsoft also emphasized that 48% of its Series S customers are new to the ecosystem.

The older generation also got a mention—with some subtraction (from their grand total of One + Series) the technology giant has divulged that its entire Xbox One lineup (consisting of the original model and S plus X variants) has sold roughly 58 million units since the late 2013. Microsoft has been fairly transparent about its Xbox One generation losing out to Sony's PlayStation 4—the latter has done business in the region of 117.2 million units, and the latest data (again) reaffirms that the PS4 outsold Xbox One by a 2:1 margin. Sales figures for Series X|S seem to be quite healthy—so far—when compared to the predecessor, but PlayStation 5 is still ahead (38.4 million units sold as of March 2023) and Sony is confident that it will sell close to 20 million consoles this fiscal year. Shortages are said to be a thing of the past—production and distribution issues have been resolved and the PS5 can be pumped out at an admirable rate.
Sources: Paul Tassi / Forbes, Welfare_JBP Tweet
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19 Comments on Xbox Series & One Console Sales Figures Revealed During ID@Xbox Brazil Presentation

#1
TheinsanegamerN
Those sales numbers are rather disappointing for MS. 21 million in 3 years when the opposition managed 38 million with huge supply issues? Man.

I guess this is what happens when your biggest first party games are a Bethesda bug fest and unfinished half-a-halo.
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#2
Dr. Dro
TheinsanegamerNThose sales numbers are rather disappointing for MS. 21 million in 3 years when the opposition managed 38 million with huge supply issues? Man.

I guess this is what happens when your biggest first party games are a Bethesda bug fest and unfinished half-a-halo.
That's not even it. The Xbox died the day that Don Mattrick went on stage to reveal the Xbox One and the draconian DRM measures that they intended to push at the time - always-online, Kinect requirement, ending used game sales... Sony's marketing department expertly exploited the absurdity that went on stage that day. It has been over a decade, and Microsoft has never recovered since. Phil Spencer did an excellent job at keeping Xbox afloat - and if today they're the less hostile, bang for your buck console provider, with XGP, Windows integration etc. - that's definitely not out of Microsoft's kindness but it is a business survival situation for them. Normies buy PlayStation consoles on brand alone. The exclusives finish the entrapment process and generate loyalty. That is all - even with the PS5 being worse in every possible and measurable way vs. the Xbox Series X.

In Brazil, Xbox sales are particularly strong due to the high prices practiced by Sony in our country and how affordable Game Pass is - people can't afford to build a software library, and Game Pass ensures that the console is always useful and fun to use, the primary barrier of entry to any platform, especially walled gardens such as consoles.
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#3
R0H1T
Dr. DroNormies buy PlayStation consoles on brand alone.
Who're you calling a normie :slap:
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#4
Dr. Dro
R0H1TWho're you calling a normie :slap:
I mean, those who buy it out of a genuine preference exist, but the mindshare in the console space belongs entirely to Sony, and even Nintendo fans would recognize that - they who buy Nintendo games primarily out of their healthy first-party catalog you won't see anywhere else ;)
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#5
R0H1T
I buy things/hardware mainly based on specs. Don't care about the brand so long as I get more TFlops/$ spent.

Though warranty (duration) & reliability also plays a huge role.
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#6
Imouto
Dr. DroNormies buy PlayStation consoles on brand alone. The exclusives finish the entrapment process and generate loyalty. That is all - even with the PS5 being worse in every possible and measurable way vs. the Xbox Series X.
If Playstation is the "normie" option then Xbox is the "prude" one. You are forgetting the vast amount of Japanese and other odd titles that don't reach the Xbox because they simply don't sell. NieR: Automata for example didn't get a Xbox port until much, much later because the publisher thought it wouldn't sell.

