Many Thanks to NHKS for the tip.

it's nice to kinda see the price.

Let the waterblocks roll out!!!

This whole new generation no matter AMD or Nvidia there is no performance/price gain at all.

It seems like Nvidia is leaking one bit of information after another, just to keep HD7970-buyers holding off. I guess so far it's working pretty well as we've been seeing at least two posts a day about the 680 on TPU for the last two weeks :laugh:

imitationIt seems like Nvidia is leaking one bit of information after another, just to keep HD7970-buyers holding off. I guess so far it's working pretty well as we've been seeing at least two posts a day about the 680 on TPU for the last two weeks :laugh:

And AMD started to instructing all board partners to send out any overclocked 7970 edition to reviewers. Diverting interest from 680 and blurring 7970 vs 680 performance comparison.

You'll see in a couple of days, more OCed 7970 reviews will pop-up.
At least one of AMD' fanboy sites already did that.

is it HDMI or mini HDMI that kepler use for HD connection...

sic_doniis it HDMI or mini HDMI that kepler use for HD connection...

four display outputs - dual DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort. <-- taken from: www.techpowerup.com/162272/New-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-680-Pictures-Hit-The-Web.html

puma99dk|four display outputs - dual DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort. <-- taken from: www.techpowerup.com/162272/New-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-680-Pictures-Hit-The-Web.html

thanks mate :toast:

aishhh...my mini HDMI cable can't be used for kepler then :roll:

okidnai.imgur.com/nWG6F.jpg

imgur.com/a/aQmuA#6n7nC

teng qyu om...heheh

sic_doniis it HDMI or mini HDMI that kepler use for HD connection...

imgur.com/a/aQmuA#6n7nC

Refresh the picture, price moved to 513,3 euro...
It will be more expensive and more expensive...

sic_donithanks mate :toast:

aishhh...my mini HDMI cable can't be used for kepler then :roll:




teng qyu om...heheh

ur welcome sic_doni and look at the pic okidna posted and u will see the connectors ^^

imitationIt seems like Nvidia is leaking one bit of information after another, just to keep HD7970-buyers holding off. I guess so far it's working pretty well as we've been seeing at least two posts a day about the 680 on TPU for the last two weeks :laugh:

I just got my 7970 and waterblock for it in the mail like 4 days ago, so it's not working as well as you might think ;) Remember even a 7950 is $450, you aren't going to see a ton of posts about people tossing down on cards like that, most people will be after 7870's and such.

God bless the power of marketing a certain GPU, NVIDIA...

Yes this price is huge for midlle class grafic procesor GK104 wich should be in 250€ price range.
This pre-order is not for GK100 or GK110 model card !!!AMD start selling AMD 7870 for 350€ wich has midle class GPU procesor on and is 100€ over the prices for this class!
They trying to increase prices for 28 nm GPU's .nVidia still dont care if design cards get
back motherboard slot with liquid collers block or not .AMD have this design for few years.
I cant wait to see preformance of this card and next GK100 or GK110 model.

I am Dutch, and looking at prices of stuff constantly, and I can tell you this isnt a website I had ever heard of, from the other prices I saw, they arent very representable on average. So I wouldnt read everything into that price, it's not our local newegg or something.
Their selection of gfx cards isnt that large either.

"Middle class" - You all need to get that out of your head. It PERFORMS like the 7970 so IT IS a high end GPU. I never heard these complaints when the 480 came out... just that, "oh its a failure, it doesnt have the 512c like we all thought". Not hearing that this time around even though its a strikingly similar case to me.

Blame AMD. Blame them for not coming out with something to FORCE Nvidia's hand in to putting out the supposed monster. Dont blame Nvidia for being a for profit organization. From a business standpoint this is genius if you ask me. They should have the headroom to compete with pricing too in case AMD lowers theirs. So in the end, this should all benefit consumers.

okidnaAnd AMD started to instructing all board partners to send out any overclocked 7970 edition to reviewers. Diverting interest from 680 and blurring 7970 vs 680 performance comparison.

You'll see in a couple of days, more OCed 7970 reviews will pop-up.
At least one of AMD' fanboy sites already did that.

HH is an AMD fanboy site?

www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1339/pg14/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-cores-graphics-card-review-conclusion.html

www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1207/pg14/asus-matrix-gtx-580-platinum-graphics-card-review-conclusion.html

On an Asus GTX580: "The best just got better."

