Wednesday, October 30th 2013
Radeon R9 290 (non-X) Launch Pushed Back a Week
Launch of AMD's Radeon R9 290 (non-X) is reportedly pushed back by a week, to Tuesday, November 5, 2013. The card was expected to launch on October 31, 2013. The reason for this delay? AMD reportedly developed a new driver that significantly improves performance on the R9 290. AMD pushed this driver onto reviewers at the last minute, and asked them to re-bench their R9 290 samples from scratch, extending their NDA till the 5th. The driver reportedly makes the R9 290 extremely competitive with GeForce GTX 780. A side-effect of that would be that the recently launched Radeon R9 290X could be rendered unattractive. It remains to be seen if the driver also proportionately improves performance on the R9 290X, and how AMD ends up pricing the R9 290.
Source:
3DCenter.org
64 Comments on Radeon R9 290 (non-X) Launch Pushed Back a Week
I hope you do realize amd designed hawaii to be as cost effective as possible while performing better than titan right? Titan is 550mm2+ while hawaii is a good 100mm2 smaller in size, amd couldve easily made a bigger chip and clock it lower to get same performance with less power use but then price goes up with that so trust me nvidia selling gtx780 at 500$ is not something they are happy with, hence why they will release gtx780ti which will probably be clocked much higher for better performance.
As for the factory clocked 780s u keep talking about beating 290x well yaaa i dont think so, 290x beats titan by a small margin and the 780 by atleast 10% so 780 would have to be clocked over a ghz to even start getting close, and when u do that the efficiency arguement about nvidia goes down the drain cuz 800mhz on 28nm seems to be a sweet spot for efficiency but when u go close to ghz poweruse scales higher
In other words your arguement is a bit inaccurate as amd can affort to sell 290x at 500$ while making way more profit than nvidia selling 780 at the same price. So to say amd is screwed or surprised is an overstatement
AMD was always best 4 price ...
World record on performance belongs now to AMD and not to 4-WAY SLI of Titan~.~
4000$ vs 2196$
But we are still waiting to Maxwell chips from nvidia .. i hope price will be fixed and not like always.
On-topic, their R9 290 better be competitive with the 780, that's all I gotta say. The price better be right or else demand won't be as high as AMD hopes for them to sell it at a premium when it launches.
My only thing to add is that these are geldings that didn't make the grade as Tesla products. So in that vein, can we say Nvidia doesn't exactly need to sell as normal, because they get 3x for one chip from the professional market. While if there's 30% geldings they can off-load those for a substantial discount. I see that as the saving grace for these Nvidia discrete gaming desktop market has them in. Also, why I don't believe we would see a full-GK110, for as you state the cost those they need to keep in the professional, unless even full-fledged GK110 are sorted by power usage and some don't make the grade for professional products.
AMD has Hawaii as a standalone market, at least I've heard nothing of them being for FirePro professional graphics offerings?
Even nVidia fans ridicule you... You're that bad.
@Eroticus: GTX TITAN can't 4-way SLi as far as I'm aware... But I get what you mean.
Which reminds me... anyone considered the sheer power a 4-way R9 290X Crossfire over Mantle would bring!?
www.legitreviews.com/geforce-gtx-680-4-way-sli-review-on-hardware-info_12692 - GTX680 4-way SLI
4-way SLI/Crossfire is nothing new to AMD nor nVidia.
Anyway, I must have mixed (deducted) the part where nVidia kept claiming that triple-SLi TITANs are faster than double GTX 690 (so quad/4x), with a 4x GTX TITAN configuration not being possible. And I'm well aware of 4x GPU configurations, SLi or CF, I was exclusively referring to TITANs in my original post.
Its funny and helerious seeing people getting upset bcoz AMD is squeezing more performance out of their cards LOL.
The 780ti is going to be a furnace, power hungry and expensive. The 780 and Titan is already hot and power hungry once they are overclocked. The Titan at default settings easily reaches 85c, and the noise/heat is not much different for the 290X vs the 680/titan/780
Nvidia deliberately slowing down games coz it slows down the radeons more
techreport.com/review/21404/crysis-2-tessellation-too-much-of-a-good-thing
AMD Alleges NVIDIA Cheats in HD HQV
www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8608
Futuremark confirms nVidia is cheating in benchmark
www.geek.com/games/futuremark-confirms-nvidia-is-cheating-in-benchmark-553361/
Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers
www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1048824/nvidia-cheats-3dmark-177-drivers
nVidia cheating with HAWX optimisations to fake benchmark figures
www.kitguru.net/forum/nvidia-drivers/4686-nvidia-cheating-hawx-optimisations-fake-benchmark-figures.html
The List is endless, and I just wanted to open your eyes to the fact Nvidia is no Angel and have a history of bad tactics.
Oh and remember this. see below.
www.joystiq.com/2006/02/09/nvidias-manchurian-fans-shill-for-gear/
consumerist.com/2006/02/06/did-nvidia-hire-online-actors-to-promote-their-products/
forum.xbitlabs.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9649
hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1668756
Again the list is endless.
As for the "cheating at benchmarks" thing, almost EVERYONE does it. Good reviews will test for this.Ah. It was early in the morning for me and I made the mistake of blindly trusting Firefox's built-in dictionary, a mistake I make all too often. Corrected.I'd imagine AMD would have to re-think how CrossFire works for Mantle. If I'm not mistaken, they had to work on implementation for both DirectX and OpenGL somewhat separately, or at the very least. I'm no Mantle engineer though.
AMD seems to have a few good things going for it in the near future. Should be interesting to see how this unfolds for both sides.