Dude, does Blu-Ray even exist ? apart from movies? - I'm not actually SEEING these drives OR media on sale ANYWHERE...

Retail? Dealers? Nowhere...

And the places who can ORDER you media or a drive (because they don't stock it) like online stores, are so insanely expensive whats even the point?

The drive alone costs as much as a 2TB HDD, and 2TB of media costs as much as TWO 2TB drives :\ AND would take Umpteen hours to burn in the first place.

It doesn't even make sense if your only intention was to burn Blu-Ray discs to watch on your stand-alone player - since it would have to be already on yer HDD and just about ANY video card, and even many cheap integrated GPU motherboards now output HDMI anyway - so you could just use an HTPC for like WAY cheaper?

Maybe I'm just missing the point.

It was almost the same situation with DVD RW, Im just waiting for prices to come down to DVDRW prices of ~2.5yrs ago, then I will consider picking one up. Until then I am sticking with Ext HDD.

It will take years for bluray to become mainstream. Hopefully massive price drops in the future so that it becomes as cheap as DVDs, then we can think about making backups there.

If I am not doing my math wrong, 12X should finally get burning a full 50GB to a Blu-ray in under 1 hour.

theonedubIt was almost the same situation with DVD RW, Im just waiting for prices to come down to DVDRW prices of ~2.5yrs ago, then I will consider picking one up. Until then I am sticking with Ext HDD.

and DVD. and CD-RW. and CD. and floppy. and hard drives...


of course its expensive. its new and shiny and not mass adopted yet.

I would like one just for movie playback, but i'm waiting til i can get a burner for $100 au

Musselsand DVD. and CD-RW. and CD. and floppy. and hard drives...


of course its expensive. its new and shiny and not mass adopted yet.

I would like one just for movie playback, but i'm waiting til i can get a burner for $100 au

Does it really have to be a burner. I know a guy on TPU that is selling an Blu-ray Drive for like $55, but I don't know if he will ship outside the US.

TheLaughingManDoes it really have to be a burner. I know a guy on TPU that is selling an Blu-ray Drive for like $55, but I don't know if he will ship outside the US.

i'd like a burner. for now i borrow my housemates external to rip BR disks and watch them later, so i dont really need a read only drive.

well i'm very tempted to buy a bd-rom burner because of the amounts of data that can be backed up,
but i would like to see some data on how reliable these discs are ,
i mean 4.5 gb is a lot of info ,video or games to lose but 20 gb :eek: now that would be a tragedy

as for prices of discs, dvd discs can be bought for about 50 pence each (uk)or 0.75 US$
but bdrom disc are about £ 7.50 each (uk) or 11.30 US$ (prices based on verbatim discs) the only available bd-rom discs in my area

Id get one, 315 isn't too bad, considering what they were going for. Id use them for movies, but also other things, especially if the PS3 becomes hackable!!! :D

Musselsand DVD. and CD-RW. and CD. and floppy. and hard drives...


of course its expensive. its new and shiny and not mass adopted yet.

I would like one just for movie playback, but i'm waiting til i can get a burner for $100 au

Ah what the it's neither new nor shiny and the only reason it's not mass adopted yet is Price make it as cheap as an DVDRW drive and the same with the Disks and sit back and watch just how fast it gets adopted. The Because it's new is a rather lame excuse for manufacturers and retailers to gouge consumers with a rather small evolution in already existing technology

all the BDr disks i can find here in New Zealand are only 2.5x and cost upwards of $14.95 each and I am Yet to find a reliable 10x DL DVD+r disk although the burner is 3yrs old wheres the Media wheres the 18x and 20x and now 22x DVDr media come on i want the media my drive can use other wise whats the point

AthloniteAh what the it's neither new nor shiny and the only reason it's not mass adopted yet is Price make it as cheap as an DVDRW drive and the same with the Disks and sit back and watch just how fast it gets adopted. The Because it's new is a rather lame excuse for manufacturers and retailers to gouge consumers with a rather small evolution in already existing technology

blu ray is indeed still new. it took many years for CD and DVD to achieve mass adoption. look at CD for audio - they still havent moved to DVD for that, let alone blu ray.

