Thursday, January 25th 2018
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Smokes Core i5-8400 at iGPU Performance
AMD is pinning a lot of hopes on its upcoming Ryzen 2000G "Raven Ridge" desktop APU family, which combine a quad-core "Zen" CPU with a larger-than-expected integrated GPU based on the latest "Vega" architecture. While Intel's iGPU design focus for its "Coffee Lake-S" processors continues to be hardware-accelerated 4K video playback, and non-gaming tasks; AMD promises a more wholesome solution. The integrated Radeon Vega 11 graphics of the Ryzen 5 2400G features 11 "Vega" NGCUs (next-generation compute units), which translates to 704 stream processors, 44 TMUs (@ 4 TMUs per NGCU), 8 or 16 ROPs, and a bandwidth-rich pathway to the APU's dual-channel DDR4-2933 capable IMC, thanks to AMD's new Infinity Fabric interconnect.
In its pre-launch press-deck for the Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G, AMD did the obvious - comparing a similarly priced Intel Core i5-8400 six-core processor (MSRP: $189) with its faster Ryzen 5 2400G (MSRP: $169.99) at gaming, highlighting its products key promise - enabling 1080p gaming with many of the newer AAA titles. In AMD's testing, the Radeon Vega 11 iGPU keeps frame-rates well above 30 fps at 1080p. In key popular titles such as "Battlefield 1," the frame-rates cross 50 fps, titles like "Overwatch" and "Rocket League" are almost that fast. "Skyrim" approaches 96 fps, while "The Witcher 3" stays barely above 30 fps. The i5-8400 with its UHD 620 graphics barely touches the 30 fps mark in any of the games, at 1080p. Even taking into account AMD's marketing hyperbole, the Radeon Vega 11 seems capable of running most eSports titles at resolutions above 1600 x 900, which should particularly interest iCafes and gamers on a shoestring budget.
Source:
TechSpot
In its pre-launch press-deck for the Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G, AMD did the obvious - comparing a similarly priced Intel Core i5-8400 six-core processor (MSRP: $189) with its faster Ryzen 5 2400G (MSRP: $169.99) at gaming, highlighting its products key promise - enabling 1080p gaming with many of the newer AAA titles. In AMD's testing, the Radeon Vega 11 iGPU keeps frame-rates well above 30 fps at 1080p. In key popular titles such as "Battlefield 1," the frame-rates cross 50 fps, titles like "Overwatch" and "Rocket League" are almost that fast. "Skyrim" approaches 96 fps, while "The Witcher 3" stays barely above 30 fps. The i5-8400 with its UHD 620 graphics barely touches the 30 fps mark in any of the games, at 1080p. Even taking into account AMD's marketing hyperbole, the Radeon Vega 11 seems capable of running most eSports titles at resolutions above 1600 x 900, which should particularly interest iCafes and gamers on a shoestring budget.
58 Comments on AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Smokes Core i5-8400 at iGPU Performance
Ain't saying 10000 forums complaining about it but more is always better.
Ain't changing my 2666 memory until ddr5, no speed requirement :)
4000 MHz might get close, as that would supply similar bandwidth to the 512 core 7750 GPU, and VEGA is more bandwidth efficient then GCN 1.0. But it still has to feed the system itself, so it may take more then that.
EDIT: I'm wrong, that still would not be enough. The 7750, a 512 core GPU, had 72GB of dedicated bandwidth. DDR4 memory, in dual channel, at 4266 MHz, would supply 71.2 GB/s, and that would also have to feed the system and a 704 core GPU. If VEGA scales with memory the same way as GCN, it is likely that the limit on performance will be whatever the memory controller can bear, with RAM speed never becoming the limting factor, rather it being how fast the controller will support.
Raven ridge really will need either more on board cache (like the 128MB L4 on crystal well which allowed intel's 580 GPU to move past memory bottlenecks) or a triple or quad channel memory controller, especially if the iGPU grows more with the second generation.
For CPU only, sub 3000 is just fine. But for iGPU usage, you need as much absolute bandwidth as you can get.
To do so you can put in more pins for cpu and different socket and then it's dead in the water.
or a apu with memory onboard which we may see After 2020 but for now lets be satisfied with something decent, you can always OC this one :)
Try again?
Well you look at that. Locked. Only 6 threads. Comes from evil empire Intel. But still beats out majority of CPUs out there.
But is the higher priced 8400 beating 2400G whiteout discreet graphic?
Infinity Fabric is connecting CCX, ram controller, GPU and IO like PCIe 3.0, Infinity Fabric is an intelligent internal buss so the setup time may be slightly longer, but still more effective.
There is no buss whit zero delay, not even Intel's on die ring-bus for what the delay increases with increased cores or there later mesh that is addressing that problem to some parts..Don't hold your breath for it, I still miss Ryzen 7 2x00G in the lineup.
Has heard about the AMD ‘Fenghuang APU’, maybe that one you are thinking about :D