Some people are convinced Xbox is failing because it doesn't have first party titles and it's because its target audience is so damn vanilla anything remotely alternative is automatically ruled out by the publisher.
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#7
TheinsanegamerN
ImoutoIf Playstation is the "normie" option then Xbox is the "prude" one. You are forgetting the vast amount of Japanese and other odd titles that don't reach the Xbox because they simply don't sell. NieR: Automata for example didn't get a Xbox port until much, much later because the publisher thought it wouldn't sell.

Some people are convinced Xbox is failing because it doesn't have first party titles and it's because its target audience is so damn vanilla anything remotely alternative is automatically ruled out by the publisher.
This is just hilariously wrong. The xbox consumers are not "prudes". The reason japanese developers dont make xbox games is simple,t he xbox DOESNT SELL IN JAPAN. It's numbers are pathetic. Japanese games are mainly made for asian markets, and the xbox has always performed terribly there. Many months xbox sales are outclassed by a single day of playstation sales.

If anything, today's "prudes" are sony themselves, what with their censoring of asian games to fit California protestant standards.
R0H1TI buy things/hardware mainly based on specs. Don't care about the brand so long as I get more TFlops/$ spent.

Though warranty (duration) & reliability also plays a huge role.
Specs dont matter on console, the games do.

The onyl time a more powerful console had a genuinely better game library was the PS4, otherwise every gen has been dominated by middling hardware (the wii/360, the ps2, the ps1, SNES, NES, atari 2600, ece).
Dr. DroThat's not even it. The Xbox died the day that Don Mattrick went on stage to reveal the Xbox One and the draconian DRM measures that they intended to push at the time - always-online, Kinect requirement, ending used game sales... Sony's marketing department expertly exploited the absurdity that went on stage that day. It has been over a decade, and Microsoft has never recovered since. Phil Spencer did an excellent job at keeping Xbox afloat - and if today they're the less hostile, bang for your buck console provider, with XGP, Windows integration etc. - that's definitely not out of Microsoft's kindness but it is a business survival situation for them. Normies buy PlayStation consoles on brand alone. The exclusives finish the entrapment process and generate loyalty. That is all - even with the PS5 being worse in every possible and measurable way vs. the Xbox Series X.

In Brazil, Xbox sales are particularly strong due to the high prices practiced by Sony in our country and how affordable Game Pass is - people can't afford to build a software library, and Game Pass ensures that the console is always useful and fun to use, the primary barrier of entry to any platform, especially walled gardens such as consoles.
Agree they did really exploit it (and the catfishing via fake memory spec leaks by sony was hilarious), but be honest, gamers are major consoomers who will abide awful behaviour if it means they can throw their wallet at publishers for the plundering.

What, exactly, sold the xbox one? Halo? 343 shat the bed multiple times on that front. Forza? Shadow of its former self. Everything else was released on, and played far better on PC. Everything else being small games because MS didnt really have anything.

Gamers would have forgiven MS if the games were there. But they were not. Sony had god of war, infamous, horizon ZD, spiderman, street fighter 5, uncharted, ece. While I dont think these lived up to their predecessors, they all attracted buyers to the platform. Phil Spencer has put his foot in his mouth multiple times, hes the one that announced tha tDRM in the first place, he is the one that talked about cross platform gamer bans, supressing speech, ece ece. He's long been a weight around MS.
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#8
kapone32
The Xbox and PS are at their heart Entertainment systems. The PS is objectively better than the Xbox at doing that. One of the great things about modern PC Gaming is getting to play Japanese Games on the PC. I don't mean now either. Dragon's Dogma anyone. How about Sleeping Dogs?
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#9
Bomby569
kapone32The Xbox and PS are at their heart Entertainment systems. The PS is objectively better than the Xbox at doing that. One of the great things about modern PC Gaming is getting to play Japanese Games on the PC. I don't mean now either. Dragon's Dogma anyone. How about Sleeping Dogs?
i think the thing with PC is not japanese gaming, is everything, what can a PC not do
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#10
sepheronx
It really boils down to:

Got a good PC already? Get a PS5 and Nintendo for exclusives

Dont got a PC worth playing games on? Then get a Xbox and a PS5.