Musselsblu ray is indeed still new. it took many years for CD and DVD to achieve mass adoption. look at CD for audio - they still havent moved to DVD for that, let alone blu ray.

only because of price did cd and then dvd not take off as fast as it could have simple 1x cdrom drives were a 1000 bucks when they first came out and there are audioDVDs out not many i'll admit but there are a few i've seen most contain a mix of cd/dvdaudio and dvdvideo..

but my point still remains BDrom and BDr is only a small evolution in technology but the cost of which is unreasonably high and faster drives are useless without the media to use in them have you seen many 22x DVD±R disks around or for that matter any true 18x DVDR± disks I haven't seen a single one, So what was the point of bringing out a BDr drive that burns non-existent BDr disks at 12x other than to gouge the consumers wallet yet again:mad:

@Mussels

this excerpt was taken from wikipedia

Sony started two projects applying the new diodes: UDO (Ultra Density Optical), and DVR Blue (together with Pioneer), a format of rewritable discs that would eventually become Blu-ray Disc (more specifically, BD-RE).[10] The core technologies of the formats are essentially similar.

The first DVR Blue prototypes were unveiled at the CEATEC exhibition in October 2000.[11] On February 19, 2002, the project was officially announced as Blu-ray,[12][13] and Blu-ray Disc Founders was founded by the nine initial members.

The first consumer device was in stores on April 10, 2003. This device was the Sony BDZ-S77, a BD-RE recorder that was made available only in Japan. The recommended price was US$3800;[14] however, there was no standard for prerecorded video, and no movies were released for this player. The Blu-ray Disc standard was still years away, as a newer, more secure Digital Rights Management (DRM) system was needed before Hollywood studios would accept it—not wanting to repeat the failure of the Content Scramble System used on standard DVDs. On October 4, 2004, the Blu-ray Disc Founders was officially changed to the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), and 20th Century Fox joined the BDA's Board of Directors

so the techs been round for ten years in the computer world thats a long time and commercially available for 6 years thats quite a long time when it comes to computer equipment or even home entertainment equipment for that matter

Athlonite@Mussels

this excerpt was taken from wikipedia

Sony started two projects applying the new diodes: UDO (Ultra Density Optical), and DVR Blue (together with Pioneer), a format of rewritable discs that would eventually become Blu-ray Disc (more specifically, BD-RE).[10] The core technologies of the formats are essentially similar.

The first DVR Blue prototypes were unveiled at the CEATEC exhibition in October 2000.[11] On February 19, 2002, the project was officially announced as Blu-ray,[12][13] and Blu-ray Disc Founders was founded by the nine initial members.

The first consumer device was in stores on April 10, 2003. This device was the Sony BDZ-S77, a BD-RE recorder that was made available only in Japan. The recommended price was US$3800;[14] however, there was no standard for prerecorded video, and no movies were released for this player. The Blu-ray Disc standard was still years away, as a newer, more secure Digital Rights Management (DRM) system was needed before Hollywood studios would accept it—not wanting to repeat the failure of the Content Scramble System used on standard DVDs. On October 4, 2004, the Blu-ray Disc Founders was officially changed to the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), and 20th Century Fox joined the BDA's Board of Directors

so the techs been round for ten years in the computer world thats a long time and commercially available for 6 years thats quite a long time when it comes to computer equipment or even home entertainment equipment for that matter

For equipment maybe, but not for changes in media formats. First Optical audio disc that would become CD's was demonstrated in 1976. They did not get acclaim by the public until 1985 and were not the standard for audio until 1988.

And I doubt disc audio will survive long enough to move to DVD's or Blu-rays. At this point it is getting to point where either downloadable music or music on small memory cards like SDHC cards will replace CD's. I honestly think in 5 to 10 years music in stores will be sold by you going up to terminal like the Redbox movie retail units. You select the songs/albums you want for a flat fee. It records them to a MDHC card and slides the card out to you.