Windows 11 General Discussion

lexluthermiester · Mar 4, 2024

windwhirl said:
This is a Windows 11 General Discussion thread, complaints are gonna be seen here.

True. There will be complaints. And they are welcome as without input and observations, both positive and negative, progress can never be made.

windwhirl · Mar 5, 2024

Windows Subsystem for Android™️

Windows Subsystem for Android™️ enables your Windows 11 device to run Android applications that are available in the Amazon Appstore. Learn more about set up, device requirements, installing and uninstalling, input compatibility, testing and debugging, and using the Amazon Appstore.

learn.microsoft.com

If anyone was using the Windows Subsystem for Android, Microsoft is killing it in one year. For people that never got to use it, it's already killed.

remixedcat · Mar 5, 2024

so what gen intel processor do you need these days for windows 11 after this update? is 8th gen still good or not I'm getting conflicting info on it

ThrashZone · Mar 5, 2024

Hi,
As long as you have TPM it shouldn't matter.

Space Lynx · Mar 5, 2024

remixedcat said:
so what gen intel processor do you need these days for windows 11 after this update? is 8th gen still good or not I'm getting conflicting info on it

My Intel 8th gen dual core Dell laptop handled a clean install of win 11 just fine in 2022. no Rufus, just an official clean install from Microsoft and it works fine still my friend says that I gave it to

mtosev · Mar 5, 2024

windwhirl said:
Windows Subsystem for Android™️

Windows Subsystem for Android™️ enables your Windows 11 device to run Android applications that are available in the Amazon Appstore. Learn more about set up, device requirements, installing and uninstalling, input compatibility, testing and debugging, and using the Amazon Appstore.

learn.microsoft.com

If anyone was using the Windows Subsystem for Android, Microsoft is killing it in one year. For people that never got to use it, it's already killed.

I never got to try it sadly.

windwhirl · Mar 5, 2024

remixedcat said:
so what gen intel processor do you need these days for windows 11 after this update? is 8th gen still good or not I'm getting conflicting info on it

Windows Processor Requirements

This specification details the processors that can be used by OEMs to manufacture Customer Systems that include Windows Products (including Custom Images).

learn.microsoft.com

Microsoft has a list of compatible CPUs for 22H2 and 23H2 versions of Windows that is separate from the list for the original Windows 11 (21H2), you're better off checking for the specific processor model yourself.

I am seeing at least some 8th gen Core processors there, tho, so it should be good I guess, workarounds should be still good in any case

mechtech · Mar 5, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
With Rufus mods applied, yes.

I've used the recent ISO to no effect.

YES! Always! I never do online installs.

Would you still use W11, if you could not do any of that and not alter the OS in any way after installation??

ThrashZone · Mar 5, 2024

mechtech said:
Would you still use W11, if you could not do any of that and not alter the OS in any way after installation??

Hi,
Not sure about Lex but I sure wouldn't

I got a taste of default 11 home install man that is a steaming pile of dung :laugh:

mechtech · Mar 6, 2024

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Not sure about Lex but I sure wouldn't

I got a taste of default 11 home install man that is a steaming pile of dung

I appreciate the honesty. lol

Onasi · Mar 6, 2024

mechtech said:
Would you still use W11, if you could not do any of that and not alter the OS in any way after installation??

If I wanted an OS that’s set in stone and unalterable by user I would be on MacOS.

lexluthermiester · Mar 6, 2024

mechtech said:
Would you still use W11, if you could not do any of that and not alter the OS in any way after installation??

No, I would not, and I am FAR from alone on that point.

remixedcat said:
so what gen intel processor do you need these days for windows 11 after this update? is 8th gen still good or not I'm getting conflicting info on it

The specs microsoft spouts are one thing. In reality? A first gen Core i3 dual core, 4gb of system RAM and at least a 2GB dGPU would be enough for a smooth experience.

