Tuesday, October 31st 2017

DOCSIS 3.1 Makes 10 Gbps Downstream & 1 Gbps Upstream Speeds a Reality

CableLabs, the leading innovation lab for the secure delivery of high speed data, video, voice and next generation services, today completed its Full Duplex DOCSIS 3.1 specification which significantly increases upstream capacity and enables symmetric multi-Gigabit services over existing hybrid fiber-coaxial (HFC) technology. Anticipating a change in user demand as emerging technologies require more bandwidth, CableLabs' Full Duplex DOCSIS technology will ensure that cable operators can be ready to meet future usage needs for technologies such as virtual and augmented reality. Full Duplex DOCSIS 3.1 technology builds on the successful completion of CableLabs' DOCSIS 3.1 specification, which made deployments of 10 Gbps downstream and 1 Gbps upstream broadband possible.

"In the United States, more than 90 percent of households are connected to an HFC network, and consumers typically have higher download speeds than upload speeds," said Phil McKinney, president and chief executive officer of CableLabs. "By enabling Full Duplex DOCSIS, the upstream and downstream traffic can flow at up to 10 Gigabits concurrently, doubling the efficiency of spectrum use."
In current DOCSIS networks, spectrum is typically split between the upstream and downstream, or spectrum is shared between upstream and downstream traffic. Full duplex communication enables upstream and downstream traffic to efficiently use the same spectrum simultaneously, which can be beneficial for residential and business services. For businesses in particular, symmetric services can vastly improve network efficiency, which can, in turn, improve the customer experience on business websites.

By leveraging the combination of DOCSIS 3.1 technology, passive HFC network characteristics, self interference cancellation technology and intelligent scheduling, CableLabs - along with the collaboration of its members and other industry partners - developed this solution enabling full duplex communications over the existing HFC network. The evolution also eliminates the need and cost of deploying fiber to the home while still maintaining backward compatibility with previous generations of DOCSIS technology.

The Full Duplex DOCSIS 3.1 specification effort was initially announced by CableLabs in February 2016. The update to DOCSIS 3.1 including the complete Full Duplex DOCSIS specification will be published on the CableLabs website later this month.
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39 Comments on DOCSIS 3.1 Makes 10 Gbps Downstream & 1 Gbps Upstream Speeds a Reality

#26
Durvelle27
ironcerealboxSpectrum is notorious for advertising their packages as "up to x/y DS/US, depending on availability of bandwidth in surrounding areas" - which, during the mornings and days, is great (people going to work, kids going to school, etc.) but during the evenings, it really slows down as everyone is getting online at home. I have had to adjust accordingly because of this. Sometimes, dual or triple 4K streams going on, downloads, and uploads of data to research servers is just fine late-at-night. During the evenings, forget it.

I'm sure Comcast is, probably, better in their infrastructure than Spectrum is in areas that used to be Time Warner Cable. I have heard Spectrum areas that were Charter have not noticed huge differences but for us former TWC customers, we are seeing huge changes.
The only problem i've foreseen is Comcast added a stupid 1TB Data Cap which they didn't have before

and i break it every month :laugh:
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#27
ironcerealbox
Durvelle27The only problem i've foreseen is Comcast added a stupid 1TB Data Cap which they didn't have before

and i break it every month :laugh:
We don't have one, yet. However, there is a growing rumor of a 600GB cap to be implemented soon (hopefully, IF TRUE, it is for the lowest tier package(s)). Man, I go through that in like 2 weeks! >_<

And, ja, I envy main-continent Europe, Japan, and Korea.
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#28
NTM2003
Cox has a 1.5tb data cap that should be enough for me to download a few games a month and stream 4K Movies and tv shows on Netflix. There over data charge is like $10 extra for 50gb extra of data so I should be ok
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#29
Durvelle27
NTM2003Cox has a 1.5tb data cap that should be enough for me to download a few games a month and stream 4K Movies and tv shows on Netflix. There over data charge is like $10 extra for 50gb extra of data so I should be ok
I rarely download games lately (PC Down) and mostly just stream

Yet I still break 1TB
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#30
NTM2003
I’m sure I will to but I ask them when they install next month. Hopefully the 960mbs will come to my area to cox does offer it but only in the cities
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#31
StatuNascendi
Durvelle27Man and i just bought my modem
If it is 3.1 cable modem, no need to worry. CableLabs Docsis specs are always very robust and look forward, but at the same time, backward compatibility is a very high priority. D2.0 cable modems are still deployed and used, well, at least in some environments and within certain speed/service limitation recommendation.
Worst case scenario, you will use just one OFDM block in upstream, so you won't be able to use more than 1Gbps in upload :D.

@Jism
It's not that simple. Different markets, different ISP cost/benefit strategy. Full duplex cable modem will cost them an arm and a leg, i guess they will be deployed for business costumer/services, prolly as a multihome/backup for HQ/branch on fiber.
Btw, OFDM block in 3.1 specs does not segregate geographically :toast:.

Also, 'hood' cabinet is a part of a long chain in HFC network, and it's not limiting factor per se, at least as long as level of network 'quality' is optimal.
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#32
StatuNascendi
ironcerealboxGood point! Thanks for reminding us or educating us on that topic. I'm somewhat knowledgeable with network infrastructures, protocols, and procedures but not nearly enough. I'm more on the CS and computer hardware side, along with maths.
I'm glad i can help, :lovetpu:. First time poster, long time lurker, maybe even for more than a decade :roll:.

Data caps, implemented on 'fixed' broadband, are HUGE BS. Even from ISP pow. Caps completely distort process of network growth guesstimate. It is clear indicator of who is running tech in that company :banghead:.
Even on WiFi/3G/4G caps somewhat 'works' just because margin of error for predicted network growth/behavior is obscured by large fluctuation in level of wireless network 'quality' :nutkick:.

Also, if all other types of online services (beside 4K stream) work well, it's throttling, either on ISP side trough badly implemented QOS and/or bad segmentation or on BGP/uplink towards streamer service source :kookoo:.

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#33
NTM2003
I kind of wish your wireless company’s offer home internet over hotspot from your phone for a good price a month but there so unreliable speeds because of heavy traffic the speeds start to slow down cable internet don’t do that. That I know of
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#34
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
NTM2003I kind of wish your wireless company’s offer home internet over hotspot from your phone for a good price a month but there so unreliable speeds because of heavy traffic the speeds start to slow down cable internet don’t do that. That I know of
It's just like wifi, there is only so much data you can cram through the air and you're sharing that with a lot of other people. Shielded copper cables though, that's a very different story, you're not sharing that bandwidth with nearly as many people and ISPs can divvy up networks to be small enough to be constrained by available frequencies. Huge benefit is that the infrastructure is already there.
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#35
lightofhonor
Durvelle27The only problem i've foreseen is Comcast added a stupid 1TB Data Cap which they didn't have before

and i break it every month :laugh:
Their 1gbps plan doesn't have a cap. :) Might be reason to upgrade.
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#36
Durvelle27
LightofhonorTheir 1gbps plan doesn't have a cap. :) Might be reason to upgrade.
But the price difference is to huge

$49.99 vs $300 a month
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#37
lightofhonor
Durvelle27But the price difference is to huge

$49.99 vs $300 a month
But what about the TIME savings? Those .1 sec faster YouTube videos really adds up :D
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#38
Durvelle27
LightofhonorBut what about the TIME savings? Those .1 sec faster YouTube videos really adds up :D
Man with my 200MBs plan nothing has to load. Everything just pops straight up as soon as you click on it
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#39
NTM2003
I haven’t got my 100mbs yet but i definitely know the difference from 2.5mbs DSL.
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