Now, lets be real here girls. PS5 sucks a slight bit less than Xbox only because games selection is so piss poor its unbelievable. Anyway, yeah.
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#11
Bomby569
sepheronxIt really boils down to:

Got a good PC already? Get a PS5 and Nintendo for exclusives

Dont got a PC worth playing games on? Then get a Xbox and a PS5.

Now, lets be real here girls. PS5 sucks a slight bit less than Xbox only because games selection is so piss poor its unbelievable. Anyway, yeah.
there is gamepass, if i didn't had a PC i would probably get a bill gates machine for gamepass, great value. Games for consoles are too expensive and sales are awful. But i guess if money grows on trees for you PS5 is good for a couple of exclusives.
Nintendo is on a game of it's one.

and disclaimer i haven't had a console since the 360/ps3 generation so i really don't care about it either way
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#12
sepheronx
Bomby569there is gamepass, if i didn't had a PC i would probably get a bill gates machine for gamepass, great value. Games for consoles are too expensive and sales are awful. But i guess if money grows on trees for you PS5 is good for a couple of exclusives.
Nintendo is on a game of it's one.

and disclaimer i haven't had a console since the 360/ps3 generation so i really don't care about it either way
Buying into xbox game pass is simply promoting no ownership in anything. I am vehemently against such services.

With that said, I guess if one couldn't give a rats behind and just wants to play games and doesn't care about ownership or not worried about titles being removed in future, then xbox S is a good buy.
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#13
Bomby569
sepheronxBuying into xbox game pass is simply promoting no ownership in anything. I am vehemently against such services.

With that said, I guess if one couldn't give a rats behind and just wants to play games and doesn't care about ownership or not worried about titles being removed in future, then xbox S is a good buy.
i believe you can buy them at a discount
In a world were all games are shit and there is no demos, i think it's not that bad.
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#14
kapone32
Bomby569i think the thing with PC is not japanese gaming, is everything, what can a PC not do
I thought that was already established but now we also get those then lol.
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#15
Imouto
TheinsanegamerNThis is just hilariously wrong. The xbox consumers are not "prudes". The reason japanese developers dont make xbox games is simple,t he xbox DOESNT SELL IN JAPAN. It's numbers are pathetic. Japanese games are mainly made for asian markets, and the xbox has always performed terribly there. Many months xbox sales are outclassed by a single day of playstation sales.
That's just plain wrong. It's like saying that manga and anime are mainly made for Japan and deny that there's a massive market in the rest of the world.

Just to make sure you understand: Genshin Impact is a massive success worldwide. Do you know which is the only platform missing it? Xbox. Why? Because its user base is not interested in collecting digital waifus and do cute shit with them.

I repeat. A publisher with a massive worldwide hit on its hands isn't interested in making a port for the Xbox.
TheinsanegamerNIf anything, today's "prudes" are sony themselves, what with their censoring of asian games to fit California protestant standards.
Chill dude, I don't think you'd want to be associated with other individuals saying this stuff.
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#16
sepheronx
ImoutoThat's just plain wrong. It's like saying that manga and anime are mainly made for Japan and deny that there's a massive market in the rest of the world.

Just to make sure you understand: Genshin Impact is a massive success worldwide. Do you know which is the only platform missing it? Xbox. Why? Because its user base is not interested in collecting digital waifus and do cute shit with them.

I repeat. A publisher with a massive worldwide hit on its hands isn't interested in making a port for the Xbox.


Chill dude, I don't think you'd want to be associated with other individuals saying this stuff.
Who are these other "individuals" you speak of?
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#17
Imouto
sepheronxWho are these other "individuals" you speak of?
Infrabeings like the ones populating the comment section at sankakucomplex.
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#18
sepheronx
ImoutoInfrabeings like the ones populating the comment section at sankakucomplex.
Don't know what that is.
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#19
Imouto
sepheronxDon't know what that is.
It's better that way, trust me.
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