They're just very lenient reviewers all round.

Exactly why do you have to label them a fanboi site? AMD did drastically change the way gpus work and how the cores go with graphics core next. New architecture, so we will see how things plan out. You cannot sit here and tell me Nvidia just through some shit together in the last month after AMD released the 7XXX series.

EarthDog"Middle class" - You all need to get that out of your head. It PERFORMS like the 7970 so IT IS a high end GPU. I never heard these complaints when the 480 came out... just that, "oh its a failure, it doesnt have the 512c like we all thought". Not hearing that this time around even though its a strikingly similar case to me.

Blame AMD. Blame them for not coming out with something to FORCE Nvidia's hand in to putting out the supposed monster. Dont blame Nvidia for being a for profit organization. From a business standpoint this is genius if you ask me. They should have the headroom to compete with pricing too in case AMD lowers theirs. So in the end, this should all benefit consumers.

This is middle class ! If AMD is not up to the job i canot help ! And about profit ,best models always have bin priced from 500€ to 600€ and this is not best model ,i hope you can afford.Most people dont !GTX680 is just the name based on GK-104 procesor :cool:

If it cost like a high end, and performs like a high end...
Then its a freaking high-end card.
it doesn't matter if the core is KG104 or BS104 or FU104...
Want better cards from NVIDIA? guess u'll have to wait for another high-end carrying the name GTX700

Dj-ElectriCIf it cost like a high end, and performs like a high end...
Then its a freaking high-end card.
it doesn't matter if the core is KG104 or BS104 or FU104...
Want better cards from NVIDIA? guess u'll have to wait for another high-end carrying the name GTX700

^Agreed.

I don't see why people are trying to treat it like it's a mid-range card when we know for damn sure it's going to be $549-$599.

Dj-ElectriCIf it cost like a high end, and performs like a high end...
Then its a freaking high-end card.
it doesn't matter if the core is KG104 or BS104 or FU104...
Want better cards from NVIDIA? guess u'll have to wait for another high-end carrying the name GTX700

symmetrical^Agreed.

I don't see why people are trying to treat it like it's a mid-range card when we know for damn sure it's going to be $549-$599.

+1

bogamiThis is middle class ! If AMD is not up to the job i canot help ! And about profit ,best models always have bin priced from 500€ to 600€ and this is not best model ,i hope you can afford.Most people dont !GTX680 is just the name based on GK-104 procesor :cool:

Like I said, you are going to have to get over the fact that you think its a midrange card because of its core. It may not be the GK110 or w/e the Nvidia monster is supposed to be. And it may be a 'mid-range' core. But the fact that it PERFORMS like a high end card means it IS an high end card, which means it will cost around its competitors high end card. I mentioned before in another thread, I bet that have some pricing headroom if AMD plays that game. It will be easier to respond to the market with less impact to the business.

If it had the GK110 core but performed WORSE than 7970, would you expect it to come in at $550 JUST because it has that core in it :shadedshu ? That is your logic. Pricing is partially based on performance, there is no escaping that. ;)

symmetrical^Agreed.

I don't see why people are trying to treat it like it's a mid-range card when we know for damn sure it's going to be $549-$599.

I see why u say this, since GTX680 performs like high-end it 'should' be high end.. but.. what defines high-end? the name GTX680, competitor's performance(7970) or the chip used inside.. since AMD TahitiXT(HD7970) is comparable to GK104, it does not mean GK104 is the 'actual' high-end... according to nvidia's Kepler line-up, GK100 should have been the 'actual' high-end..but there is no denying, it probably has yield problems and it is convenient for nvidia to substitute it with GK104..

that's why ppl who were expecting the actual GK100, are referring to GTX680 as mid-range..
if GK100 existed now inside 680, sure it would have costed around 600$, but GK104 would have been used inside 660 which would make it difficult for nvidia to demand high prices(>500$).. we are not happy that price is being set based on the name 680 just becos the performance is like 7970

as consumers, it is not unfair to expect the best out of a new/updated architecture & smaller 28 node.. the performance/$ jump from Fermi-Kepler could have been larger....
but it did not happen this time and so gk104 will be 680.. no changing that and u win the debate


UPDATE: the original link listing the Zotac GTX680 has been removed:rolleyes:.. dont ask me why :D

Think of it as a mid-range chip in a high-end card.