docnorthIs Intel 3 technically still a 7nm node with improved density and properties? It's a real question, thanks.

dgianstefaninm ratings aren't real, just marketing approximations of technology level. This goes for TSMC and Samsung too.

Compare density, frequency and power performance, not nm.

DavenEasier said than done. These numbers are very hard to come by with certainty.

dgianstefaniwww.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/

Our database has detailed info. Weighing transistors/die size is a simple way of figuring out density.

DavenI’ve had issues with the TPU database using placeholder values based on ‘leaked’ or ‘rumored’ information before the actual product launch and then not updating when the actual numbers come out. For example, the entry for the MI300X was totally wrong and these wrong numbers made it into a front page article after launch. The numbers have been fixed since I pointed out the error.

Don’t get me wrong, I love databases like the one at TPU but the website has to have the personnel to keep it accurate which is not an easy thing to do or have the money for a dedicated job position.

Edit: And your screen capture is for a specific CPU, not the highest density capabilities of a fab node. They are not always one in the same. Case in point, Zen 4 vs Zen 4c, same node but different densities.

dgianstefaninm ratings aren't real, just marketing approximations of technology level. This goes for TSMC and Samsung too.

Compare density, frequency and power performance, not nm.

dgianstefaninm ratings aren't real, just marketing approximations of technology level. This goes for TSMC and Samsung too.

Compare density, frequency and power performance, not nm.

docnorthYes I've learned that from the Coffee Lake vs Zen era, e.g. 8700(K) vs ryzen 2700x (more experienced members probably knew this long ago). Hence the term technically, I'm still curious, but it is also good to know if a node has further margins of improvement or has reached it's limits.

docnorthIs Intel 3 technically still a 7nm node with improved density and properties? It's a real question, thanks.

ReadlightWhy shines in many colors?

AMDK11There are physically 33 cores on the board. 4 rows of 7 cores and 1 row of 5 cores.

This is not GraniteRapids!

The photos show EmeraldRapids with physically 33 RaptorCove cores.

WirkoBecause the transistor size is much closer to the wavelengths of visible light than the oligopoly says aloud.


Yes. the die size also checks out, it's roughly 25 x 30 mm.

Historically, the process node name referred to a number of different features of a transistor including the gate length as well as M1 half-pitch. Most recently, due to various marketing and discrepancies among foundries, the number itself has lost the exact meaning it once held. Recent technology nodes such as 22 nm, 16 nm, 14 nm, and 10 nm refer purely to a specific generation of chips made in a particular technology. It does not correspond to any gate length or half pitch. Nevertheless, the name convention has stuck and it's what the leading foundries call their nodes.

Since around 2017 node names have been entirely overtaken by marketing with some leading-edge foundries using node names ambiguously to represent slightly modified processes. Additionally, the size, density, and performance of the transistors among foundries no longer matches between foundries. For example, Intel's 10 nm is comparable to foundries 7 nm while Intel's 7 nm is comparable to foundries 5 nm.