ThrashZone · Mar 6, 2024

Hi,
Yep win-10 needs far fewer tweaks
Start menu included seeing it can be easy resized to show all apps without third party tools.
Ribbon I used office 2007 so I sort of got used to it although I never liked it as much as simple win-7 explorer/.... maybe the dots need to be longer line hehe :laugh:

remixedcat · Mar 6, 2024

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yep win-10 needs far fewer tweaks
Start menu included seeing it can be easy resized to show all apps without third party tools.
Ribbon I used office 2007 so I sort of got used to it although I never liked it as much as simple win-7 explorer/.... maybe the dots need to be longer line hehe

windows 11 start menu is so laggy and it's a mess compared to this in linux
This menu is much simpler, quicker, and faster.... and no bullshit bloaty floaty menus with what seems to be programmed delay that windows 11 seems to have

ThrashZone · Mar 6, 2024

Hi,
Blinded by neon :laugh:

remixedcat · Mar 6, 2024

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Blinded by neon

I love it tho!! I got different colors on every system in my house! all color coded and pretty!

mechtech · Mar 6, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
No, I would not, and I am FAR from alone on that point.

What would you use in such a case?

R-T-B · Mar 6, 2024

windwhirl said:
Windows Subsystem for Android™️

Windows Subsystem for Android™️ enables your Windows 11 device to run Android applications that are available in the Amazon Appstore. Learn more about set up, device requirements, installing and uninstalling, input compatibility, testing and debugging, and using the Amazon Appstore.

learn.microsoft.com

If anyone was using the Windows Subsystem for Android, Microsoft is killing it in one year. For people that never got to use it, it's already killed.

Jesus that was quick.

lexluthermiester · Mar 6, 2024

mechtech said:
What would you use in such a case?

Things would get weird here. Would stay on a customizable version of 11 for as long as was feasible and then I'd likely just go to Linux full time for online activities and keep my Windows machines offline. At that point I would move any systems that support it back to Win7.

P4-630 · Mar 6, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Things would get weird here. Would stay on a customizable version of 11 for as long as was feasible and then I'd likely just go to Linux full time for online activities and keep my Windows machines offline. At that point I would move any systems that support it back to Win7.

Or get an ATM with Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 till and use it till Jan 13, 2032...

ThrashZone · Mar 6, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Things would get weird here. Would stay on a customizable version of 11 for as long as was feasible and then I'd likely just go to Linux full time for online activities and keep my Windows machines offline. At that point I would move any systems that support it back to Win7.

Hi,
Yeah thinking 11 ~~2h24~~ oops 24h2 update things will get tightened up a lot hehe
Hopefully rufus will keep up the great work though.

Klemc · Mar 7, 2024

Klemc said:
@lexluthermiester

i'm French, blink bc i thinked to blinking of eyes...

So :
disabling this service (netprofm), makes the screen have 1 frame black (it doesn't displays anything, black screen) then 1 frame displaying screen (i say 1 frame but i can't count frames)...
Also, it loads longtime at login, and as screen blinks it's hard to use double click, or select a thing makes it to be unselected at next blink (more than 1 by sec). It's unusable.

Anyway i could (always) use CTRL+ALT+SUP then CTRL+Click on login's reboot button to choose "emergency" to be able to "safeboot" at next reboot
In safemode re-enable this service fixes all problems.

I returned to services, and found some remnants, as i only play games there, i disable most services as possibly.

EDIT: done, i deactived the ones with green.

ThrashZone · Mar 7, 2024

Hi,
Combo put copilot in the toilet and flush reg hehe
Prior was just to disable

Completely Disable and Remove Copilot in Windows 11 Tutorial

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Klemc · Mar 9, 2024

Anyway, i disabled dualboot (who wants manage two windows on the same PC anyway) and reinstalled ELV (23h2), and kept services default...

mb194dc · Mar 9, 2024

P4-630 said:
Or get an ATM with Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 till and use it till Jan 13, 2032...

Way ahead of you...

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Windows 11 General Discussion

lexluthermiester

windwhirl

Windows Subsystem for Android™️

remixedcat

ThrashZone

Space Lynx

Astronaut

mtosev

Windows Subsystem for Android™️

windwhirl

Windows Processor Requirements

mechtech

ThrashZone

mechtech

Onasi

lexluthermiester

ThrashZone

remixedcat

ThrashZone

remixedcat

mechtech

R-T-B

Windows Subsystem for Android™️

lexluthermiester

P4-630

ThrashZone

Klemc

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Completely Disable and Remove Copilot in Windows 11 Tutorial

Klemc

mb194dc

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